Origin of Ancient Jade Tool Baffles Scientists

It's ok,it's my entertainment and that all that matters,right?

I have seen the light.

What's funny is we haven't seen any mods in here yet,as far as this has gone.


peace,
super bowl coming on.

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Shh don't call attention to the obvious.

I can just see a bunch of us getting swatted like flies as soon as the superbowl ends.

Go uh, Pats, I guess.

well im probably going to get banned for this but i dont believe its right be hypocritical and i worked hard to help stop sopa so what follows is one of the posts on said site sorry its going to be a wall of text and honestly reading it didnt hurt my opinion on things and it was pretty stupid even if it was automated

Signs of the Times is one of the very few news and information portals on the web that remains uncorrupted in any way and is staffed by a group of people who are dedicated to one thing - bringing the Truth to the general public. We are able to do this because we rely solely on support from our readers and our own hard work: book sales.

As many of our readers are probably aware, we had a little "to do" with a gang we consider to be agents of Pentagon psy-ops - abovetopsecret.com and friends - last night. We were up until 3 a.m. dealing with the backlash from this situation...

As many of our readers are probably aware, we had a little "to do" with a gang we consider to be agents of Pentagon psy-ops - abovetopsecret.com and friends - last night. We were up until 3 a.m. dealing with the backlash from this situation.

What is clear from this Stealth Attack that ran amok is that Signs of the Times is probably the most dangerous site on the internet from the perspective of the Powers That Be. For them to take the risk of exposure as they did (and did they get exposed!) only convinces us that the issues in question are of such importance that they will pull out all stops to defame, harass, stalk, and intimidate us with the ultimate goal of destruction. They want to see SOTT disappear from the Web, that is certainly clear and it is now becoming even clearer just WHO is behind it.

It was only this morning that we understood that this event was supposed to be a "stealth" attack. We were never supposed to see the letter from abovetopsecret.com's attorney, Wayne C. Jaeschke, Jr. of Morrison & Foerster LLP in McLean VA . It was sent to our host server, not to us. In fact, after the ridiculous letters claiming "copyright infringement" that I published on my blog back in January, it is clear why: ATS knew that such nonsense - even if written by an attorney - would not fly with us because they do not have a legal leg to stand on. Writing a critique of an article is NOT making a "derivative" work - and if journalists, scientists, scholars in all fields, are denied the ability to critique nonsense such as the article published by abovetopsecret.com - there is no future for any intellectual progress in our society. We might as well declare science, journalism, research of any kind, dead and buried.

In any event, this stealth attack intimidation letter was sent not to us, but to our site host. It was probably only because the tech's were so upset that they sent it to us. And of course, once I had it - the "smoking gun" so to say - you bet I published it!! Here was proof positive that Joe Quinn's article debunking the debunking of the Pentagon Strike was seen as a BIG THREAT! Within FIVE minutes, poor, pitiful Wayne knew that he had shot himself in the foot and was on the phone to the server screaming that he was now getting death threats because I published his contact details!! Well, hell's bells... it's public info on the internet! Click the link and visit Wayne - see his friendly face.

Possibly utilizing the "special psychological knowledge" of the psychopath that Andrew Lobaczewski describes in his work on Ponerology, good ole Wayne did such a number on those poor tech guys that they folded instantly. They took the site down again. So, we were back on the phone with them again pointing out that, when we chose their company, we explained the nature of our site and the nature of the likely attacks that would come out of the woodwork against us and they had declared that it was NO PROBLEMO. So, knowing that and seeing that Mr. Jaeschke still managed to intimidate the heck out of them really makes you wonder just what kinds of things he said to them on the phone? Geez! Didn't Hannibal Lecter convince a guy to swallow his own tongue? But I digress... what happened was that the server techs were so scared, they took the site down again. They told us we had to remove Wayne's letter from the forum where I had published it. We pointed out that there was no way we could do that without having access to the forum which we didn't because they had pulled the plug on our site. So, they agreed to put it back up so I could make the adjustments.

I was IN THE PROCESS of doing it, trying to upload the changes, when the site disappeared again!

Back on the phone. Apparently, poor Wayne was so frantic that a few minutes were going by with his connection to abovetopsecret.com exposed for all the world to see that I just wasn't doing it fast enough and he had to dial up those poor guys and terrorize them some more.

Well, we patiently explained that Wayne is just a cointelpro agent and internet psy-ops game player using his position as an attorney to intimidate them. They were REALLY scared! So, after they got calmed down a bit, the site went back up and they stayed on the phone until I gave them the signal that the letters had been removed from all three threads.

I actually felt sorry for those poor fellas! And that kind of terror is what psychopaths count on and that is why it is so important to study psychopathy, to know them fully and well so that you are not susceptible to their maneuvers and manipulations! In this day and time, a course about psychopaths ought to be required for anybody in a position to be intimidated or coerced by such blatant strong-mouth manipulation. But I digress again.

What is evident is that what Wayne was really upset about the publication of his close association with abovetopsecret.com - after all, as one of the posters to our forum points out: "MoFo is a heavyweight law firm. Sort of like the Mercedes-Benz of law firms. These aren't ambulance chasers. Their meat and potatos are IP law and other big corporation stuff. Intel retains them, among others. They don't usually bother with harassment suits, but as long as your coin is good (and plenty), they'll do whatever you want. Whoever is behind this has a lot of coins to throw around." Having said that, there are two Wayne Jaeschke's at MoFo (is that name symbolic?), most likely father and son, of which our Wayne is the son. It seems that while MoFo might be the 'Mercedes Benz' of law firms, Wayne junior isn't up to much other than intimidating customer support at server companies and trying to find new ways to build bigger and better speakers, probably so he can listen to a recording of his own voice telling himself what a big, powerful lawyer he is.

This brings me to something else most interesting, the whole so-called Project SERPO hoax that abovetopsecret.com - with the gleeful assistance of attorney Wayne Jaeschke - has been running on the internet since last fall. There is a discussion about that on our forum also, and on this page of that discussion you will see a very interesting image about half way down.

This is an image of an email that Bill Ryan of Project SERPO sent to me claiming that it had been sent to him by "friends" who were on the list of recipients. When I published it, I blacked out the name of the sender because I wasn't at all sure that a respectable attorney with a reputable law firm would actually be doing what this email suggests he is doing: creating disinformation to propagate via abovetopsecret.com. But now I can tell you who wrote that email because his involvement with ATS is now on the record: it was Wayne Jaeschke of Morrison & Foerster LLP in McLean VA.

Gee, isn't that right down the road from the CIA?

In short, this high-end corporate attorney is VERY thick in the whole Abovetopsecret gang activity. Funny, QFG only ever had ONE attorney member and he only lasted about a week.

Readers, if you want to know the deep, dark, nitty gritty details behind this abovetopsecret.com cointelpro operation, you will not want to miss a single one of my blog posts on that subject:

reply to post by kdog1982

well ats is east coast owned so maby the mods are all at a super bowl party like some other poster mentioned and ive been here for a few years and this is the longest ive ever seen something like this go on...

little funny they removed posts and added the 'lies post thing' and then went for super bowl lmao,,

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soooo thats what happined? soo if the op is still here any more news on the jade or theories?

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Somebody likes living dangerously

Aaaaaand this thread is what happens when those in control begin to fear losing that control, however noble the initial intention was.

Apparently now this site harbors professional liars under the moniker of "debunker", but cannot stand criticism, and anyone presenting such criticism is labeled a liar and blocked.

Damn, everyone look at the new face of the internet. Looks just like China.

Btw, I'm still confounded by the BS decision to censor all discussion of "illegal substances"on this site. ATS has basically made it clear that they believe the discussion of such substances is tantamount to using such substances and hence forbidden.

Yes, its forbidden to DISCUSS the practical application of such substances. Unbelievable and frightening to witness firsthand, on this very site, the dissolvement of freedom of speech.

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thanks, I was looking for that guy,,

oh lol doggie

I think this thread got more flags because the censorship than the content of the Op.

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Seems to me, much of that could have occured in his head?

Not saying its not true, but he mentions the break in and computer tamper sooooooooooo many times, like someone obsessed, or even delusional? Like I said, not sure really. But with any huge website they are bound to annoy many members over the years.

would be sad to see you banned over this! I've come to like your posts!

edited to protect the innocent

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Thank you for the compliment!

I backed down and edited those posts.

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Wimp

well im glad i got to see it before you edited man

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Rocketman7

 

I'm all about what Billy James said. You've pretty much saved the thread ,so no more off topics for me.

I wrote a thread a while back " Gods of Academia " didn't go down any particular path but definetely addressed the lies and possible cover ups not just in ancient history but science and archeology as well. I think there is a whole lot more of this occurring than anyone imagines. For instance, if it were found out some how that giants did exist at one time ? And I mean giants like 20 footers. The Bible would instantly become far less a fairytale
to a great many people who believe that's all it is. as I believe they've gone to school and paid to be told a bunch of falsified crap. I believe they're the ones who have been lied too. They believe what has been controlled and approved for them to believe.

The truth peeks out from behind the veil of lies very often.

edit on 5-2-2012 by randyvs because: (no reason given)

I will show you a text from the time of the conquistadors, and you have to take it in context.
At that time they were very religious Catholic. So the text is
Sodomite Flesh Eating Giants from Peru

And I showed one of the water cisterns he refers to in a previous post. Previous page.

There is a lot more to history, than people want to admit. Lots of out of place artifacts.
But again regarding the trade route between South America and Egypt, they did find tobacco and coc aine in mumies. In their bones and hair.
You can always dispute any evidence, merely by debunking it.
I think people should look at history as that it may have happened, and not fight over it.
The reason that scientists lie about the Out of Africa hypothesis, is because some believed that if they didn't we would never get over racial discrimination, so therefore we are all black.
We all came from Africa, and we all have a common ancestor Eve.
Well children need fairy tales, but science should not be in the business of writing fairy tales and passing it off as truth. The end doesn't justify the means.
You see now that the Internet is global, and access to information is right there at people's fingertips, the old guard, who maybe used to decide what people knew, and what they should believe, they can't enforce that any more.
In South America, the conquistadors tortured people until they agreed with them. Thats one way I suppose.
Internet censorship is something people are always trying to accomplish, but the more they do, the more they incite people to fight for free speech, and it ends up rebounding on them usually.

Imagine the information that gets hidden, and passes into the hands of collectors. Imagine what sort of amazing information lies buried under the sand off Cuba, in that sunken city, yet no one will investigate it further.
I watched Harvard tear down Tiahuancu, one of the oldest city sites on earth, and rebuild it as a relativity recent Inca ruin. I found that really disturbing.
It had pillars with limestone crusting on it from when Lake Titicaca had once submerged it. It is now some 20 miles from Titicaca.
And this...stonework at Coricancha
Does it make me a racist if I say that I have never known any race of indigenous native Indians to be so industrious as to do stonework like that with pounding stones?
The Spanish stonework is on the right with mortar. The waterproof joints of the old ruins, are a testament to early civilization that was not made by Inca people. They even said they didn't make the stuff they inhabited.
The story changed as people tried to hide the past.

It's not a CNN where truth can't defend itself. On ATS truth can defend itself, so members should have capability to post ANYTHING. If it is false, then it will be easily exposed as lie. No need for censorship.