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You can spin it that way but rest assured that Israel would be dust. Not going to happen and if it did Israel would be feeling a military wrath unlike any before.
To generate anti-Israel sentiment. Perhaps it's his own agenda, or maybe he's working with another group which seeks to demonize Israel. Either way, I don't think he needs a financial incentive to demonize Israel, as it's most probably an ideological feeling he has.
Very often the people who demonize Israel are themselves Jews. Almost every single book to date which has suggested a controversial alternative history of either Jewish Ashkenazic origin, or Zionism's history in Israel, has been written by a Jew. Examples of the former being Arthur Koestler (the 13th tribe, which argues that Ashkenazic Jewry derives from the Kazhars, a 8th century eastern european kingdom) Shlomo Sands etc. With the latter you have Israel 'revisionist' historians, led by Benny Morris, Ilan Pappé etc..
It's a local Jewish newspaper from Atlanta. Do you think he's really seeking increased circulation? Are there 'competing' Jewish newspapers in the city of Atlanta? Probably not.
The only word that truly captures the essence of what he did is Chutzpah. This is a perfect example of it.
And what about the obvious fact of suggesting that in an American newspaper. Say Obama did get assassinated. EVERYONE would then know that Israel was behind it! And this in turn would be the catalyst for further anti-Israel sentiment, not to mention antisemitism, in both America and abroad.
What IF it did happen (God forbid!) and Israel was'nt behind it at all but is accused of it based upon an article in a small insignificant Jewish newspaper ???
This certainly is playing in the hands of all the anti-semites......perhaps that was the goal?
Now this guy is different. He isn't claiming to be outing an Israeli ploy, thinking or any such thing. He is suggesting something that places him amongst the "vile Jews". Had he been an Israeli Jew there wouldn't be much of a contradiction. Had he been claiming to be revealing an Israeli plan, that too would make sense. What doesn't make sense is his generating the antipathy towards himself while attempting to do that against Israel.
I am not sure. Let us say some get the idea that he is reflecting what the Israeli elite or Mossad are considering and they are actually "revealing" their thoughts through this guy. After all if Israel does have such plans, wouldn't this be the best way for them to threaten Obama without being connected to it in anyway?
Wouldn't that increase the circulation for the paper amongst everyone including non-Jews and those not living in Atlanta in the hopes of their getting a headsup on what Israel and Mossad are thinking?
Exactly. So either he is completely stupid, intends to exploit the notoriety for financial benefit (these are tough times) or is a revelation channel for what Israel/Mossad are thinking. Take your pick. I am inclined towards the second option, financial benefit because of being suspected of the third option
Originally posted by Flint2011
Still a bunch of spin and speculation. The process of elimination and singling out of one Nation to suit your take on these matters is subjective and baseless in absolute facts. Just conjecture based in conspiracy theories. I mean no disrespect but the rationality is greatly lacking. You are free to think what you will but I am not buying what you are selling.
Very often there are people who are willing to 'bite the bullet' and accept the negative consequences of a situation they deliberately put themselves into to affect a political or personal agenda.
I don't think so. Why a public warning? Wouldn't you think that makes Israel vulnerable? When Israel/Mossad kills nuclear scientists, do they broadcast that before they do it? Or do they do it and then deny it, as all normal countries do?
There's a certain need for discretion, I would imagine, for things of this nature. And the less it's spoken of the better. Obama knows where he is at.
That's a lot of assumptions.
Jewish newspapers typically cover Jewish subjects, things that are totally uninteresting or irrelevant to non-Jews. Also, I don't think the general public has the sagacity to think as you do. In general, this is seen as a "slip up", and not a leak by the mossad into an American Newspaper.
The owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times has resigned and is seeking a buyer in the wake of a column he wrote speculating that Israel would consider assassinating US President Barack Obama.
Andrew Adler, in an email obtained by JTA, announced Monday that he is "relinquishing all day-to-day activities effective immediately" following the publishing of his opinion piece saying that Obama's assassination was among Israel's options in heading off a nuclear Iran.
"While we acknowledge his public apology and remorse, the damage done to the people of Israel, the global Jewish people, and especially the Jewish Community of Atlanta is irreparable," the Atlanta federation said in a statement issued Monday to constituent groups.
The Anti-Defamation League and the National Jewish Democratic Council also condemned Adler for his column. David Harris, executive director of the American Jewish Committee, also called on Adler to resign from the newspaper.
CNN reported that the Secret Service is investigating Adler over the column.
That is consistent and plausible. So you are positing that he is an anti-Zionist Jew, posing as a Zionist Jew, sacrificing his interests for the cause, anti-Zionism, he believes in.
“As I looked around me for a worthy cause, I ran into difficulties. I did not belong to any special community… I never quite became an American. I had left Hungary behind and my Jewishness did not express itself in a sense of tribal loyalty that would have led me to support Israel.”
- Soros, Underwriting Democracy: Encouraging free enterprise and democratic reform among the soviets and in eastern Europe, 3-4
If the objective is to kill Obama it would be silly to announce it in any way. However, if the objective is a change in policy, the "warning" is part of a negotiation process.
It is the latter category who could become the new subscribers for the paper
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by xuenchen
But I still feel a bit curious. How could he be so stupid to write that article and not perceive what the consequences would be???
You know what would be funny? If he already had another job lined up somewhere else, and already intended to leave his post as editor for the Jewish Atlanta newspaper. That way he could start a raucous before leaving, achieve a political end (incite a perspective i.e. anti-zionism) and then go to his new job...
You never know... Man is a wily creature.edit on 23-1-2012 by dontreally because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dontreally
I don't believe it. You do because you already have your mind made up about Israel, and this article suits your political bias.
A similar situation prevails in Israel, but it's referred to as 'post-zionism'. These Jews make no qualms about what their desire is: the dismantlement of the state of Israel in favor of a truly 'democratic' state which advertizes itself neither as Jewish or Arab.
However, if you look at other Arab countries in the greater middle east, it's patently clear that there can be no dominant culture other than Arab.
But why a Public warning? A warning means nothing if the threat isn't very real, meaning, that the threat wouldn't be followed through. And what then?
That would merely galvanize greater anti-Israel sentiment if America balked Israels demands and Israel decided to kill Obama.
I don't think Obama needs to be warned through a local Jewish Atlanta paper to "get the message". Such a message can be sent many other ways.
Do you plan on getting a subscription? No? If not, then I don't think your argument carries much weight.
It is a well know fact, that the current admin of Israel are not fond of Obama.
You as usual , try to clean up the mess.
Palestinians have long accepted that the Jews are there to stay.
o if Israeli Jews are ready for a secular non-racist state, Palestinians are
Extremist Palestinians hold popularity only because of Zionism, which makes them second class people in their own land.