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Occupy Teams Up With Nation of Islam?

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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Lets not forget, Accorns new organization
was paying homeless and other people
to go out and protest. This spring they are
trying to get everyone on board to push their agenda.
The nation of Islam just another notch in the bed post.

The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.
Accorn hires homeless and others to go to protest




posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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Do not make assumptions about me. I don't follow anyone blindly, ever...and you should not assume so about others either. I supported Obama once too, no longer. I know you think you are being kind to me and I appreciate that but you actually are making me out to be some kind of victim of Occupy propaganda. I'm not. I will continue to support Occupy until I see a reason not to, those reasons would not include paranoid delusions. And I will always support the initiative to not lay down like a dog, whether it bears the name Occupy or another name.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Do not make assumptions about me. I don't follow anyone blindly, ever...and you should not assume so about others either. I supported Obama once too, no longer. I know you think you are being kind to me and I appreciate that but you actually are making me out to be some kind of victim of Occupy propaganda. I'm not. I will continue to support Occupy until I see a reason not to, those reasons would not include paranoid delusions. And I will always support the initiative to not lay down like a dog, whether it bears the name Occupy or another name.


I’m not making assumptions. We’ve talked about it many times and you’ve explained to me (clearly) where you stand on many issues; we agree on a lot of those issues. We differ on our view about what OWS really is and really stands for….

I know you’re not a victim! You’re too vocal to be a victim!



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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I don't have much time to read through this entire thread, but did anyone mention the fact that the event was held at an Islamic center but Islam was not the focus of the event?

It seems to me that the local "church" decided to get involved with the community around them and join the Occupy4Jobs people to voice their opinions on jobs and such.

Is this any different than a community meeting at the local baptist church in any of your local areas?

Some of you must be sitting naked at your computer desk gettin' jiggy with yourselves over this article!


You managed to get a piece with Occupy and them crazy Islamic folks all in one shot!

Someday when you decide to turn the PC off, you will go outside and meet your Muslim neighbors...or maybe even stop by the local Islamic center! Around here they make great snacks!

Don't be scared..they wont bite.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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Well, I respectfully leave your thread. The circular logic some here are displaying always makes me lose my cool and I get in trouble. I doubt we'll ever see eye to eye on Occupy but you're always kind to me. Enjoy your thread. The rest of you enjoy your circl...er posting.




posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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my reasons not to support Occupy:::

Undefined leadership::;its running blind or so it seems
finance untraceable:::: links to Illuminati Money George Soros Big Unions yet denies Big business
a THEN WHAT movement:::: empty on the other end on appearance with social agenda

The Band Wagon is painted in Jaded reds whites and blues but its socialist red beneath
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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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i get the feeling left is right, right is left, occupy is communist,capitalist, and everything in between . The bankers are capitalists,socialists,communists and every other ist.

I have a feeling they all work for the NWO but Farrakhan surprises me.

he would have been the last person I would have thought to join in on this.

Maybe its true. Maybe they all work for the NWO and this is nothing more than a drama for the masses before the final switch.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
I don't have much time to read through this entire thread.
Is this any different than a community meeting at the local baptist church in any of your local areas?



Yes huge difference, our community meetings are held at town hall.
This was not a community meeting. This was the orginizers of Occ-you-pies
welcoming party, having the American hating orginization The Nation of Islam join to support the group.
They were not sitting around sipping tea.The Nation of Islam's leader Farrakhan
is known to be a holocaust denier teach holocaust denial to the people.
They are strategizing their efforts for when the occ-you-pie comes out this spring,
where the protests will happen, what they will do, they are hyping up the base right now.
This ain't grannies church service..







You managed to get a piece with Occupy and them crazy Islamic folks all in one shot!

Someday when you decide to turn the PC off, you will go outside and meet your Muslim neighbors...or maybe even stop by the local Islamic center! Around here they make great snacks!

Don't be scared..they wont bite


The truth can not be hidden. The Nation of Islam is known to hate America and Jews.
We already knew this was going on. This is for the people who
who need proof, well here is your sign. Occupy orginizers are getting
down and dirty with more hate groups. The occupy movement is more
then just some protest, they would like to overturn the government
and capitalism. I am not worried about islamic terrorist biting me,
more like a bomb strapped to their chest is the concern..


Around here they make great snacks!



My mother in law makes good snacks too who cares
about snacks? Thread de-railing at best..

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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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The Occupy movement has always been leftist from the start. People can try to deny it all they want, or just overlook it. All the Socialist Workers World Party and CPUSA and so on were all supporting it and marching with them. The Unions too.

They attacked Capitalism in so many ways, from signs to statements at the mic and so on. Adbusters is anti-corporation as well. Ruckus Society receives funds from Soros. It is so simple. All one has to do is read the list of demands to know they are pushing socialism and statism. All the references to "direct democracy" was to attack the Republic.
Then supporters here were talking about nationalizing the Fed.

I'm pretty sure even those people carrying that big sign for socialism don't know what they are doing.
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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I'm pretty sure even those people carrying that big sign for socialism don't know what they are doing..


They never lived under a socialist regime
or communist regime. It did not end well
for Russia, China, and Germany those
are just the main ones..

Some of those people do know what they are
doing.. Some of them don't, they are being led
by these morons. Their sheeple.. The ones that
do not know what they are doing are being led
to the slaughter.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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Occupy is, and always was, a front for the totalitarian banking/global consolidation crew. A bunch of useful idiots who think they are intelligent and brave. Just more sheep for the slaughter.
Even if Occupy was serious, there's never been any "people's movement" in all of human history that didn't end in massive bloodshed, mostly against the common man. I hate the banks as much as anyone, but I'll take the current system over anything Occupy stands for any day of the week.
They are extremely anti-American even in their most benign light. Bunch of weak minded, spineless, slogan chanting, entitled weaklings. Please go away and stay away.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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Yes huge difference, our community meetings are held at town hall.


Your local community may have meetings at town hall, but in larger areas it is commonplace for certain communities to hold meeting at a church.



This was not a community meeting. This was the orginizers of Occ-you-pies welcoming party, having the American hating orginization The Nation of Islam join to support the group.


This is a half-truth.

This WAS a community meeting to address the closing of the local post office, and their concern that it may have been racially motivated. Occupy4jobs would obviously be concerned with something like that. As well, the Nation of Islam would have concern with the racial aspect.

I agree that the rants against capitalism was uncalled for and I do not agree necessarily with that.



They were not sitting around sipping tea.The Nation of Islam's leader Farrakhan is known to be a holocaust denier teach holocaust denial to the people.


I know two people that are members of the nation of Islam. They actively work to improve relations with blacks, Muslims and other people within the community. They are not violent nor racist. Generalizing the entire movement because of a few bad eggs is not a good way of looking at this.

For example, if we use your way of thinking...the tea party must be a bunch of racist hateful bigots just because David Duke (kkk) was allowed to speak and endorse the TP. It is guilt by association, is it not? That's what you are doing here.

Other than a dumb rant about capitalism, I see no need for concern. They are trying to address a local labor issue as far as we know.

So according to you, the following picture would be representative of the TP right?

Be careful what standards you set for other people....you may be held to that standard yourself!



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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Oh I totally agree. I think many young people are being lied to, that Capitalism is some horrid thing and that socialism is the antidote, if only us dumb bourgeoisie would listen.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Sheepslayer, that guy was an infiltrator. This has been debunked so many times. There were only a few people like that at the Tea Parties, but at Occupy the norm was CPUSA, Unions, Socialists, druggies, homeless, etc.
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posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by sheepslayer247
 


Sheepslayer, that guy was an infiltrator. This has been debunked so many times.


There is no viable defense to
the occupy orginizers grouping
up with the nation of Islam (who are taught the holocaust is lie).
So they resort to poop slinging
and dead end straw-man attacks..

Besides the point, nazi skin heads who hate blacks, hate
jews also and would love to see them killed or wiped off the map
just like Iran..



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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I'm pro OWS and this is why.







It's that simple.

If we were truly dealing with free market capitalism you wouldn't be seeing such extreme polarizations of wealth. If the environment was truly competitive, what are the chances of the same people winning every time.

If the same team won the Super Bowl every year would you think the whole thing was rigged?

What we have is an entrenched oligarchy that uses their political and economic power to make sure it stays that way.

I'm pro union and this is why.




How they managed to convince the plebes that unions are a bad thing, I'll never know. Probably by using the same tactics that they're using against OWS now.

So far OWS has been stupid, commie, nazi, lazy, hippy, disease spreading, rapists, serial defecaters , anti-semetic, drug addicts,now they're in the Nation of Islam too. Why not? I just can't wait to see what they're going to be associated with next.

How much of that do you think is legit and how much of that do you think comes from the oligarchy that OWS is calling out?

If you were in that oligarchy just imagine the resources you would have and the tactics you could use when something like OWS comes along.



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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Sheepslayer, that guy was an infiltrator. This has been debunked so many times.


Fair enough. Does that justify that many, many other signs of racism at TP events? I can post more pics if you like.

Did you look at Pops pic? There is one sign of socialism. The rest are signs of greed, bankers, workers rights, etc. Does that one sign invalidate the concerns of every attendant or supporter?



There were only a few people like that at the Tea Parties, but at Occupy the norm was CPUSA, Unions, Socialists, druggies, homeless, etc.


I have a problem with the communists, and that's why I pulled my support from the Occupy movement...so I agree with that.

Unions are not inherently a problem. The politics they get involved with is.

Socialists: I have a problem with that statement because our police, firefighters and military are in and of themselves socialist programs. Are they not paid to protect the common good and paid by the collective wealth of the people? That's socialism! So the word socialism is a buzz word used by ignorant people, and I expect better from you.

Druggies: Be careful there! You may find many people you know in that group!

Homeless: Why wouldn't they march for a change in the system? THEY ARE HOMELESS!

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So they resort to poop slinging and dead end straw-man attacks..


Really? This coming from a man that just pulled out the Jew card....twice, and had to make a reference to Iran!


I rest my case.............



posted on Feb, 29 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
The American workers party is
NOTHING but a WOLF in cheap SHEEPS clothing.
Let me give you a clue.. That is really
the American SOCIALIST PARTY. All that is folks.

Now Occupy wall street IS teaming up with
the American socialist party, the American communist
party and now the Nation of Islam party?
NOT A SURPRISE TO ME!!

Of COURSE THESE OCCUPY GOONS ARE ANTI-AMERICAN
Their PRO socialist, communist, and Islamic terrorism.

I will tell you one thing,
NEVER WILL THEY TAKE MY COUNTRY!

Capitalism will reign supreme and I WILL DIE OVER IT..

So if they want a civil war WE WILL GIVE THEM A CIVIL WAR!

This occupy movement, nothing good will come of it..

People that are blindly following it, GET A GRIP you are being
played like PUPPETS, CUT THE STRING!
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Thomas Jefferson: 'Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.'


What OWS is doing is very patriotic unlike you who supports a system that trashed in a few decades what it took 200 years to build

And a civil war would be a bad idea simply because there are far more poor people than there are rich and the number of poor keep growing everyday.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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What difference does any of this make? I mean honestly. We're staring down the barrel of a debt so large it can never be paid back... ever. If every American were taxed at 100% from now until the day they died, it still wouldn't be enough.... and that's just America's debt. We're not even talking about Greece, or any of the other dozens of nations that are currently circling the drain.

Occupy cannot fix this problem.
Tea Partiers cannot fix this problem.
Our current governmetn cannot fix this problem.
Neither can Europe, or Asia, or the Middle East.

Personally, I couldn't give a damn whom Occupy joined with. I used to be one of their biggest supporters, but to be honest, they just aren't causing enough damage to engender change.

We're stuck in a glitch, ladies and gents, and the only way to fix the problem is with a massive reset.



posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Lets not forget, Accorns new organization
was paying homeless and other people
to go out and protest. This spring they are
trying to get everyone on board to push their agenda.
The nation of Islam just another notch in the bed post.

The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.
Accorn hires homeless and others to go to protest



Like I said before, TPTB are using Psychopaths as a grime removing agent. They are using these psychopaths in the occupy movement to attach to minority groups and causes to undo that which was done.




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