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Originally posted by Namaste1001
Analysis of the Human Birdwingsedit on 21-3-2012 by Namaste1001 because: wRONG LINK, FIXED
For me, it was the part where he stretched out his legs behind him while dangling from his upper back. Not only would he have to be an Olympic gymnast to do that, but anyone who's ever calculated the weight and balance on a real aircraft knows that would have caused a sudden pitch up and a stall.
Originally posted by yampa
A test for whether this is fake is going to be if he makes a new video. If the look on his face after landing is authentic emotion, then it won't be long until he makes a new video. I'm not the best judge of faces, but he doesn't look like a faker to me?
The date of this video is the 19th March - if nothing new shows up within a few weeks, it's fake?
Lots of good quality scepticism in this thread, and lots of good counter evidence using ornithopters etc.
I don't think flight is properly understood by science. The models are nowhere near complete. Physicists will admit this to you.
I point to this video from New Scientist on January 2012 as evidence. This article basically tells you the thing we've been told about air pressure differentials causing lift is false. And they've been using that explanation for two hundred years. Oops.
Good thread! Stars and flagged.edit on 21-3-2012 by yampa because: (no reason given)
but look at 0:38! No one can do that!
Originally posted by Arkady
I imagine everyone who was defending this feels pretty stupid right now.
Originally posted by TheBandit795
Gizmodo has interviewed employees of a CGI company who are all of the opinion that it's fake.
Employee 2 (also a pilot) "the camera seems very strange. I know that when I am flying in an airplane, I don't look straight ahead all of the time. Also, the only way people have been able to propel themselves above the ground have been by bicycle arrangements to power a fixed-wing aircraft. A human powered helicopter managed 10 seconds of flight about 5 inches above the ground. The legs are much more powerful than the arms."
Employee 3: "I agree, I saw that earlier today. I can't spot any glaring visual problems, but the physics just don't add up."
Employee 5: "check out this video
and some others....
he is talking about the motors that assist his flying, so he isn't flapping all by himself.
if its a hoax, it's an elaborate hoax, because he has been trying t build up trust for months before hand."
Originally posted by Arkady
Yampa you're totally missing the point, this has been proven beyond any doubt whatsoever to be fake in several different ways already. Try reading just the few posts before yours.There's nothing left to debate - it's a hoax. What a joke this forum is sometimes.
"Martin even produced a smoking gun:
Okay Sam, They wouldn't let this go without getting to the bottom of it. We've got proof it's faked.
The proof comes from one of their other videos and the guys here are genuinely impressed that it's taken so long even for us to determine the truth.
These guys are fooling everyone.
At 1:45, you can see a little black square on the fabric
Now, without cutting, the camera pans down and then back up again. When the camera pans up, the wing is cg. You can tell because the model they used didn't have perfect textures.
It's a pretty good fake, but it is absolutely fake."