NASA Officially confirms: Cold Fusion(LENR) is REAL

Lol, nice sources. A video explaining the concept and two blogs.

Originally posted by consciousgod
Free energy has been available for a while now and it makes perfect sense to those with the intelligence to understand it. The powers that be have been keeping it out of the main stream for obvious reasons. It's a game changer.

Water flows downhill because of gravity... They knew this in Medieval times so they placed a water wheel in the stream to turn their mills... this was free energy...

Today we use those same water wheels to turn a bunch of copper wires withing a magnetic field and we get electricity. This is also free energy

You pay for someone to make the collectors and the power lines and the devices to use that energy...

Whether the 'free energy' is supplied by the ether, or 'over unity', you will still have the same problems ie. someone to make the collectors and the power lines and the devices to use that energy..

Tesla's wireless power still required generators, transmission towers and receivers to collect the power... then converters to make it useable in home devices. That is why the idea was scraped no incentive to create the system if you can't get your development costs back

Originally posted by DocEmrick
Lol, nice sources. A video explaining the concept and two blogs.

Welcome to ATS Herr Clown... now try at least showing some real intelligence and READ THE THREAD




For those that DO take the time to read

Experimental Evidence for LENR in a Polarized Pd/D Lattice - S. Szpak, P.A. Mosier-Boss and F.E. Gordon
SPAWAR Systems Center San Diego - NDIA 2006 Naval S&T Partnership Conference
Washington, DC

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by consciousgod
Free energy has been available for a while now and it makes perfect sense to those with the intelligence to understand it. The powers that be have been keeping it out of the main stream for obvious reasons. It's a game changer.

Water flows downhill because of gravity... They knew this in Medieval times so they placed a water wheel in the stream to turn their mills... this was free energy...

Today we use those same water wheels to turn a bunch of copper wires withing a magnetic field and we get electricity. This is also free energy

You pay for someone to make the collectors and the power lines and the devices to use that energy...

Whether the 'free energy' is supplied by the ether, or 'over unity', you will still have the same problems ie. someone to make the collectors and the power lines and the devices to use that energy..

Tesla's wireless power still required generators, transmission towers and receivers to collect the power... then converters to make it useable in home devices. That is why the idea was scraped no incentive to create the system if you can't get your development costs back

I agree except that Telsa had wireless DC power in the 1890s. His backer JP Morgan, couldn't meter the power because all people has to do to complete the circuit was ground their electrical device.

JP Morgan told Tesla to invent something that can be metered to provide residual income to JP. That's when he invented alternating current and the power grid that has enslaved us all. We all pay every month our entire lives to the tyrants.

When we buy a house we have to pay for all the wires, and the power drop as an initial investment, then pay the power company every month. With this new power source, their is a startup cost, BUT NO power company to pay each month. This makes us free slaves, free of monthly payments. Now we just have a little maintenance and from what I have read on Lutec, this machine is very cheap to operate.

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No I've never heard of Rossi E-cat. Perhaps adding a bit of context in your OP would be helpful to those uninformed.

Please put one of those cold fusion devices in my car. I hate supporting big oil.

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“THEY” have had this technology in working devices for years and now deem it timely for controlled release to the public. Mesh this “release” with the growing implications of the SETI and Kepler estimates of planets in the Milky Way (100+ BILLION) with over 100 billion galaxies in the “known” universe, and one senses a snowball a’rollin…toward Disclosure that non-earth life has been found (read: was found some time ago). In 2 years, EBE will be old news and on prime time shows interviewed by CNN.

Originally posted by AaronWilson
Rossi was like a crazy mad scientist. He knew bare minimum in physics and very little in chemistry. Yet he created cold fusion.

Go figure.

Always the way, creative thinkers to have the ability to do stuff like this. You hear many stories of back yard engineers coming with ingenious solutions.

Originally posted by NeoVain
As i have gotten some requests on scientific papers, i have supplied some below, as well as some letters.

Robertson Analysis

Robertson Charts

Robertson 3 part

Higgins Analysis

Higgins test

Rothwell conclusion

Stemmeros letter

Xanthoulis

edit on 13-1-2012 by NeoVain because: (no reason given)

Number 1. Those aren't peer reviewed papers.

Number 2. The request for scientific papers was regarding NASA and LENR.

I find it quite interesting... A 3rd biggest oil provider is spitting the dummy (Iran) and now Nasa recognise LENR.
I don't believe in coincidences.....

Originally posted by SavedOne

Originally posted by Arken
THE OIL CARTEL ERA IS OVER!

You think? Here's a list of SOME (around 150 from a list of 6000) of the things made from petroleum products, go through it and ask yourself which of these products can be made from cold fusion instead of oil:

Solvents Diesel fuel Motor Oil Bearing Grease
Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery
Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies
Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags
Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher parts Tool Boxes Shoe Polish
Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player
Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives
Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines
Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant
Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant
Percolators Life Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis
TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician's Tape Tool Racks
Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks
Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers
Hair Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick
Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber
Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin
Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots
Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint
Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards
Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains
Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses
Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses
Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs
CD's & DVD's Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers
Balloons Sun Glasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons
Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes
Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages
Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers
Cold cream Movie film Soft Contact lenses Drinking Cups
Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia
Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline

All of this can be made from plants, hemp and not even in good farm land, but underground, even plants that create slurries, and perhaps rather than food, this would be a good use for GMO.

Not to mention crystals and crystal seeds and GMO manipulation.

Oops, thats already been done.


2010 Mercedes Benz Biome Concept

We truly don't need oil, nor do we need GMO for normal foods and herbal medicines, just for industry, if done by citizen panels who should be involved in everything, grass roots oversight panels.

Originally posted by AaronWilson
Rossi was like a crazy mad scientist. He knew bare minimum in physics and very little in chemistry. Yet he created cold fusion.

Go figure.

The amateur inventor,a proud tradition.

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Hello consciousgod,

Tesla never had wireless DC. Tesla invented AC motors, generators and transformers.

Edison hired him to improve his (Edison's) DC generators and promised him $25,000. When he completed the task, Edison did not pay him and told him it was a joke and he did not understand the American sense of humor. Rip off #1 for poor Nikola. He promptly quit and did manual labor digging ditches to bury Edison's DC cables for about a year.

Westinghouse then hired him and started Westinghouse Electric Co. and paid him $1 Million for his patents.
It goes on and on......

Westinghouse supposedly cheated him for what would be today about $1 Trillion dollars when Tesla ripped up the "contract" that stated Westinghouse was to pay him $2.50 for every HP that was generated by Tesla's AC machines.

Then there was the "War of the Currents", i.e: DC (Edison) vs. AC (Tesla). Again, another long story.

Tesla then went on to invent High Frequency machines, "Tesla Coil", the first radio patent (NOT Marconi), the first RC boat, energy weapons and various other HF devices.

There is a really good biographical documentary: "Tesla, Master of Lightning"
I show this to my students in the Transformer, Generator and Electrical Fundamentals courses.



(BTW, I have 25 years as a Field Engineer with GE and am now a Consultant here in the UAE)

But on TOPIC...it would be great to see this "Cold Fusion" concept become available but it too will probably go the way of Tesla's wireless power transmission (Star Wars and H.A.A.R.P.) ideas because it would not make any money for the power, oil and nuke companies and TPTB!

Have a great day and 73's,
Tom

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
V for Victory
victory for conspiracy theorists!
& victory for the "believers" that kept believing in spite of irrational "skeptic" harassment!

this sort of victory will be happening a LOT more in 2012 & after.

+ victory for the fallen scientists that have been killed/harmed because of their knowledge of Cold Fusion.

Amen


This is incredible news, *scurry's for more info*

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Energy does not come "from nothing"...it can only be transformed.

This is an ELEMENTARY principle.

There are 2 other "whales" of science, but perhaps they should be relegated to dinosaurs and extinction ,such as the Speed of Light and isotopy. In all 3, Data in physics and astrophysics, has already contradicted them. They're not valid, false altars for false postulates. But they have priests worshipping at them, who for some reason can ignore data and call contradictory data, mysteries, seems more like a Church than a religion.

Just as a side note, the whole universe appearing as a singularity, out of nothing violates this precept, yet both are maintained.


physics.nist.gov...

In late 1956, experiments at the National Bureau of Standards (NBS, now NIST) demonstrated that the quantum mechanical law of conservation of parity does not hold in the beta decay of cobalt-60 nuclei.1 This result, together with experiments on parity conservation in µ-meson decay at Columbia University, shattered a fundamental concept of nuclear physics that had been universally accepted for the previous 30 years. It thus cleared the way for a reconsideration of physical theories and led to new, far-reaching discoveries regarding the nature of matter and the universe.

Well, not yet... we're still waiting.


www.encyclopedia.com...

Tsung-Dao Lee

Tsung-Dao Lee (born 1962) disproved the principle of parity.

Tsung-Dao Lee and his colleague physicist Chen Ning Yang developed the revolutionary theory that the unusual behavior of the K-meson (a subatomic particle) is a result of its violating a supposedly inviolable law of nature, conservation of parity, which defines the basic symmetry of nature. A few months after their theory had been announced, fellow physicist Chien-Shiung Wu obtained experimental confirmation of their remarkable discovery. For their work, Lee and Yang were awarded the 1957 Nobel Prize in physics.

www.nature.com...

Particles break light-speed limit

I read somewhere they said earth would become a black hole if their experiments broke the speed of light, well it didn't and that postualte is a dinosaur.

Oh maybe they an apply a patch, make up something and then do some exotic mind game math and create an illusion like "dark" matter to solve all of this.

We have lots of theories, and there is Data that contradicts them, but they never seem to go back to the drawing board.

Wonder why?

Who benefits from the lies?

Not humanity as a whole, thats for sure,nor our planet and its well being.

www.orgonelab.org...

Dayton Miller's Ether-Drift
Experiments: A Fresh Look*

by James DeMeo, Ph.D.

...

Dayton Miller's 1933 paper in Reviews of Modern Physics details the positive results from over 20 years of experimental research into the question of ether-drift, and remains the most definitive body of work on the subject of light-beam interferometry. Other positive ether-detection experiments have been undertaken, such as the work of Sagnac (1913) and Michelson and Gale (1925), documenting the existence in light-speed variations (c+v > c-v), but these were not adequately constructed for detection of a larger cosmological ether-drift, of the Earth and Solar System moving through the background of space. Dayton Miller's work on ether-drift was so constructed, however, and yielded consistently positive results.....

While Miller had a rough time convincing some of his contemporaries about the reality of his ether-measurements, he clearly could not be ignored in this regard. As a graduate of physics from Princeton University, President of the American Physical Society and Acoustical Society of America, Chairman of the Division of Physical Sciences of the National Research Council, Chairman of the Physics Department of Case School of Applied Science (today Case Western Reserve University), and Member of the National Academy of Sciences well known for his work in acoustics, Miller was no "outsider". While he was alive, he produced a series of papers presenting solid data on the existence of a measurable ether-drift, and he successfully defended his findings to not a small number of critics, including Einstein. His work employed light-beam interferometers of the same type used by Michelson-Morley, but of a more sensitive construction, with a significantly longer light-beam path. He periodically took the device high atop Mt. Wilson (above 6,000' elevation), where Earth-entrained ether-theory predicted the ether would move at a faster speed than close to sea-level. While he was alive, Miller's work could not be fundamentally undermined by the critics. However, towards the end of his life, he was subject to isolation as his ether-measurements were simply ignored by the larger world of physics, then captivated by Einstein's relativity theory.

The result was Einstein, who worked in a patent office and was not even the creator of the theories attributed to him, gained fame, and one of the truly great physcists who accomplished pain staking work and findings over a long period of time, was forgotten.

Mistake in the path taken? Hardly. Dayton sent his documents to Einstein.

We're living Scientific Fraud and the world has been nearly brought to the brink of destruction with countless casualties and wars, for the elect few.

Originally posted by Raelsatu
For all you naysayers, I've been following Rossi's E-cat since the first news of it leaked out. At first I was optimistic, still has some doubts, but after months of updates & many independent sources/Unis reviewing of the device, it seems to be the real deal. I remember arguing with Boncho about it back when, and he was convinced it was another sham by Rossi, instantly discrediting it and saying there was no possible way.

Only a number of months later. He's now manufacturing 1 million home unit E-Cats and they will go up for sale this Fall, possibly even earlier if he sets the timeline back. So you really think he came this entire way & is going to manufacture a million units, all part of a hoax??? The chances of it being a hoax at this point is nil.

No that's not true. It will be proven not to be a hoax after the 1 million units are actually manufactured and sold and tested independently. It may still be proven to be a mistake then, but probably not a hoax assuming that Rossi loses lots of money if they fail to work.

I can only hope there isn't some "accident", turning out to be the "failure" of Rossi's invention & the device schemes being "lost". Tbtb can kiss my ass.

Well, they're looking at Iran and Hugo Chavez right now and ThePowersThatBe are getting pretty uncomfortable that tinpot quasidictators get to dictate to them these days, instead of the other way around. And that's because most of the planet's remaining petroleum is unavailable to international business.

In any case, liquid fuel is still needed for transportation and this does nothing for that. At best it is competition for natural gas, but natural gas is very cheap (for the next 25-30 years) thanks to the development of fracking.

I've heard somebody describe burning petroleum for heat & transportation is like burning your Picasso in the fireplace on a cold night. It's so much more valuable for other uses.

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Not so fast there big guy, don't park your car just yet. It's a long way from theoretical to commercial. Probably decades

Will this see nickel (and hydrogen) prices rise substantially?

might be decent to look into investing..

gonna go sit on the hopeful fence over there...its a familiar seat really, been on it for many a ground breaking techs that never panned out.

So, cynical of it ever being more than a rumor, some conjecture, and ultimately dismissed...but who knows, perhaps I will be amazed come the end of the year as the article suggests.