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Why obama's association with Derrick Bell Matters

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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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White people: You think obama cares about you at all? Everything is showing how he ONLY cares for people of color. It is getting harder and harder for both him and his wife to hide their racism, and their desire to divide this country on ravial lines.


From www.breitbart.com...


"The Obama-Bell connection is the latest in a pattern of Barack Obama’s associations with individuals who promoted a racially divisive America. Instead, Professor Derrick Bell’s racial world view is now manifesting in the policies of the Obama administration, particularly in Eric Holder’s Justice Department. That’s why Obama’s radical associations in the past matter.

That’s also why Senator Obama’s appearance with New Black Panther Party President, Malik Zulu Shabazz in Selma, Alabama, matters. I detail the 2007 Selma event and photographs with Obama and Shabazz in my book, Injustice."


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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:17 AM
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I think "cares for" may have been a little too mild. Angry people like this "care for" very few, even their own. Whatever his agenda is for black people, it is obvious and it ain't pretty.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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And here's a bit more from: www.therightscoop.com...

"Contrary to those who might praise Derrick Bell, America is the worse off because of his ideas.

Bell did more than advocate for race-based hiring. He was perhaps the worst Johnny Appleseed of a nasty racialist legal theory called Critical Race Theory. Critical Race Theory, in a nutshell, argues that the law is a weapon of the majority whites to oppress “people of color.” It argues for “structural racism”–the idea that American institutions are aligned against blacks, whether the oppressor is the criminal justice system, a cabdriver without a fare, businesses, government, Domino’s Pizza, banks, or the police.

Critical Race Theory does not view the law as applying equally to all Americans, but advocates for racially unfair implementation of the law to right past injustice.
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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Bell was clearly a radical and that was the motivation to conceal information regarding the connection.

Ogletree said it best when they hid the video in 2008. Ogletree was a professor to Barack and Michelle during their harvard years. He was also a black Panther and was the legal council for the new black panthers in the voter intimidation case against them. The case that was dismissed. Above all Ogletree was Obama's Debate coach during the 2008 campaign. He was directly connected to the campaign and Obama therefore he had a vested interest in concealing the video.

More on Ogletree

www.foxnews.com...


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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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This is naive nonsense. I come from the days when there was no diversity -- if people like Bell had not come forward - there would still not be diversity.

Now I know that the reason that you are bring this up is because you believe that diversity is a bad thing. There are many many more who see your attitude as rather archaic and cannot be gone soon enough.

Do you think that if you have dark skin you can't eat at a whites only restaurant? Is that the society you want to bring kids into, really?


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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Critical race theory does not even come close to the concept of diversity.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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I wasn't expecting Obama's "paling around with terrorists" meme to start so early.

Oh well, I guess Hannity is hard at work

Incidentally, I fully support the "don't vote for obama, because he knew some radicals when he was younger" push. It worked brilliantly in 2008.


and lemme guess, Rush Lamebaugh did a report on this chap today...(I noticed that basically every single thing Rush discusses ends up on ATS, either as a thread, or as a almost word for word comment within a thread...sad really..they rarely use their own words)



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by spyder550
This is naive nonsense. I come from the days when there was no diversity -- if people like Bell had not come forward - there would still not be diversity.

Now I know that the reason that you are bring this up is because you believe that diversity is a bad thing. There are many many more who see your attitude as rather archaic and cannot be gone soon enough.

Do you think that if you have dark skin you can't eat at a whites only restaurant? Is that the society you want to bring kids into, really?


Dont put words in my mouth, I believe no such thing. Did you read it all? Critical Race Theory says that blacks should be ELEVATED above whites, whether qualified or not in a particular field, to make up for past injustices. What is so "equal" about that?

I have fought for the rights of blacks in my younger days. I saw some of the injustices, and I did not agree with them. But by the same token, I do not believe that WHITES should NOW be just as unfairly treated.

Anyone who feels otherwise, is a racist. Anyone who thinks that whites OWE blacks anything for what happened over 100 years ago, is not living in reality. Whites and blacks should have equal rights, etc, not one more than the other, no matter how that pendelum swings.

Bell is a left over angry black man, who just can't see that its over. Let it go, stop trying to paly the race card over everything.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Its not just Rush.
Its everywhere today and its fantastic!. I see the same defense touted around Media Matters touted around here on ATS. I always visit Media Matters before I log in on ATS. Gotta know what to expect.

Keep your chin up there is more to come. Personally I think the Information on Ogletree and his connections to Obama and the 2008 campaign are more interesting than Derrick Bell who is cut from the same cloth as Rev. Wright. Guilt by association?? I would not think of it
Just another coincidence. No pattern of behavior or relationships whatsoever.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Oh, I fully support this
Hell, bring back Rev Write as a main theme for the 2012 election cycle, and toss in Bill Ayers again. Awesome tactics



The argument: "Obama is a radical socialist kenyan racist...don't vote for him or the red army will come and steal all your children or whatever and hang a star and crescent moon flag above the white house"

The counter: "erm..dude, he has been in office 4 years and is unremarkably non-radical."

The counter-counter: "Why you be hatin america! Vote for Thurstin Howell III..erm, I mean Romney!"

mhmm...no doubt it will work this time..it has to..surely...



(welcome back democratic super-majority btw..I wonder if Pelosi will be speaker again, or if they will get a new face up)



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


Its not just Rush.
Its everywhere today and its fantastic!. I see the same defense touted around Media Matters touted around here on ATS. I always visit Media Matters before I log in on ATS. Gotta know what to expect.

Keep your chin up there is more to come. Personally I think the Information on Ogletree and his connections to Obama and the 2008 campaign are more interesting than Derrick Bell who is cut from the same cloth as Rev. Wright. Guilt by association?? I would not think of it
Just another coincidence. No pattern of behavior or relationships whatsoever.


thats funny... (your obvious sarcasm) loving it---LOL



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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In the 1980's Obama was a strong supporter of his radical associates namely Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Derrick Bell. The question is, is Obama still a strong supporter of the views of these men?

For political purposes he has distanced himself from them, and perhaps he still believes in these controversial views, but it is possible Obama has evolved from these views, only he knows for sure, but his actions can reveal if he does or not.

I would expect Obama's distancing from Bell will be similar to his distancing from Wright, except in a toned down way because Bell is dead. The very strong support of a person contrasted with strong distancing. This is what happened to Wright. Because Bell is dead it is possible Obama may simply choose to remain quiet on the issue.



Barack Obama first met Wright in the late 1980s, while he was working as a community organizer in Chicago before attending Harvard Law School.

Wright officiated at the wedding ceremony of Barack and Michelle Obama, as well as their children's baptisms.

The title of Obama's 2006 memoir, The Audacity of Hope, was inspired by one of Wright's sermons, which was also a theme of Obama's 2004 keynote address to the Democratic National Convention.

Wright was scheduled to give the public invocation before Obama's presidential announcement, but Obama withdrew the invitation the night before the event.

Wright wrote a rebuttal letter to the editor disputing the characterization of the account as reported in an article in The New York Times.

In 2007, Wright was appointed to Barack Obama's African American Religious Leadership Committee, a group of over 170 national black religious leaders who supported Obama's bid for the Democratic nomination. However, it was announced in March 2008 that Wright was no longer serving as a member of this group.

On May 31, 2008, Barack and Michelle Obama announced that they had withdrawn their membership in Trinity United Church of Christ stating that "Our relations with Trinity have been strained by the divisive statements of Reverend Wright, which sharply conflict with our own views".


Wright was a good friend of Bell, they both shared similar views, as for you Bell experts, feel free to fill us in on his radical theories.

This much can be said concerning Obama's college years, if he simply released some information on his college years there wouldn't be so much speculation about it, unless he had something to hide.
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Thank you for attempting to get people to understand why it matters. An email floating around reflects how voters determined other issues didn't matter, but when you add them all together you know we screwed up.




WHEN - he refused to disclose who donated money to his election campaign, as other candidates had done, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he received endorsements from people like Louis Farrakhan, Mur! Amar Kaddafi and Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - it was pointed out that he was a total newcomer and had absolutely no experience at anything except community organizing, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he chose friends and acquaintances such as Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn who were revolutionary radicals, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - his voting record in the Illinois Senate and in the U.S. Senate came into question, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he refused to wear a flag lapel pin and did so only after a public outcry, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - people started treating him as a Messiah and children in schools were taught to sing his praises, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he stood with his hands over his groin area for the playing of the National Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he surrounded himself in the White House with advisors who were pro-gun control, pro-abortion and wanting to curtail freedom of speech to silence the opposition, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he said he favors sex education in kindergarten, including homosexual indoctrination, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - his personal background was either scrubbed or hidden and nothing could be found about him, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - the place of his birth was called into question, and he refused to produce a real birth certificate, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he had an association in Chicago with Tony Rezco - a man of questionable character and who is now in prison and had helped Obama to a sweet deal on the purchase of his home - people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - it became known that George Soros, a multi-billionaire Marxist, spent a ton of money to get him elected, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he started appointing White House Czars that were radicals, revolutionaries, and even avowed Marxist /Communists, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he stood before the Nation and told us that his intentions were to "fundamentally transform this Nation" into something else, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - it became known that he had trained ACORN workers in Chicago and served as an attorney for ACORN, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed cabinet members and several advisors who were tax cheats and socialists, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed a Science Czar, John Holdren, who believes in forced abortions, mass sterilizations and seizing babies from teen mothers, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed Cass Sunstein as Regulatory Czar who believes in "Explicit Consent," harvesting human organs without family consent and allowing animals to be represented in court, while banning all hunting, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed Kevin Jennings, a homosexual and organizer of a group called Gay, Lesbian, Straight, Education Network as Safe School Czar and it became known that he had a history of bad advice to teenagers, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed Mark Lloyd as Diversity Czar who believes in curtailing free speech, taking from one and giving to another to spread the wealth, who supports Hugo Chavez, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - Valerie Jarrett, an avowed Socialist, was selected as Obama's Senior White House Advisor, people said it didn't matter,

WHEN - Anita Dunn, White House Communications Director, said Mao Tse Tung was her favorite philosopher and the person she turned to most for inspiration, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed Carol Browner, a well known socialist as Global Warming Czar working on Cap and Trade as the nation's largest tax, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he appointed Van Jones, an ex-con and avowed Communist as Green Energy Czar, who since had to resign when this was made known, people said it didn't matter. (Valerie Jarrett is a long time promoter of Van Jones).

WHEN - Tom Daschle, Obama's pick for Health and Human Services Secretary could not be confirmed because he was a tax cheat, people said it didn't matter. WHEN - as President of the United States , he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia , people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he traveled around the world criticizing America and never once talking of her greatness, people said it didn't matter.

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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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WHEN - his actions concerning the Middle East seemed to support the Palestinians over Israel , our long time ally, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he took American tax dollars to resettle thousands of Palestinians from Gaza to the United States , people! said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he upset the Europeans by removing plans for a missile defense system against the Russians, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he started spending us into a debt that was so big we could not pay it off, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he took a huge spending bill under the guise of stimulus and used it to pay off organizations, unions, and individuals that got him elected, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he took over insurance companies, car companies, banks, etc., people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he took away student loans from the banks and put it through the government, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and 'stating' that he was raised a Muslim, was educated as a Muslim, and is still a Muslim, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.



I hope people will open-mindly consider what you have to say, because, yeah, it matters
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Obama is a radical socialist kenyan racist


You forgot to add marxist radical revolutionary muslim!



It's funny though....i don't know how many times that I've read that Obama is bought off by Israel and that he's also anti-Israel.

Make up your mind folks!
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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by spyder550
This is naive nonsense. I come from the days when there was no diversity -- if people like Bell had not come forward - there would still not be diversity.

Now I know that the reason that you are bring this up is because you believe that diversity is a bad thing. There are many many more who see your attitude as rather archaic and cannot be gone soon enough.

Do you think that if you have dark skin you can't eat at a whites only restaurant? Is that the society you want to bring kids into, really?


I watched the video of Bell lecturing to a classroom of black students. Watch it. He fans flames of racial division by stating that whites have a sense of entitlement and sees no potential for this to ever change. And that was only one of his talking points. I watched his lecture and thought, "Wow, blacks are going to see me (and all other palefaces) as evil for the rest of my life."

He is no Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Thank you for attempting to get people to understand why it matters. An email floating around reflects how voters determined other issues didn't matter, but when you add them all together you know we screwed up.


Sadly there are too many out there who have already downed the Kool-Aid.

I am convinced a large portion of the population would shrug off seeing Obama in the rose garden, thirteen year old hooker on one arm, naked as a j-bird, bottle of jack in the other standing with Joe Stalin himself…

It’s scary the irrational disregard/lack of conceren for his past associates and statements/actions. I think he said something to the effect that you can judge a man by those with whom he associates.

With associates and friends like this in his past he wouldn’t pass the screening for a military security clearance – yet he is now by vote the most powerful man on earth.

No one vetted this guy – why?

I am afraid.



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Why Obama's association with Derrick Bell matters????


Because Conservatives have nothing else on Obama.

The economy is recovering, unemployment is coming down, housing market is recovering, the DOW is doing very well, his foreign policy accomplishments have been outstanding, he has lowered taxes on people, and people are starting to see the benefits of the healthcare bill.


So all that is left is to go back to calling him a "radical". We already have people in this thread spreading ignorant chain mails claiming he is everything from a "radical black theology christian" to a "muslim"....yes...they actually think he is both



So this is the latest tactic...a bunch of white men are going to call a civil rights icon racist and say Obama hugged him.....good luck with that



posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:42 PM
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He is no Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.


Martin Luther King believed in economic justice and guaranteed income. Did you know that?





The great Martin Luther King, Jr. had a plan to eliminate poverty in America. In fact, it was the topic of his last public speech (see link below.)

I'm talking about Guaranteed Income and I think we, as a nation, need to look at it as a real solution for our future. As my frustration with our current administration grows, I have directed my energy toward finding solutions to the problems so many Americans face today.

I think the quickest and easiest way to make a positive impact in the common people's lives is to institute a guaranteed income for all.

What is a guaranteed income?

The concept of a guaranteed income would essentially mean regular monthly payments, paid by the government, to every American as a minimum level of comfort and security. This amount would be in addition to whatever one is currently earning and should be a fully livable wage for those who are unable to work.Creating a merchant association that benefits by agreeing to standard pricing would also be advisable to avoid inflation.

www.gwennethmorgan.com...




WASHINGTON — Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had another dream: the guaranteed income.

Those careful about his legacy say the $120 million monument to him that's finally nearing construction on the National Mall is all well and good. But as the nation commemorates King's 81st birthday today, they say he should best be remembered for his career-long focus on the poor.

A year before his 1968 death in Memphis, in his "Where Do We Go From Here: Chaos or Community," King wrote: "I am now convinced that the simplest solution to poverty is to abolish it directly by a now widely discussed measure: the guaranteed income." The idea was to guarantee that no one lived in poverty by having the government provide a financial floor, pegged to median -- not low -- incomes, beneath which no one could fall. King talked about the psychological benefits of a widespread sense of "economic security." Economists John Kenneth Galbraith, Paul Samuelson and Milton Friedman endorsed the idea of guaranteed incomes, as did Lyndon Johnson's Labor Secretary and later New York Sen. Daniel P. Moynihan. Advocating the proposal was the official debate resolution for public high schools in 1973. It was a mainstream idea that has since faded from view.


www.commercialappeal.com...
MLK must have been another marxist!!! Have we seen ever seen his birth certificate? Inquiring minds want to know!

/end sarcasm





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posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady



WHEN - he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and 'stating' that he was raised a Muslim, was educated as a Muslim, and is still a Muslim, people said it didn't matter.

WHEN - he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.



I hope people will open-mindly consider what you have to say, because, yeah, it matters
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I really did try to zoom past your list..unfortunately my mouse reached the limit and I had to lift to zoom more.
and sadly, I speed read your last 3 things in your chain email you posted

I hate it when that happens, because my obsessive compulsive response for pushing truth behind the flat out nonsense of these granny chain letters overrides.

so there..only the last 3..only because I am refusing on principle to read the rest..


lets start from the bottom up (cause thats how I read it..I read weird, what can I say).
===WHEN - he set into motion a plan to take over the control of all energy in the United States through Cap and Trade, people said it didn't matter.===

The facts:
President Reagan also signed the Montreal Protocol in 1987 to slash the production and use of chemicals that deplete the upper ozone layer essential to screen out cancer-causing ultraviolet rays. His administration established a cap-and-trade system to implement the chemical reductions the protocol required. A 2006 scientific assessment concluded that “the Montreal Protocol is working” to reduce chemicals and protect the ozone layer.

President George H.W. Bush, Reagan’s successor, was the first president to propose the employment of a cap-and-trade system in an environmental law. The Clean Air Act of 1990 includes his proposed cap-and-trade system to reduce the sulfur pollution from power plants responsible for acid rain.

Conclusion: Idiotic statement from the list..unless Obama is in fact Zombie Reagan and GHWB..in which case..braaainz
I would also take the time to show near unanimous support by the republicans for cap/trade as it was a nice market way of solving the emmissions issue.

Next pile of dooky:
WHEN - he claimed he was a Christian during the election and tapes were later made public that showed Obama speaking to a Muslim group and 'stating' that he was raised a Muslim, was educated as a Muslim, and is still a Muslim, people said it didn't matter.

Totally out of context
He was raised in a muslim country for awhile, and was indeed educated in a madrassa..aka, educated as a muslim.
it DOESNT matter. you know what...even though he is demonstratably a christian...so what if he was a muslim? or a jew, or atheist. simple fact is, there will one day be a overt muslim president...its part of why us atheists are expressing the need for seperation of church and state...just because your religion is currently in power in a republic doesn't mean it always be.
I would go on about how the quote is out of context, but again, the greater point is..so what?

Final pile of steaming santorum:
WHEN - he designed plans to take over the health care system and put it under government control, people said it didn't matter.

What...so Obama made medicare?
the current Obamacare is mandated insurance...you don't buy the insurance from the government, you don't go to a government hospital, etc.
You will find there was far more support for the single payer system/actual control that didn't pass..
anyhow, point is, the health care system is -not- under government control...thats simply a flat out lie.

I couldn't read the rest..those three were enough to realize the list is basically a list of complete nonsense. You can of course fill your mind full of fantasy..I live on earth, so want to keep my info relevant to reality verses ideological bull--it you types enjoy so much.



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