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Leaked video of freemason-show.

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Is it true that the secret society has different levels? And that the lower initiates are not told certain "secrets" until they are initiated into the higher echelons of the society? If that is true how can any Mason deny things they may not have any idea about going on above them.

They are taught there are only a certain level of degrees. But what if there are more that they don't even know exist, and would never know unless they are put in the place to know? Now would the ones in the know let the ones that are not in the know know? What would be the point of the rituals then?

Actually the one thing we know for sure is that there are many secrets that are kept even from members of the society, so it would be pointless to deny any accusation as they are closed even to each other, and thus would never know for sure if accusations were true or not.

Why would someone join a society that keeps its purpose secret until you promise not to reveal it? Would it be possible to join a society with sinister intentions without meaning to if you would blindly do something like that?

Does it make sense to become a part of something you know nothing about? And even if you think you know what if there are secrets you don't know. Why are they being kept secret from you? What is the purpose of the secrecy? What type of people usually like to hide in the dark and keep their acts secret from the public eye?

I had a grandfather that was a high ranking Freemason (thanks of course to his generous donations to the organization I no doubt he gave.) The story my dad tells is that when he when to Scotland to get a certain rank (which was very high supposedly, 33 or something like that) my grandfather's story was that he was flabbergasted at the hypocricy that was revealed to him. Now it wasn't anything mind-numbing, he said it was the fact that at lower levels they were taught you shouldn't smoke or drink or something to that effect, I don't remember exactly what, but something like that, but at the higher level it was revealed to him that they could. I always wondered if that was the real reason he choose not to continue but he left the Freemasons.

I also find it interesting that after he rejected the offer to join the 33rd degree, for whatever reason, I think it will be hidden, my uncle, my granddad's oldest son, was found dead a short while later, with a plastic bag over his head in his room in the mansion my granddad used to own.

Oh, and for the record, they do practice sorcery. I know that for a fact. Maybe not all Freemasons, although they do use the skull and bones and thus they all must to a certain degree involve themselves in occultic practices. But if all of them overtly practice the summoning of demons at what not I cannot say, but I can say there is definitely a group inside the society that does. My granddad was among them.
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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do people really think that a bunch of old guys went out and bought ill a@@ Illuminati decorations and hired in a bunch of extras to dress up in nice tuxes just to sit in to watch this staged hoax get filmed for...? what? give me one good reason for this to get staged? what possible benefit could the possibly be achieving. ignore all those typo's in that last post. i usually bang these out quick.. but if you look at the dots. everything can be connected. why it it hard to believe that a group of guys that control all the wealth and power wouldn't try to control the world? who knows whats really going on or what might be coming. this is a good story to read.

Georgia guidestones

for all we know they are holding information like in the movie 2012 and it will come through hollywoood style or maybe they are going to stage an alien attack that will convert everyone in to believing the aliens are our gods and its where we came from, even though man will be behind the whole thing. i really dont know to me its all interesting. but what i find most interesting that if it happens, it was called out a long time ago..

Revelation 13:1, 3-18
“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (KJV)

rev 23 “He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it. 24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

i mean all this is pretty much going down right now with Jerusalem (where the dome of the rock sits where "god came down") iran, russia, china, the us, europe. to me its all very possible. not to mention...

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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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albert pike

who said in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions." 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4

but then.

"The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations."



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Dont know why but whenever I read these 'Freemason' commenters here, they all seem ridiculously brainwashed.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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Considering that you can not identifiy anything on these men that indicates they are Masons I think that it is plausible to consider.
That's probably because they aren't Masons. They are the puppeteers of Masons. You are completely naive if you bought that story about Masonry being just to create better men. The 3 men didn't rent this place, they own it. Obviously I can't prove that, but I think it's clear enough. And even if they don't own it, then you still have to explain why the Illuminati pyramid is next to the Mason symbols. Oh that's right, it's the "Christian version" of the all seeing eye pyramid...
I'm done with this thread for now, there's no point arguing with a bunch of Masons about this.
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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I see your point about renting out a masonic lodge, I've been to one for a family reunion because some obscure relative of mine was the grandmaster (or whatever) of that lodge. Needless to say it was even duller than this video, and there were no dancers either...

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Masons also have some weird customs, like secret handshakes, and drinking wine from a skull for a high level ritual.
They also believe in codes in nearly every important ancient building, especially the great pyramids, and solomon's temple. I heard this first hand and saw a very old book with precise dimensions of every aspect of each pyramid handwritten in, purportedly handed down for hundreds of years.

However as far as this being a formal masonic ritual, meh, maybe, but doubtful. There are groups who do things much sicker than this for rituals. There are many weird beliefs and rituals and cults that some of the old money rich/powerful frequent. Eyes wide shut was an interesting mainstream indicator.

But what does this video prove/show? Not much imo. Could just be a scene from some straight to vhs movie filmed on a camera phone for all I know.

This was uploaded to a hip hop website? Doesn't add to the credibility.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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lol @ your hip hop comment. such a joke.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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Actually the hip-hop community is very well informed of illuminati theories. At least the more intelligent members, anyway.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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There are three (or more) chairs in every Lodge, I imagine that if you were to rent the Lodge or even to take the tour, that you could have your picture taken while sitting in the East. The center chair is the Worshipful Masters chair and the others are honorific for Past Masters or Grand Masters. While at work, anyone sitting in those chairs are in Aprons and wearing the jewels of their office.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Um, the "Masons" are just a club folks.

This secret video looks like a "talent show" -- and the judges look a bit thrown off (but not upset) that this big haired beauty has put on a Burlesque dance routine.

Maybe people have to show talents to get a level of recognition, or maybe this is just a talent show/competition like you'd get in million other groups. The ONLY THING interesting about Masons is that they do good stuff without a lot of advertisements, and that they have fun keeping things secretive.

If you REALLY want to find the power behind the curtain -- join a Country Club for a quarter million dollars -- those folks are always scheming.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:50 PM
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yea, and the mafia was just innocent pizza shops and clubs..



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by time91
reply to post by AugustusMasonicus
 


I see your point about renting out a masonic lodge, I've been to one for a family reunion because some obscure relative of mine was the grandmaster (or whatever) of that lodge. Needless to say it was even duller than this video, and there were no dancers either...

____________________________________________________________________________________

Masons also have some weird customs, like secret handshakes, and drinking wine from a skull for a high level ritual.
They also believe in codes in nearly every important ancient building, especially the great pyramids, and solomon's temple. I heard this first hand and saw a very old book with precise dimensions of every aspect of each pyramid handwritten in, purportedly handed down for hundreds of years.

However as far as this being a formal masonic ritual, meh, maybe, but doubtful. There are groups who do things much sicker than this for rituals. There are many weird beliefs and rituals and cults that some of the old money rich/powerful frequent. Eyes wide shut was an interesting mainstream indicator.

But what does this video prove/show? Not much imo. Could just be a scene from some straight to vhs movie filmed on a camera phone for all I know.

This was uploaded to a hip hop website? Doesn't add to the credibility.



This video proves that even Masons get bored of their own rituals.

The whole point of the secrecy and "each level getting closer to the top" being revealed another secret ritual is that otherwise it would be people sitting around wasting time. The OLDEST tricks of the temple priests are all the same; make the acolyte go through a lot of crap that they don't understand, and the more they endure, the more they are going to treat the ultimate "TRUTH" we reveal as something important.

It's as if you climbed Mount Everest to retrieve a "Tickle Me Elmo Doll" -- when you returned with your trophy, that would be the most important "tickle me elmo" doll in existence. Sorry to reveal the "Ultimate Mystery" that might take someone being a 3rd Degree Glorious Master to find out.

>> The "Eyes Wide Shut" stuff probably does go on. Nothing is more likely with a bunch of over fed, over wealthy, cynical bastards who spend all day BSing the public whether they run a government, church, or PR office on Wall Street. I'm sure once you realize that the FBI and every other justice system in the US is only focused on people stealing movies, or complaining about YOU, I'm sure there comes a point where TOO MUCH is never enough, and then things get freaky.

Goldman Sacks would like nothing better than everyone trying to chase down the Illuminati for the New World Order so that they can enjoy the spoils of the Old World Order.
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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by RebelRouser
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yea, and the mafia was just innocent pizza shops and clubs..



No, we have records of what the mafia did and the CRIMES.

I think the Masons would enjoy having someone sneaking around a lodge trying to infiltrate them, because if people weren't freaked out about their stupid rituals, they'd all just be a bunch of people standing around doing stupid rituals in funny hats.

About as diabolical as Fred Flinstone's "Grand Poo-Bah."



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:11 PM
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A poster on here awhile back named of all things Lucifer777 had some interesting and funny debates with some of the Mason's on here at ATS, he claimed that the Freemasons always had wild stripper parties and such and of course most of the Mason's on here denied this, but here was the quandary the poster Lucifer777 was from Europe, the United Kingdom if i remember correct and most of the Masons debating him on here are from the United States lodges.


What i'm getting at is maybe Lucifer777 actually had some legit knowledge about Europen Masonry (since people are claiming the men are European in the video), i'v always said i thought the European branches of Freemasonry were more corrupt and or infiltrated then the United States branches, now don't get me wrong i find nothing wrong with a few men of any age enjoying the company of any chick of legal age, i'm not condemning it on that level, but when the Mason's whole montra is "making good men better" is this what they mean by that??? does making good men better mean making them better in bed after popping some viagra lol.


The only thing i find creepy about the whole thing is the all seeing eye and i don't care how people want to spin that, having the all seeing eye in back of a chick doing a burlesque dance is creepy flat out, now if she was dancing on top of the black and white checkered floor, now that's a turn on lol.



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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by RebelRouser
albert pike

who said in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini
First, that hoax has been debunked. By an anti-Mason, no less.

Second, what the hell does that have to do with a dancer putting on a show in a lodgeroom?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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Bunch of dirty old men.



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by quedup
Just shows what good Christian Men these guys are - I'm sure their wives know all about what they do at their meetings.

Yes surely God Fearing Folk - isn't that what they say????
Um, how is watching a clothed dancer un-Christian or something that my wife would disapprove of? Would you prefer she was wearing a burkha?



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:39 PM
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Ah. typical masonic sausage-fest. See, the Masons are just regular guys! Its just an innocent, um...dance? It is a very slick advertisement, im sure they will get many seeking membership after seeing the vid.

dont look now....but while you were watching the whore dance around, someone is stealing the gold out yer pocket.!


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posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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Even old men want to have fun too, as long as the chick is of legal age and this is no Illuminati ritual before they sacrifice the girl i don't think it's wrong on that level, however like i said the all seeing eye behind the girl is flat out creepy giving with what's going on.


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Josh this isn't exactly "making good men better".



posted on Feb, 7 2012 @ 11:40 PM
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No, you got it all wrong King. He brought up the Royal Order of Jesters who are a side degree of the Shrine which is from USA. NONE of the Masons here denied it and more than a few voiced their disgust in these Jesters behaviour. Also, if you will remember he was grinding his axe on Anglo-American Freemasonry but had nothing but glowing admiration for Continental Masonry.

PS I have sat in Continental Lodges in Europe and I am pretty sure that Bro Ksig has sat in UGLE Lodges in Europe.



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