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Fact of the matter is, the allies of the US could not stand alone. They need the US, just as the US needs them for support. If it was easy for Russia/China to take out the US, they could do so and not have to worry about retaliation. Russia and China have the second and third largest military in the world. They would not have to fear much retaliation from the likes of the UK and other tiny allies.
Originally posted by yourmaker
wow...before we entirely believe this lets look at a few clues as to whjy Moscow would say such a thing
SCO - "Shanghai Cooperation Organisation" is an intergovernmental mutual-security organisation which was founded in 2001 in Shanghai by the leaders of China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.
Iran is an observor state. BUT, the SCO stated that any country under U.N. sanctions cannot be admitted.
interesting.
another idea is that the US is rapidly encroaching towards mainland Russia, having invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, instigated social unrest in Tunisia and Egypt, drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, naval skirmishes off Somalia, heightened tensions in the Black Sea from the South Ossetia conflict (which Russia knows that Georgia launched that attack on behalf of the US) and now Syria and Iran.
is it any wonder actually? lol..
Originally posted by munkey66
reply to post by Fractured.Facade
What I don't see is Iran running around starting conflicts around the globe to usher in this end time scenario, Christians also have a belief that Jesus will return during times of global conflict,
So please remind me again which are the mad men?
Originally posted by rigel4
Originally posted by michael1983l
Russia can huff and Russia can puff but it won't be able to blow the house down. Russia is massive yet its Military budget is smaller than the UK's. They do not have enough forces to be offensive outside bullying a country like Georgia. If it came to it NATO could take Russia out along with Syria and Iran.
Nothing personal here, but your way of thinking is dangerous I think! They don't need to have superiour
conventional forces, They have loads and loads of huge Nukes.
Now are we to gamble the life of millions and millions of people, that they will back down and not
get involved.
They backed down over the Cuban missile crisis, they were in wrong then, I ,personally don't think they are in the wrong this time.
It's about time America backed down for once. As for Israel i have come to loathe that little maggot country.
If there were no Israel the world would be a far healthier place.
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Originally posted by superman2012
Good. It's about time Russia stepped in to stop this nonsense. I can't believe that Russia is the voice of reason. No way is the US going to attack now, our only hope is that they will not be stupid enough to be drawn in if Israel attacks first. If Iran attacks first (which it hasn't yet under massive provocation) than I hope Russia doesn't back them. Either way, I hope this isn't a nuclear war.
“Once KGB always KGB”…… Vladimir Putin.
As of June 27, 2010 the FBI in the US apprehended 10 alleged Russian spies, an eleventh alleged spy was apprehended on behalf of the FBI in Cyprus but managed to skip bail and disappeared. Several of those arrested have to date confessed of being Russian citizens and or, working for “today’s” KGB. Further investigations are in progress
During a press interview with President Putin, a reporter referred to his career as an ex KGB agent, Putin laughed and said there is no such a thing as an ex KGB, “Once KGB always KGB”.
Furthermore, subsequently Putin repeatedly declared publicly that “the collapse of the Soviet Union was tragically the world’s greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century”. At least the man never hid his nostalgia for the Evil Empire, (“OOPS”, Freudian slip), the Soviet Union. Apparently Putin’s statements were largely ignored by the US as well as Europe with the exception of the Poles, Czechs, Estonians, etc. i.e. all those who had a close up taste of the Evil Empire.
In November 2008 Russian President Dmitri Medvedev visited Chavez in Venezuela as well as Raoul and Fidel Castro signing agreements for economic and military cooperation. Could it be that this is part of Putin’s nostalgia for the Soviet Union’s 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.
Originally posted by rigel4
Originally posted by blackmirage0311
reply to post by Tw0Sides
Those subs are not a threat.
Could you explain to us why the a "Typhoon class" SSBN is not a threat.
Armament: 1 × 9K38 Igla SAM
2 × 650 mm (26 in) torpedo tubes
• RPK-7 Vodopad AShMs
• Type 65K torpedoes
4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
• RPK-2 Viyuga cruise missiles
• Type 53 torpedoes[2]
D-19 launch system
• 20 × RSM-52 SLBMs
Notes: Ships in class include: TK-208[3] TK-202 TK-12[4] TK-13 TK-17[5] TK-20[6] TK-210
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