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Originally posted by faithplusone
He gave us the commandments for OUR benefit,look at the world now,you really think Gods commandments are the problem?
I am pretty sure no one is following them,even so called christians and religious people....
Jesus says we need to believe in Him,not because of Him,but because of us.
If we follow His laws and ways we can't fail.
Originally posted by vaelamin
You shall have no other gods before me.
You shall not make for yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
Chief Seattle's Thoughts
How can you buy or sell the sky, the warmth of the land? The idea is strange to us.
If we do not own the freshness of the air and the sparkle of the water, how can you buy them?
Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. Every shining pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every clearing and humming insect is holy in the memory and experience of my people. The sap which courses through the trees carries the memories of the red man.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”]
Originally posted by 35Foxtrot
I think the problem started when God made us is His image. That's why we're a bit hard to control. He had the angels already (without Free Will); humans were meant to be more.
Another problem I see is that a lot of the message of God is messed up by certain parts of "sacred" texts that were obviously inspired by man, not God. When you put the basically good message of God mixed in with these human-inspired books, things get contradictory.
Originally posted by Iamschist
I believe in free will and I do not see a contradiction with commandments. The commandments are common sense and most have real life consequences not even looking at Divine ones. They are warnings meant I believe, to protect us.
reply to post by windword
What god? The Jewish god? The Islamic god? the Christian god? We can't even decide who god is!
Really? You don't see anything wrong with this commandment?
Whoa! Touchy much? My God!
Well, it would be nice if TS never HTF on the Sabbath. Babies are born, people die, accidents happen on the Sabbath.
Right, so if dad sell's you into slavery to settle his debts, its all good. I guess dad can have sex with his daughter too?
Unless god or your government tells you to.
Two consenting adults, non of my business.
Ah! God condones property rights.
I don't know, it's ok for god to be jealous, but keep your hands to yourself! Don't be motivated by what others have.
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Okay. I guess there really are a lot more than 10 commandments. I'm glad that was then and this is now.