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Originally posted by TheOneElectric
reply to post by Xcalibur254
Why are you even asking? Whether or not this information is true or not, the Paulbots will come out and defend their messiah until the bitter end. So much like sheep, the hollow men, the 99.99% of society looking for something to fill them with direction and purpose.edit on 2-2-2012 by TheOneElectric because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by danj3ris
I was going to respond to this last night, but my internet went down. It's more than just them talking about Ron Paul in emails. They were talking about setting up meetings with Ron Paul. They were talking about having meetings with Ron Paul. They were talking about how Ron Paul's staff were supporting stuff posted on the site. From one email it sounds like Paul's #2 guy in Illinois actually became a mod for the site. In another they say that his #1 guy in California was actually the chairman of A3P. For all the people doubting the legitimacy of this I ask once again why didn't you doubt them in any of their other operations? Operation Blitzkrieg has been going on for months and have targeted a number of other neo-Nazi websites. Were those all false flag operations as well?
Then there are the alleged conference calls with Jamie Kelso, American Third Position webmaster. Even administrators of affiliated websites have denied it.
I wonder how many people actually decided to research some of these accusations instead of taking the word of "AddictingInfo.org" or the overly dramatic words of the apparent "anonymous" writer as the absolute truth. I wonder if the editors even decided to do any research for themselves, or how much they took as the authoritative truth without so much as questioning anything.
After going through the dump of supposed "incriminating" posts linking Paul to A3P, I daresay I don't actually see anything that ties Ron Paul to any of this other than hearsay. Read it for yourself as I don't expect anyone to believe one person's word over another - http:///MCmzw7aR. I do see references to some members apparently being on "conference calls" with Ron Paul, but the context seems to make it clear that those calls were for anyone to call into, not some closed door racist rants organized only for white members.
There is also a reference to a gentleman saying he would tell Paul that Kelso had a large white following. If that proves racism, I'm sure there are plenty of NAACP and other black leaders that could be quoted saying they have a large "black following" for Obama. Furthermore, to say that because people in a white supremacist forum talk about Ron Paul that that makes him racist is a cut and dry logical fallacy. Going along that reasoning, I'm sure there is a "black panthers" or black supremacist forum somewhere that talks a lot about Obama, so according to that logic Obama is racist against white people. That is categorically untrue, and therefore all arguments using this line of thinking have no grounds to stand on.
The post from the "anon" also makes another questionable association by saying that A3P is "even running a candidate in the 2012 elections" which connects the dots for the uneducated and uninformed reader by later making the Ron Paul accusations and making people think that Paul is that candidate. What this article and the anon fail to inform the reader of is that this 2012 presidential candidate that they are supporting is actually a guy named Merlin Miller. Why would this racist group support a different candidate if Ron Paul is one of them? The answer is because he isn't. If you look through the pastebin, you'll actually find a few posts talking about how Ron Paul's views about releasing blacks from prison is a "losing strategy" and is a reason why they would no longer support his campaign.
What I really wish is that news sources would stick to reporting the news and not let their personal bias get in the way. I'm all for the truth too, but sensationalism and lies is not the way to get things done. What makes me sad is to see how many people are eating this up without so much as even questioning the info presented to them. I congratulate all of you that visit this site for making the first step towards truth by trying to get your news from alternative sources, but you need to take the next step and keep finding out the truth for yourself, otherwise your blind faith has just been transferred from one corrupt medium (mass media) to another (this site for example). Seeing as how this post comes from someone whose Twitter name is @FilthyLbrlScum , I wouldn't expect any sort of critical thinking about any candidate other than Obama, or should we start calling him ObaNDAA.
Subject: You've got an admirer in Imbar
Date: Nov Mon 2009
To: Alexander Hamilton (email@example.com)
From: Jamie Kelso (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Hello Alexander, Hey, great posting. Imbar just called me and he likes your
stuff too. Imbar is Ron Paul's #2 man in Illinois. Owns his own manufacturing
company. Young guy like you. Jeff (Imbar) and I have been buddies for years. We
met up with Ron Paul in Ames, Iowa in Aug. 2007. Nice work, Jamie
A couple of my buddies are among those dozen.
"Knucklehead" is my buddy and Sr. Mod named Imbar on WhiteNewsNow. He's also Ron
Paul's #2 man in Illinois, in Chicago, where he is a manufacturer. His name is
Jeff. You'll meet him. He's coming to AmRen to help us distribute A3P materials
to the 300 attendees.
Subject: Re: Hey it's there!
Date: Jan Mon 2010
To: Jamie Kelso (email@example.com)
From: Patriot Cause (firstname.lastname@example.org)
[quote=Jamie Kelso]Hello HF, Cool. We had a great meeting in Orange County last
night, at which I was asked by the Chairman of the American Third Position party
to take on the work of his personal assistant. Bill Johnson is the Chairman, and
a good friend. He has been Ron Paul's top man in Southern Calif. for the last 3