posted on Mar, 1 2012 @ 02:47 PM
Originally posted by plube
reply to post by arbiture
So part of your task at hand here on ATS is not ultruistic.then...OMG......you mean that you are here monitoring trends for you own personal gains
then....your here for business purposes...weeding out what is being said about stratfor and how it might affect your business in the
future.....feeling out the responses so that you too can be prepare for the baklash if and when you might possibly get hacked again yourself.
Oh please.....can you jonestly tell me in the world of corporate espianage that you would not use such tactic to further advance your business
market....or use information to further the goals of your clients...like reading all these hack emails and seeing if any of them apply to the
clientele that your company has established.
I bet your sniffing through the emails yourself like a little rat in a warren trying to eek out any bits of data which might help you to head off say
a merger...or a sour business deal that may affect one or several of your clients.
Please do not play the bleeding heart here as it will not wash.....the question is not the ethics behind the emails right now...it is the
content....and from what many have read about the internal workings of this company....it should be against the law for them to exist....at the end of
the day it is spying.....and no matter what we all know we are more and more spied on everyday is this world....and it really is disgusting.
people spy because theya re paranoid about their own self delusional paranoia ...they are so hung up on their self importance and the fact that they
themselves are most likely doing something dirty they need to hire a third party company such as yours to delve into other peoles business.....and if
your company just looks at say marketing trends then that is a little diffferent that spying for profits......I mean really where are the ethics when
a company is trying to further the greed of a murdurous company such as DOW chemicals.
hope you sleep with a clear conscience.
I sleep fine considering what I do and why. So what did you learn from the stolen emails that should be against the Law? Can't really report this to
law enforcement because they would have to admit THEY broke the law to get them. So please, enlighten me. By the way I don't look at emails not sent
to me. As for "delusional paranoia..." You get hacked and then threatened if reported to law enforcement THEN you may know what your talking about.
Knowing this kind of raw privacy violation is pandemic makes me cautious. No more "paranoid" then locking the door when I go out. Many would say
thats just plain stupid and they deserve to get someone going into their house if they don't lock the door. (they don't but look under "common
sense")Odd. You mention how everybody spies on everyone (not actually true, unless of course your Google.)
Corporate espionage? Trawling posts to advance an agenda? And what the hell does what DOW chemical did have to do with this? You do lump everyone in
with strange bed fellows. If your talking the calamity that happened in Bhopal India that was criminal. It would have helped if India had zoning laws
not putting a chemical plant in a residential area. But that does not absolve DOW of shoddy safety standards which should not be based on what a
government threw payoffs or stupidity lets a company get away with. They should be applied at the highest level everywhere.
By the way I use data mining that employs published and freely available data. The fact some reveal certain things openly and I can read between the
lines is not a crime. I have a brain and try to use it. Incidentally I provide training in corporate counter-espionage that is geared so not to
provide hints as to circumvent what I teach that is how corporate secrets and operations can be protected. Part of that is providing protocols for any
released information so it won't come back and bite you in the whatever, by people not as nice as me.
Privacy is a major issue with me. I always would wonder why people do immoral or illegal things thinking they can do so and make money. Perhaps they
can, but it amaze's me that there are so many appropriate and perfectly legal ways to make a living. Why be a crook? Dumb, very dumb. Ethics aside,
which they never should be in what one person or company does.