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Originally posted by Mimir
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
Originally posted by jazz10
reply to post by LittleBlackEagle
Thats what i was thinking. So where is the prozac coming from?
2nd
or is it even prosac. if we look at what has happened to the sea that provides enough tons of harmful waste the one thing that practically jumps out at you is the gulph spill and chems they used on that.
Yes.
To mimic conditions in the wild, scientists exposed the estuary-dwelling shrimp Echinogammarus marinus to the antidepressant fluoxetine at levels detected in average sewage-treatment waste. Fluoxetine is the key ingredient in the drugs Prozac and Sarafem. NationalGeographics
reply to post by RadioactiveRob
I know I'm repeating myself but dont forget its also used on the soldiers so they dont get depressed by the many situations they face.
I can only imagine that it's no fun when your constantly confronted with the ugly facts of war, like anger, blown off limbs sometime from children or Your under bombardment.
I'm not certain it's a good idea to supress this kind of depression with medecine especially not when you'r at war, it's not the same problem as those who need it medical. Many older civilizations druged themself before warsituations, like the viking berzerkers used psychedelic like psilocybin mushrooms, but modern day warfare is not about who is the most insane axeswinger anymore.
Is it because you become a more coldblooded killer not thinking about the concequences before you pull the trigger?
edit on 6-2-2012 by Mimir because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RadioactiveRob
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
Originally posted by RadioactiveRob
I can't help but sit back and reflect for a moment on the absurdity of anti-depressents. To understand first of all you need to know why people get depressed in the first place. It's usually because something isn't going well in a persons life, they're not happy, or whatever it may be. It can all be traced back to an individual's environment and how it effects them psychologically. So in my opinion if you want to treat depression you have to change that persons environment, not give them a magic pill. This is perhaps the biggest fraud ever, and why was this done you ask? In the name of PROFIT. All problems we face today can be traced back to the the monetary system, capitalism, and the concept of money, I kid you not, probably just about every single one of them.edit on 6-2-2012 by RadioactiveRob because: (no reason given)
although that can be true in short term cases, chronic depression due to brain chemical imbalances are not a mere nuisance, they are very real and you can't just smile them away.
Wikipedia says that chemical imbalances are just a theory.
Chemical imbalance is one hypothesis about the cause of mental illness. Other causes that are debated include psychological and social causes.
And then it says this
According to critics, the chemical imbalance hypothesis has been overpromoted and continues to be advanced as factual by pharmaceutical companies. They believe the general population and many journalists have accepted this hypothesis into their understanding of mental illness uncritically.[11] They have pointed to the lack of an established chemical balance (without which, they claim, the notion of an "imbalance" is meaningless). Certain pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer continue to promote drugs like Zoloft with advertisements asserting that mental illness may be due to chemical imbalances in the brain, and that their drugs work to "correct" this imbalance.[12] Most academics believe that the advertisements are oversimplified and don't fully explain what is happening.[13]
I for one agree, it is my firm opinion all depression is caused by a deficiency in a person's life or environment. People don't get their emotional needs met and they get depressed, thing's happen that shouldn't happen they get depressed, etc. That's just common sense man. Big Pharma has one goal and one goal only, to turn a profit, they will tell you any crap they can to make you believe you need their pills. You see, it's hard to trust people in a monetary system, and when some big company gives you information that oh just happens to benefit them, like telling you that you have a chemical imbalance in your brain and you need their pills, thats a red flag right there! Don't be so naive, it all comes back to money.edit on 6-2-2012 by RadioactiveRob because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
while i agree wholeheartedly about big pharma being sinister and corrupt as hell, there is much we don't know about the brain. i was raised by great parents and remember seeing my mother get anxiety attacks from nowhere for no reason. i have these same things among others. my son was raised with all the love and caring two people could ever give him and he began having nightmares at age 4 for no apparent reason, they continue to this day along with panic attacks and feeling suicidal by the 8th grade. if something can go from mother, to son, to grandson, it's not make believe nor from environmental deficiencies, at least not in our case.
"the antidepressant fluoxetine at levels detected in average sewage-treatment waste"