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Originally posted by Vedderman
I work in the control room of the local news station. For those of you unfamiliar with local news and how it works, the producer(s) is the one who decides mostly what to put on air during 'their' block of a newscast. During one of our newscasts, we ran an affiliated package sent down by ABC. During the story, we (our station) labelled the man as "white." Naturally, all of us - with the exception of the producer who knew about this already - made comments about how he was obviously not white. The producer, defending why she chose to have the anchors read that he was white, told us that ABC, when sending our station the edited package and information, explicitly instructed that he be described as white. Hope that's not confusing! Basically, ABC specifically instructed our station (and probably every other station who received that story from their ABC affiliate) to describe him as white. So, from my experience, describing this man as white was without a shadow of a doubt absolutely intentional.
Let me get this straight.
A Hispanic man shot an unarmed black kid who was walking home.
And the debate is whether or not hispanics are causasians?
What I see, is that an innocent 17 year old is dead and that in the very least the officers involved failed miserably at their job. I see people angry and asking questions which to me is legitimate and I feel the same way. Some people justifiably feel it is about race...time will tell on that. Some people are determined it is about race but it isn't just black people or "white guilt", there are white racists screaming how race is always an issue when it's a "white on black" crime and there are black racists screaming how every "white on black" crime is racist.
The ONLY thing that matters to the majority of people is that justice be served and that we as Americans never let it be okay for a child to be gunned down in the street for wearing a hoodie and carrying candy and iced tea.
People whining about the race card are perpetuating this as a race issue as much as anyone else. Personally, I do feel like it was probably racially motivated in more ways than one, and it doesn't matter if Zimmerman is white or hispanic. Hate crimes still happen and a lot of people from every skin color are totally in denial about it, unless/until it happens to one of "their own".
NOT when their trying to get food stamps and medical assistance. They make it very clear they are hispanic.
Originally posted by satron
A lot of Hispanics do identify themselves as Caucasian. Just saying.
I agree. Now if you could point this fact out to all the people who consider themselves black, who want the head of this so called “white” guy, I think people will calm down. Again, I agree with what you’re saying, but most of our society doesn’t. It’s that preverbal black and white thinking. (Excuse the pun)...
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
They don't "identify" themselves as Caucasian...they are Caucasian.
Hispanic is not a race...it's an ethnicity.
I don't expect most people here to comprehend this.
Huh???
So if you are a dark skinned Hispanic, you are automatically Caucasian? Help me understand.
Nope.
There are black hispanics, white hispanics, "native american" hispanics....there can even be asian hispanics.
It's an ethnicity....not a race.
Like I said...I don't expect people to comprehend.
"The GUY on the bottom, who had a red sweater on, was yelling to me, 'Help! Help!' and I told him to stop, and I was calling 911," said the witness, who asked to be identified only by his first name, John.
John said he locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
"And then, when I got upstairs and looked down, the GUY who was on the top beating up the other GUY, was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point."
Originally posted by AGWskeptic
Let me get this straight.
A Hispanic man shot an unarmed black kid who was walking home.
And the debate is whether or not hispanics are causasians?
A United States Department of Justice report which surveyed homicide statistics between 1974 and 2004 stated that of the crimes surveyed, 52.2% of the offenders were Black, 45.8% were White, and 2% were Other Races. Of the victims in those same crimes, 50.9% were White, 46.9% were Black, and 2.1% were Other Races. The report further stated that "most murders are intraracial" with 86% of White murders committed by Whites, and 94% of Black murders committed by Blacks.
Some studies had argued for smaller racial disparities in violent crime in recent times. However, a 2011 study which examined the racial disparities in violent crime and incarceration from 1980 and 2008 found little difference for black share of violent offending. Racial imbalances in arrests vs. incarcerations were both small and consistent across the time period. The authors argued that the prior studies had been confounded by not separating Hispanics from Whites. The number of Hispanic offenders has been increasing rapidly and have violence rates higher than that of Whites but lower than that of Blacks
Originally posted by PaxVeritas
Since this is going to be pinned on "white people" I wanna list some concerns:
1) It's known that Zimmerman was PERUVIAN, at least from his mother.
2) I have almost NEVER seen a "white man" look like Zimmerman. Very Peruvian features which are INDIOS-INDIAN-INDIGENOUS.
3) The media LOVES to garner headlines of "white men" doing crimes against black people.
4) Race crimes against Whites go under reported, because it doesn't spark outrage at the same level. (Good thing or bad thing?...your call)
5) All the facts aren't out on what exactly happened.
Before race pimps like Al Sharpton and others turn this into a full blown race war, I think people should settle the hell down.
edit on 23-3-2012 by PaxVeritas because: (no reason given)
Sensationalized now by:
Our favorite media outlets "white man slays a young black boy"
POTUS "if I had a son he'd look like Trayvon"
Jesse Jackson "blacks are under attack"
Al Sharpton - holds justice rally and says "Trayvon represents a reckless disregard for our lives."
Louis Farrakhan "soon and very soon the law of retaliation may very well be applied".
Miami Heat - wearing hoodies in support
The New Black Panther Party handing out posters "George Zimmerman Wanted dead or alive"
Twitter - thousands of tweets showing the Zimmerman's home address and saying "get him" "he's gonna have a long night" among other less pleasant comments.