I Was Arrested At Occupy Oakland Yesterday

wow, glad you were alright Memoryshock. The winds of change are coming, I just wonder if true and total civil unrest will somehow manifest after the next elections. Something wicked is brewing, or it just seems like all the points are converging towards a single event in the future, one that will affect all willingly, or not.

Originally posted by ANOK
www.worldsocialism.org...

Artificial scarcity in a world of overproduction: an ecape that isn't

I agree in terms of the definition of artificial scarcity, ANOK; but other than that, I am not a supporter of socialism, in terms of the institutionalised "ism," which it has currently become.

Primarily, I passionately oppose internationalism in literally any form, for the primary reason that I have long observed that the social and economic success of any given country or region, is inversely proportional to its' size. I also will not condone the existence of any legislative body that makes binding decisions for anybody who is not physically present in the room, when said decision is made.

The siren song of internationalism also represents the single main sense in which the Masonic/psychopathic/Luciferian cabal has hijacked egalitarianism; they insist on a singular global government, as part of their aim to create a form of tyranny that cannot be escaped from. The cabal did not invent the core instinct and desire behind socialism, no; but they have invented virtually every element of the ideology which they have superimposed over it. Karl Marx was not a friend of humanity, contrary to what many believe; he was one of them, if not visibly.

Originally posted by k1k1to
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

the occupy movement is still going on? i thought it ended a couple of weeks ago...whats the point really?...it never accomplished anything, and just proved that kids now-a-days are lazy and dont want a job that requires hard work and a little elbow grease...

i'm going to take issue with this. growing up, practically everyone's parents for the last generation have said "if you don't want to flip burgers for the rest of your life, you better get a degree". but now as so many of us have worked hard for what we know, we're called "entitled assholes" because we want a better paying job than a highschool dropout.

as they show us how much they "value" our freedom to peaceably assemble, we'll show them what it means to pick a fight with the 99%.

Show the pigs a lesson in my opinion. Use as much force as they show us. They're not police anymore. They're just private security for the elitist traitors.

reply to post by DestroyDestroyDestroy

As for the burning of the flag in city hall; it symbolizes disgust with the government, which people have every right to have considering congress is at an 11% approval rating.

I suggest that those people move to Afghanistan or Iran or any other country where that kind of behavior and disapproval for their fellow man is acceptable.

reply to post by COconspiracyguy


Nah, this lot has no stomach for violence. Whining, causing property damage, sure, but actual fighting-----not a chance.

reply to post by ChuckNasty

People forget to mention the fact that their is a difference between a peaceful protest and a legal one.

Far too many People forget to mention the fact that what is legal is not necessarily lawful. What difference does it make if it is legal but unlawful? Insisting that a right must be permitted is oxymoronic, and therein lies the mysticism of the priest class lawyer sect and their adherents. The mystics want us to believe that we can only do what we have a right to do if we get permission to do it first.

Sure you will mention the Constitution - but the constitution also says we can bear arms (or something to that matter)

No it doesn't say that "we can bear arms" it says the federal government cannot infringe upon the right of the People to keep and bear arms.

As for the peaceful protesters - next time do the paperwork for your assembly.

In triplicate, and bow down the the vaunted bureaucrat!

Obey the written law and if you are wronged, then you have a case. Otherwise, you are just like a criminal that is doing nothing but interfering with traffic.

Legislation is not law any more than a map is the territory, a word the thing defined, or a picture of Halle Berry actually Halle Barry, but don't let me get in the way of you and your picture girlfriend while you bow down to the priest class sect in awe and amazement. Sheesh. Some people.

But no matter the law

Yep, this in a nutshell is your philosophy only to be more clear it is clear that for you the law no matter.

SnF OP. You're amoung a vast network of members who possess the cahounnies to do as you have done.

A free man you are.

hm, video removed by the user....

how interesting.

Thank for sharing your experience.

All you guys are doing is making things worse. Camping out on public property cussing at police is not the brightest idea im glad you guys get shot with tear gas... Maybe a few of you can go find jobs and buy some of your own property to occupy.

Originally posted by dayve
All you guys are doing is making things worse. Camping out on public property cussing at police is not the brightest idea im glad you guys get shot with tear gas... Maybe a few of you can go find jobs and buy some of your own property to occupy.

This may come as a surprise to you but when campers go camping it is generally on public property. Maybe you can rejoice when the cops go to tear gas campers for camping in Yellowstone Park, which is public property. Maybe you can dance in the streets, (public streets), when cops go to tear gas people for camping in the Redwood Forest, yet another public property. Or maybe you can lay off whatever gas your inhaling and get a clue.

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by yourboycal2

 

truth is these guys are the ones who understand enough of whats going on to try and make a lawful change.

Hardly, most of these occupy clowns have no idea the cause they are fight for, no unified ideal. It makes there protest worthless.

Besides most of the time the police don't bother with protester unless they are breaking the law, which these where. They where blocking the right of way of pedestrian traffic, which is is against the law. They where asked to move, and they refused...what did you expect, lollipops and cotton candy?

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

The video looks a lot like the egypt protests save the fact that in those they used live rounds. The problem here is that the protestors looked prepared for a fight and that just invites the kind of treatment they got from the police.

That is exactly what they are doing, it is not about the protest at this point. It is about a bunch of hippie wannabes causing problems.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by dayve
All you guys are doing is making things worse. Camping out on public property cussing at police is not the brightest idea im glad you guys get shot with tear gas... Maybe a few of you can go find jobs and buy some of your own property to occupy.

This may come as a surprise to you but when campers go camping it is generally on public property. Maybe you can rejoice when the cops go to tear gas campers for camping in Yellowstone Park, which is public property. Maybe you can dance in the streets, (public streets), when cops go to tear gas people for camping in the Redwood Forest, yet another public property. Or maybe you can lay off whatever gas your inhaling and get a clue.

Yes campers generally camp in public property, but not on public property that has exclusive laws against camping.

Most camping is done in "camp grounds" imagine that, and public city parks are not concidered camp grounds and never have been.

Valiant attempt to twist the facts but you fail.

What really bothers me about the actions of the police in general, is that Americans have the RIGHT to peaceful assembly, in ANY PUBLIC area. No one, not even the government, can tell you that you must have permission, or a permit, to protest in a public place.

That is akin to saying that you need a permit to exercise your Constitutional right to peaceably assembly. A permit implies that one needs permission, and should only apply to those doing something considered a privilege, which protesting most definitely is NOT. We do not protest because the current administration or the police give us the privilege, but rather because our Founding Fathers gave us the Constitutional RIGHT.

With that said, I am sorry you were arrested, and hopefully in the future the people can take back our government, restoring it to its former glory.

I live in the East Bay as well. If some guerilla warfare groups started getting organized, i'd be down to join up. Just dont understand why the movement doesnt pitch $5 each for gas and take buses to Washington D.C and Occupy the White House. That would kick things off.
(on another note: BY LAW=California has to add fouride to drinking water...while most of Europe has already come to the realization that flouride is not-healthy, and stopped it from being added their water)

reply to post by mileysubet

Yes campers generally camp in public property, but not on public property that has exclusive laws against camping.

Given that this thread is in regards to Oakland, California it is best we look to the Supreme Law of that State, their Constitution.

SECTION 1.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

California State Constitution, Article I, Declaration of Rights, Section 1

This declaration of rights may not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people.

Section 24

Of course, you have no regard for that law, do you? You praise the city ordinance as being "exclusive law".

Most camping is done in "camp grounds" imagine that, and public city parks are not concidered camp grounds and never have been.

If it is public property this property belongs to the public. If some protestors want to camp in a public park, and as long as this camping causes no harm to others, then you are way of base with your smug prudishness. It is a mistake to think you can lecture me and many others in this site on the law. Your petty little ordinances, if they are unlawful, are just more acts of criminality perpetrated by government, but you being a sycophant of that, maybe you can erroneously lecture me on how this is a democracy and the majority gets to decide which rights will be pissed on.

Originally posted by COconspiracyguy
Very interesting account. Thanks for taking the time to share it...

As we slip down the slippery slope of losing what sets America apart
from the rest of the world, ie the Constitution, keep these word in mind.

The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If we lose this, we go back 200 yrs, and all those lives and blood given in the name of freedom will be forever lost...

Something worth fighting for, in my opinion...

I agree. While a lot of these 'occupy' protesters are indeed ignorant, lazy bums with their hand out looking for a free ride because they feel somehow slighted that they aren't wealthy, they still have a right to protest peacefully.

However, when push comes to shove and the real protesting begins - the kind with force against force - the vast majority of these knuckleheads will be cowering in their jammies while the rest of us restore the constitution.

from peaceful to now damaging property, humm , makes me think of this , OWS is now a violent group must be dealt with ,now there is law to go too effect by march NDAA2012.Person sits on side lines, is now part of the mix?? His only words "do no harm" to the LEO's or protesters makes no diff still got night in jail.
The LEO's made the choice for him, your there your going down, seems as if there will be no side lines in this one if you there your part of it, will you still be here or will you be a guest at Git Mo?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by purplemer

 

Yes and the only thing Occupy can possibly achieve is ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.

There is nothing wrong with a one world government. I don't understand why we still have imaginary lines in the dirt, and we still fight and kill over natural resources. I don't understand why people differentiate from one another because of their physical location. I find that pathetic.