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International Space Mapping of Lake Vostok Overridden by NSA

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posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 06:41 PM
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Skeptics argue that these apparent effects could result from anomalies
in local mass density, such as a hidden lode of metal ore. The
Greenland group, led by Mark E. Ander of the Los Alamos National
Laboratory and Mark A. Zumberge of the University of California at San
Diego, therefore chose a highly homogeneous site: a borehole
surrounded by a two-kilometer-thick expanse of ice. The team took
elaborate precautions: the bedrock was mapped by 42,000 high-frequency
radar scans, and careful surveys determined the height of the ice
surface to within a centimeter. A gravimeter took more than 100
readings at half a dozen locations, at depths of between 200 and 1,600
meters.




posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by David
Maybe you should call the USGS and ask them what exactly is going on...it would be good for a laugh anyway



Hrmm...maybe they're building a massive dump to put all the democrats in


How about just ALL politicians and be done with it?

I'm still formulating my own theory on this whole thing, hence my silence on a topic I'd normally jump right into.

*thoughtful*
-B.



posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 06:45 PM
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David,

If thats the case, lets ship all the drilling equipment in the world down there to hurry em up! We can start with the AWOL deserter dems from Texas hold up in New Mexico.



posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 06:46 PM
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Yeah, i also have run out of idea's.

Maybe they're just drilling to see whats there, we dont always need a 200 page reason.



posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by dragonrider
David,

If thats the case, lets ship all the drilling equipment in the world down there to hurry em up! We can start with the AWOL deserter dems from Texas hold up in New Mexico.



You better run, because i'm coming after you with lots of sharp and deadly instruments.

Go democrats!



posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 08:34 PM
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. "Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye."
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)



posted on Jul, 29 2003 @ 08:42 PM
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damn!
I am always getting sucked in like that, still that little blue guy in the shorts looks pretty strange...

Originally posted by dragonrider
Netchicken,

That is likely a true picture of a tunnelling machine being used to excavate a Phase II bunker, although the US Space Force emblem is likely a photoshop construct.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 07:31 AM
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BWAHAHAHA
I didn't even see that before!!!
That's funny as hell



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 08:18 AM
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I just found these articles of interest:

"What is happening at the South Pole"
www.enterprisemission.com...

"South Pole Update" (2003)
www.enterprisemission.com...


regards
seekerof



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 09:06 AM
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Seekerof, great articles!



aslwww.cr.usgs.gov...

Palmer Station shows the drilling/tunnelling signature to still be going strong for well over 50 hours straight. They must really be after something important...

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by dragonrider]



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 09:38 AM
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Also found this article of less significance but may still hold some information to this topic.

www.70south.com...


In my searchings for more info. on this subject, I have continually found info. commenting on the "large, mysterious anomaly" present in the Lake Vostok area. Also mentions of micro-organisms being located approxly. 2 miles down in the regions of the "prestine waters" of the lake. I also found a report filed by the Russians to the Security Council of the UN claiming/suspecting the US being behind some 'seismac event(s)' in Antarctica. The article was dated in 2001. This article further claims that a few hours after the Russians detected this "seismic event," a 183x22 mile long piece of ice broke off from the Ross Ice Shelf! hehe.

lantis.tv...


I think that what you are noticing DR is very significant because, again, through my search for more info. on this topic.......everything I found mentioning seismic activity in Antarctica was to the degree of "seismic activity in Antarctica" over many, many years has been virtually none existent or virtually 'nil'. Mention of seismic activity was only attributed to an occassional volcanic activity, which also virtually does not exist.
So, in conclusion, I do indeed think you are on to something......

regards
seekerof

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by Seekerof]

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Also found this article of less significance but may still hold some information to this topic.

www.70south.com...


In my searchings for more info. on this subject, I have continually found info. commenting on the "large, mysterious anomaly" present in the Lake Vostok area. Also mentions of micro-organisms being located approxly. 2 miles down in the regions of the "prestine waters" of the lake. I also found a report filed by the Russians to the Security Council of the UN claiming/suspecting the US being behind some 'seismac event(s)' in Antarctica. The article was dated in 2001. This article further claims that a few hours after the Russians detected this "seismic event," a 183x22 mile long piece of ice broke off from the Ross Ice Shelf! hehe.

lantis.tv...


I think that what you are noticing DR is very significant because, again, through my search for more info. on this topic.......everything I found mentioning seismic activity in Antarctica was to the degree of "seismic activity in Antarctica" over many, many years has been virtually none existent or virtually 'nil'. Mention of seismic activity was only attributed to an occassional volcanic activity, which also virtually does not exist.
So, in conclusion, I do indeed think you are on to something......

regards
seekerof

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by Seekerof]

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by Seekerof]


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations amateurs keep up the good work!

tut tut lol



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 02:56 PM
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Do you have anything even remotely useful to add to this thread????
I thought not.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Fry2
Do you have anything even remotely useful to add to this thread????
I thought not.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No I do not small fry 2!
I have allready explained and detailed what is occurring there. I also suggest you take your obviously young mind and reread your Winston signature and apply it to your own ineptitude, child.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 03:44 PM
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It is the coldest, most hostile, and most isolated environment on the planet. In addition, it is protectected by international treaty in terms of exploiting any and all natural resources


Sounds like an ideal location for a joint human/alien base.....



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 03:46 PM
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First of all I'm probably old enough to be your father, punk.
Now show me where you detailed and explained anything with

a plan for an on-the-cheap space station,
Lunar base, and Mars mission using inflatable space structures

We were discussing how a bubble would form under the ice. Not a man made dome.
or this

Skeptics argue that these apparent effects could result from anomalies
in local mass density, such as a hidden lode of metal ore. The
Greenland group, led by Mark E. Ander of the Los Alamos National
Laboratory and Mark A. Zumberge of the University of California at San
Diego, therefore chose a highly homogeneous site: a borehole
surrounded by a two-kilometer-thick expanse of ice. The team took
elaborate precautions: the bedrock was mapped by 42,000 high-frequency
radar scans, and careful surveys determined the height of the ice
surface to within a centimeter. A gravimeter took more than 100
readings at half a dozen locations, at depths of between 200 and 1,600
meters.

Again, the discussion was about tunneling at this point everyone is pretty much in agreement that the magnetic anomoly could be caused by a build up of ore.
Now it just gets juvenile, such as...

. "Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye."
2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
GREAT INSIGHT!
Were you even born when that movie came out?
and your final gem of omnipotent wisdom,


Congratulations amateurs keep up the good work!

tut tut lol


Yep looks to me like you really have your head together.

Move along and troll somewhere else please.

Thanks for answering my question though. I'm glad we agree that you have nothing to add.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 03:59 PM
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Yea doesn't it though? I always questioned alien articles with more than a grain of salt. However I must admit that after researching this and other topics I am becoming less skeptical of alien existience and more questioning.Especially of government knowledge and why it is being kept such a secret?
It is obvious at least to me, that the day to day politics the masses concentrate on has nothing to do with reality or government or power.
There is a governing power that does not recognize elections and popular concerns. They do not read newspapers or watch TV or listen to radio!
They travel from self sufficient base to base and are focused on matters that are beyond Big Macs and Cancer.
Every now and then we catch a glimpse, and are amused.

tut tut



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 04:09 PM
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Are you getting some sort of real time "feed" of the seismic activity down there? Whoa...

Refarding the AWOL Dems from my ome state here, I say we go get 'em and make them sweep the streets all the way home down I-20... Makes me sick.

Ok, so what if they are tunneling down there? What do you suspect they are after? Are you leaning toward alien presence, secret weapon or what?

I am NOT trying to be a smart a$$ I really am curious what the deal is.

PEACE...
m...



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Fry2
First of all I'm probably old enough to be your father, punk.
Now show me where you detailed and explained anything with


Yep looks to me like you really have your head together.

Move along and troll somewhere else please.

Thanks for answering my question though. I'm glad we agree that you have nothing to add.


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My 30 year old son doesn't even talk to me like that. Your excused.

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It costs $50,000/foot to drill on the North Sope!
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An earlier experiment done inside an Australian mine found a repulsive
effect of roughly 1 percent of the strength of ordinary gravity,
acting over a range of a few hundred meters. A second experiment,
carried out on a 600-meter television tower in North Carolina, found
an attractive effect of about 2 percent of the strength of gravity
acting over a distance of 300 meters. The calculations worked out
even better when both an attractive and a repulsive effect were
presumed.

Skeptics argue that these apparent effects could result from anomalies
in local mass density, such as a hidden lode of metal ore. The
Greenland group, led by Mark E. Ander of the Los Alamos National
Laboratory and Mark A. Zumberge of the University of California at San
Diego, therefore chose a highly homogeneous site: a borehole
surrounded by a two-kilometer-thick expanse of ice. The team took
elaborate precautions: the bedrock was mapped by 42,000 high-frequency
radar scans, and careful surveys determined the height of the ice
surface to within a centimeter. A gravimeter took more than 100
readings at half a dozen locations, at depths of between 200 and 1,600
meters.

The researchers assumed the density of the bedrock might range between
2.7 and three grams per cubic centimeter; densities outside this range
are geologically improbable. Finally, different members analyzed the
data at least three times. Their preliminary conclusion: there
appears to be a single, attractive effect whose strength is between
1.7 and 3.9 percent that of gravity. It is thought to act over a
distance of somewhere between 10 meters and slightly more than one
kilometer.

The new findings agree with the results from North Carolina but seem
to contradict those from Australia. It may be possible to reconcile
all three results by including both an attractive and a repulsive
effect, but then the theoretical model "gets rather contrived,"
according to Ander's colleague Richard Hughes. To help determine
whether these effects are real or are instead caused by hidden
anomalies in the environment, the group is already planning future
experiments in the Pacific Ocean and in Antarctica, where the ice is
twice as thick as the ice in Greenland.
www.totse.com...



"The Hydrographic Office of the Navy has verified an ancient
chart--it's called the Piri Reis map--that goes back more than
5,000 years. It's so accurate only one thing could explain it--
a worldwide aerial survey."
"That's almost incredible!" I said.

"The Hydrographic Office experts couldn't believe it, either, at
first. But they no only proved the map genuine, it's been used
to correct errors in some present day maps."

"All right." The captain turned back to me. "The Director of
Weston Observatory of Boston College is a top seismologist -
Reverend Daniel Linehan, Society of Jesuits. He's so good that
the Navy got him to help in the Antarctic, to find where there
was land under the ice.

The coast lines they found were identical with those on the Piri
Reis map. So the map surveys would have to have been made
centuries ago, before the land was buried by that deep ice.

"Father Linehan revealed this on a Georgetown University Forum, as
proof that this map is genuine. The forum transcript also
contains statements by the Hydrographic Office engineer in charge
of the evaluation of the map -- Mr. M.I. Walters.
www.totse.com...


NAME: Anthony W. England (Ph.D.)
NASA Astronaut

BIRTHPLACE AND DATE: Born May 15, 1942, in Indianapolis, Indiana; but his
hometown is West Fargo, North Dakota. His parents, Mr. and Mrs. Herman U.
England, reside in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota.

PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION: Brown hair; blue eyes; height: 5 feet 10 inches; weight:
l70 pounds.

EDUCATION: Attended primary school in Indianapolis, Indiana, and graduated
from high school in North Dakota; received bachelor and master of science
degrees in Geology from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1965,
and a doctor of philosophy degree in Geophysics from MIT in 1970.

EXPERIENCE: He was a graduate fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of
Technology for the 3 years immediately preceding his assignment to NASA. He
performed heat flow measurements throughout the southwest; took part in
geomagnetic studies in Montana; performed radar sounding studies of glaciers in
Washington State, and Alaska; performed microwave airborne research in
geothermal areas of the Western United States; and participated in and led
field parties during two seasons in Antarctica. He was Deputy Chief of the
Office of Geochemistry and Geophysics for the U.S. Geological Survey, and was
Associate Editor for the Journal of Geophysical Research. He served on the
National Academy's Earth Science Panel of the Space Science Board, and on
several Federal Committees concerned with Antarctic policy, nuclear waste
containment, and Federal Science and Technology.
www.totse.com...


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Like it or not, we now live in a new age of "One World." This is the age of global companies, of global communications and transport, of global food supply and finance and...just around the corner...global accommodation of political systems. In this sense, there are no home markets, no isolated markets and no markets outside the global network. It is time to face the fact that true national sovereignty no longer exists. We live in a world of big business, big lawyers, big bankers, even bigger moneymen and big politicians. It is the world of "The Secret Team."

In such a world, the Secret Team is a dominant power. It is neither military nor police. It is covert, and the best (or worst) of both. It gets the job done whether it has political authorization and direction, or not. It is independent. It is lawless. ................

There's the legend... that Hitler and many of his Nazi minions escaped Germany in the closing days of World War II and fled to Antarctica where at the South Pole they had discovered an entrance to the Earth's interior. According to the Hollow Earth Research Society in Ontario, Canada, they are still there. After the war, the organization claims, the Allies discovered that more than 2,000 scientists from Germany and Italy had vanished, along with almost a million people, to the land beyond the South Pole. This story gets more complicated with Nazi-designed UFOs, Nazi collaboration with the people who live in the center of the Earth, and the explanation for "Aryan-looking" UFO pilots.
www.totse.com...

PREFACE TO THE SECOND EDITION

Like it or not, we now live in a new age of "One World." This is the age of global companies, of global communications and transport, of global food supply and finance and...just around the corner...global accommodation of political systems. In this sense, there are no home markets, no isolated markets and no markets outside the global network. It is time to face the fact that true national sovereignty no longer exists. We live in a world of big business, big lawyers, big bankers, even bigger moneymen and big politicians. It is the world of "The Secret Team."

In such a world, the Secret Team is a dominant power. It is neither military nor police. It is covert, and the best (or worst) of both. It gets the job done whether it has political authorization and direction, or not. It is independent. It is lawless. ................
After their project had been completed for the year, they reported that one of the planes could not operate because of some sort of engine trouble, and that since the dangerous trip back with only one plane would be too hazardous, they planned to leave both aircraft and all of their equipment cached in the Antarctic. All personnel were flown out by the Navy and returned to the United States. It just happened by coincidence nearly one year later that a U.S. military officer stationed in Argentina reported the arrival of a civilian who was working with contacts in the Argentine navy to see if arrangements could be made, privately, to bring those planes out of Antarctica. This chance tip was followed up, and it was learned that the same man had decided that if he could get away with one plane, he might as well try to get away with two much larger aircraft and with the millions of dollars' worth of equipment, which was, in his mind, fair salvage somewhere on the ice cap of Antarctica. With the excellent cooperation of the Antarctic project officers on the White House staff and with the support of the Navy, all of this equipment and the planes were recovered and returned to service.

www.totse.com...





"Feed Your Head" Jefferson Airplane

tut tut

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well lets see, I would say it had major relevance.

TUT

The Dulce Papers

A joint US / EBE facility exists beneath the Archuleta Mesa near the town of DULCE NEW MEXICO. This facility has been in existance in one form or another since 1948. The facility proper is located one kilometer underground. The base is approximately 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce, and almost overlooks the town. There is a government road 36 feet wide going into the area.

In 1979, something happened at the base with 66 humans killed and 44 humans escaping. It is suspected that the US attempted unsuccessfully to take over the base by force.

One of the people who in escaped the facility was a CIA agent who, prior to leaving, made some notes, photos, and videotapes, before going into hiding. He has been in hiding ever since, and every six months he contacts each of five(?) people he left copies of the material with. His instructions were that if he missed four successive contacts, the people could do whatever they want with the material. The individuals caring for the packages were non technical in nature and new very little about the documents.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Well lets see, I would say it had major relevance.

TUT

The Dulce Papers

A joint US / EBE facility exists beneath the Archuleta Mesa near the town of DULCE NEW MEXICO. This facility has been in existance in one form or another since 1948. The facility proper is located one kilometer underground. The base is approximately 2.5 miles northwest of Dulce, and almost overlooks the town. There is a government road 36 feet wide going into the area.

In 1979, something happened at the base with 66 humans killed and 44 humans escaping. It is suspected that the US attempted unsuccessfully to take over the base by force.

One of the people who in escaped the facility was a CIA agent who, prior to leaving, made some notes, photos, and videotapes, before going into hiding. He has been in hiding ever since, and every six months he contacts each of five(?) people he left copies of the material with. His instructions were that if he missed four successive contacts, the people could do whatever they want with the material. The individuals caring for the packages were non technical in nature and new very little about the documents.
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ARE YOU STILL THERE SMALL FRY?
READ AND COMPREHEND IF YOU RECEIVED AN APPROPIATE EDUCATION.
AND DO NOT EVER CALL ME PUNK AGAIN OR I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AS I WOULD A RABID GOD OR DOG IN AQUA DULCE.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by dragonrider


aslwww.cr.usgs.gov...

Palmer Station shows the drilling/tunnelling signature to still be going strong for well over 50 hours straight. They must really be after something important...

[Edited on 30-7-2003 by dragonrider]



Gentlemen,
I think the question that remains to be answered is: What is causing 50+ hours of significant seismic activity in Antarctica? Thats what I was searching for when I was looking for the info. pertaining to past and near-current seismic activity in Antarctica.
Not to dis-credit anyones theorys or such.

regards
seekerof



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