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Argentinians protest arrival of Prince Williams on Malvinas

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas
reply to post by michael1983l
 


this is a myth .British empire destroyed and looted one of the richest nations on earth.

www.marxists.org...

shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in...



when you start quoting factual links from reputable websites I may start listening to you but until then I will just assume you are spouting as much bull# as I have witnessed from you so far.




posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by HonestHerb

Originally posted by Soshh

Originally posted by HonestHerb
Ok so I dont know if you know your history or not, but the Falkland Islands belong to Argentina, as they are right within the country.




What?!


Thats the same mentality the British had towards the Scots, the Irish, the Chinese, the Indians, the Americans, the Argentines, the list goes on. I mean if your mental state says your entitled to the world, then it all belongs to you doesnt it? Just for a fact, the British have oppressed the world, killed more people and killed more people than any other country. So who really is civilized now?


I'm not interested.

The Falkland Islands are not "right within" Argentina and they do not belong to Argentina. That is all.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Would anyone be interested in discussing the arrival of Prince William in the Falkland Islands?

It looks like a truly provocative manoeuvre:


Previous tasks have included rescuing fishermen from trawlers, taking seriously ill patients to hospital, putting out peat fires and dropping off supplies to isolated areas...


Source article



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas

Indian history books give estimates of 150-250 million but then comprehensive research of primary data and statistical database suggests its much higher.



Davis and others have estimated that there were between 12 and 33 million avoidable deaths by famine in India between 1876 and 1908, produced by a deadly combination of official callousness and free-market ideology.

www.guardian.co.uk...



Under Queen Victoria the 1845-1850 Irish famine resulted in 1 million dead from starvation (while food was being exported from Ireland) and 1.5 million Irish fled overseas, many perishing from destitution in transit or on arrival.

Brutal British rule in India was associated with Indian cholera epidemics (25 million victims) and famines (scores of millions of victims). An estimated 500 million Indians died avoidably from deprivation under the merciless rule of Queen Victoria.


It would appear that Britain is getting the blame for natural disasters such as cholera epidemics & famines.

By the way, where on earth did the ridiculous figure of 500 million Indians dying under Victoria?

To arrive at that figure, the British would have had to have killed every Indian twice!

Yet, there India is today with a population of over 1 billion!

By the way, how many inhabitants of the Falklands did the big bad British Empire kill?

Zero.








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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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I am sure you inherited money and resources from your not alive ancestors.
And on the basis of that money, you go around calling others poor and other things.
Millions are born in poverty in the so called third world countries, have they done anything wrong compared to the ones born in rich countries.
It's easy to say for you but you are equally responsible for the situation.
Why don't you correct your forefather's mistakes???



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by pause4thought
Would anyone be interested in discussing the arrival of Prince William in the Falkland Islands?

It looks like a truly provocative manoeuvre:


Previous tasks have included rescuing fishermen from trawlers, taking seriously ill patients to hospital, putting out peat fires and dropping off supplies to isolated areas...


Source article




Who does he think he is, just because he happens to be part of the royal family does not mean he has a license to be so agressive towards the Argentinian population on the Island.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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because the way British destroyed natural medicine and starvation the population practices.And guardian is a british tabloid which will understate indian deaths.

Queen Victoria executed 30 to 100 million after the Meerut revolt by Mangal Pandey.

Becuse the british impoverished india by economic and military means,people were impoverished and died due to starvation, disease.

A whole series of measures were employed to legalise trickery. T h e
British set up a mint i r ~ Calcutta and, a s Adam Smith revealed, the gold
coins it produced were "rated too high for the value which it bears in the
market of Rengal. I n 1.835, the EIC introduced its silver rupees as the
standard coin in British-occupied India, there in by demonetizing all Indian
currencies. 'The constant ~nanipul a t ions o f the currency of India in the
interests o f Britain, once more. foreshadows the machinations o f the WB
and IMF today. when they insist upon the devaluation of our currencies.

shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in...

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famines were caused by british because they forced farmers to grow cash crops instead of food crops and tortured those who did not obey.


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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas


this is a myth .British empire destroyed and looted one of the richest nations on earth.

www.marxists.org...


I love your link.

Marxist.org

Now there is a source that can be relied on to tell it as it is!


By the way, isn't it true that Argentina is where the Nazis fled at the end of WWII? They were welcomed with open arms.

But what does this have to do with Argentina trying to make a grab for recently discovered oil.

Nothing out of Argentina about the Falklands for 30 years and then as soon as oil is discovered...



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Who does he think he is, just because he happens to be part of the royal family does not mean he has a license to be so agressive towards the Argentinian population on the Island.

He is clearly there to kill them. I believe he is scheduled to make a broadcast from Port Stanley at 18:00 this evening directed at the Argentinian government. According to a leaked copy of the speech he makes a thinly-veiled reference to the possibility of an invasion of Argentina. An anonymous source claims to have heard him suggesting he may subsequently impose English as the sole state language and require all officers of the Argentinian navy to raise their glasses in a daily toast to Blighty.




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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Are we talking about the same Britain that built schools and hospitals. Is this the same Britain that send s millions in aide to the Indian people on a yearly basis despite India having a far larger economy than Britain. Id this the same India where despite looking after their own country for at least 50 years that the majority of their population is still living in poverty. the same India where many of their population have emigrated to the UK for a better life? The same India that gives all of its money to 15% of its population and allows the rest to starve.

Yeah your right I am convinced. We need to bring indias government to the UK to look after us because we'd be so much better off.
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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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famines were deliberately caused by the british with the objective of starving and attempting to eradicate hinduism from India.
www.larouchepub.com...
jambudveep.wordpress.com...

And marxists though control freaks are far superior to the psychopathic british empire by a great margin .



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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mkgandhas you are a lost soul, your hatred for anything britain has removed your ability to read, ingest and process any information that is factual. I feel quite sorry for you to be honest,



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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sorry I don't believe british lies and propaganda.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas
reply to post by michael1983l
 


sorry I don't believe british lies and propaganda.


I never had any doubts, your only interested in pure fantasy. You are embarrasing yourself by the way.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by mkgandhas
Queen Victoria executed 30 to 100 million after the Meerut revolt by Mangal Pandey.


For a little stout women, that surprises me.

Besides, this site says that India had a population of 285 million in 1855, which rose to 292 million in 1860.

www.populstat.info...

Yet according to you, the British killed up to 100 million in 1857?



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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lower estimates have suggested 30 million higher upto 80-100 million.

check the stats carefully especially 1860-61. Reprisals by british continued long after the revolt . and there was a good arguement on this by ludwigvonmises:

292366,0 1860 then
135634,2 1861

155 million killed? 1857 there was a massive revolt and it does indicate A MAJOR THING (again the figures alter ,indicates data quality is poor or the british were the hiding the scale of their monstrous mass murders

This was the original post:

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by woodwardjnr
 

British empire is the biggest mass murderer of History and you haven't debunked it.

Firstly,I do not believe british stats on india as they are corrupted.secondly the data is showing huge deviations which could be symbols of mass genocide by the British of hundreds of millions altogether at once by means of starvation or mass executions.

Secondly a lot of indians have told me stories of how murderous and racist the british people were and they don't believe british stats as they consistently changed to lie about the mass murders there are several mass graves in UP,Madhya Pradesh which have been attributed to the murderous british by indian locals...

292366,0 1860 then
135634,2 1861

155 million killed? 1857 there was a massive revolt and it does indicate A MAJOR THING (again the figures alter ,indicates data quality is poor or the british were the hiding the scale of their monstrous mass murders

300963,0 1875 then all of a sudden
201888,1 1881

100 million killed?


288730,0 1885
282801,0 1890
276994,0 1895



and then after 1900 population kept falling till 1920 despite high fertility and birth rates(starvation,mass execution,genocide?).After independence india's population exploded.

The data quality is terrible as figures are not consistent for some years and show mass alterations.But it proves one thing.British are trying to hide true data with constantly altering figures. I guess it proves my point .British waged mass genocide in india and the 1.8 billion murdered by the British empire still stands.

and this is from your own source.
www.populstat.info...
Secondly ,refer to Jane Austen and the Black Hole of British History or Amartya Sen's works on indian history(nobel prize winner)


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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Yeah you are still embarrasing yourself.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Well to be fair you make india look like the most weak assed pussies in the universe..

The whole millions of the indian population could not destroy a few brits from this tiny island?


What a pathetic bunch of weak losers! A nation of weak cowards even!

I have no sympathy

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posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by deepankarm
reply to post by LeBombDiggity
 


I am sure you inherited money and resources from your not alive ancestors.
And on the basis of that money, you go around calling others poor and other things.
Millions are born in poverty in the so called third world countries, have they done anything wrong compared to the ones born in rich countries.
It's easy to say for you but you are equally responsible for the situation.
Why don't you correct your forefather's mistakes???


Through the medium of me giving you money, presumably ?

Eh, I don't think so.



posted on Feb, 4 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
Who does he think he is, just because he happens to be part of the royal family does not mean he has a license to be so agressive towards the Argentinian population on the Island.


The Argentine population on the islands?

What Argentine population?

I hope you were being ironic...

This thread is a prime example of the deterioation of the standard on ATS. Years ago, knowingly posting false information could get you banned, spouting racist and bigtotted rubbish would get you warnings..

These days, they let people post any old dog turd as "proof" and a whole swarm of idiots will then take it as gold, further pushing utter bollocks as truth. There is plenty of total bollocks in this thread, from the British killing every Indian in the world, twice, to our inability to re-take the islands.

We didn't slaughter Indians.

The islands are ours, always have been always will be.

We can retake them quite easily, but then again the Argentines have no chance of ever being able to get any troops even close. They cannot perform a "sneak" attack as alluded to earlier in the thread. Such an suggestion is moronic in the extreme. The T-45 and the Astute we have down there is enough to make it impossible.

The Monroe doctrine doesn't apply.

The entire of South America has not got the ability to launch an invasion. Add onto that the fact that Brazil has just signed a defence treaty with the UK and Chile is our chum.

And last but not least, the Islanders want to remain British. Also, I;ve seen people mentioning the English as the evil colonisers. FYI, the islanders are of Scots and Welsh descent, primarily. But I know, it's fashionable to blame the English for all the worlds evils.



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