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Well, to be fair, they didn't exist then either. Masonry really didn't codify until 1717 when the United Grand Lodge of England was formed. There are a few references to lodges going back a ways before that, but there's no evidence that anything remotely related to the Knights Templar have a direct chain to what became Freemasonry.
Originally posted by thegagefather
You want to believe that there's something more to her strip-tease, but there isn't. Because Freemasons don't exist today in the sense that they existed in the 1400's.
That would be "The Bible"…
Originally posted by thegagefather
I know because many centuries-old mason lodges exist where I live,
Because I have been to several Mason funerals - which admittedly were quite fascinating, but were ultimately nothing but regular funerals with many old men and a few excerpts from another book of blind faith.
But the Masons started 600 years ago, and all the original members were executed less than 500 years ago.
What have the Masons accomplished since then?
God, they'd better not bring up Christ in lodge. I'd have them thrown out for being insensitive to our Jewish and Muslim brethren!!!
Originally posted by curious7
Of course Freemasons still exist, I've known someone who is one for a few years but he'd kill to have something like this happen at his lodge since all they talk about is Christ being the saviour, local events such as charity drives and the like.
Because we don't! Women are not allowed in the lodge room when the lodge is open for business. Hell, there are some Masons who don't think they should be allowed at officer installations or honors ceremonies either, but we usually open, call down to refreshment, invite the families of the honored members in, conduct whatever we're there to do, shoo them all out and officially close the lodge.
Originally posted by deadmonkey
Are you willing to except that the Masons have a ritual that involves a woman preforming a sexy dance as part of it? If not why not.
It's not. They're lying.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
The person that posted the video said that this woman represents Isis, and this is a common ritual.
Depends on which definition you want to use... The OED does offer
Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Brushing your teeth is not a ritual
It's a routine
which does describe Masonic ritual fairly well…
an action or series of actions regularly or habitually repeated.
Knock on the door, tell them you're interested in joining, and ask for a tour. Hell, they may even feed you dinner.
Originally posted by mirko
just shown that video to my housemate and he agreed to do an infiltration mission on them! he runs an established security company so I imagine won't be too difficult to gain some sort of access... any ideas how to approach them?
Yeah, I've seen a few first-time chaplains try to end a prayer with "In Christ's name we pray…", and they've always gotten a stern lecture from their elders afterwards.
Originally posted by essanance
Indeed in what lodge is it ok to talk about religion ? No Politics or Religion in Lodge ever was how i was taught ..
"For the first time in its history, Western Civilization is in danger of being destroyed internally by a corrupt, criminal ruling cabal which is centered around the Rockefeller interests, which include elements from the Morgan, Brown, Rothschild, Du Pont, Harriman, Kuhn-Loeb, and other groupings as well. This junta took control of the political, financial, and cultural life of America in the first two decades of the twentieth century."
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England... (and) ...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records. … I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
“ It was this group of people, whose wealth and influence so exceeded their experience and understanding, who provided much of the framework of influence which the Communist sympathizers and fellow travelers took over in the United States in the 1930s. It must be recognized that the power of these energetic Left wingers exercised was never their own power or Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie, and, once the anger and suspicions of the American people were aroused as they were in the 1950s, it was a fairly simple matter to get rid of the Red sympathizers. Before this could be done, however, a congressional committee, following backward to their source the threads which led from the admitted Communists like Whittaker Chambers, through Alger Hiss, and the Carnegie Endowment to Thomas Lamont and the Morgan Bank, fell into the whole complicated network of the interlocking tax-exempt foundations. The Eighty-third Congress set up in 1953 a Special Reece Committee to investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations. It soon became clear that people of immense wealth would be unhappy if the investigation went too far and that the "most respected" newspapers in the country, closely allied with these men of wealth, would not get excited enough about any revelations to make the publicity worthwhile. An interesting report showing the Left-wing associations of interlocking nexus of tax-exempt foundations was issued in 1954 rather quietly. Four years later, the Reece Committee's general counsel, Rene A Wormser, wrote a shocked, but not shocking, book on the subject called "Foundations: Their Power and Influence.":954-955
There does exist, and has existed for a generation,an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe), but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
The mysticism is masonry lies in the eyes of the beholder - And the fearful, feeble human mind is quick to attack that which it does not know.