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Originally posted by fleabit
What gives you yanks the right to interfere in every country on this earth.
The phrase "yankee go home" so aptly coined all these years ago holds more true now than ever before.
I don't think you understand how this would affect all countries in the world, not just the U.S. Why is the United States inherently "evil" for trying to stand up to crap like this. This is typical though. Evil U.S., but if we did nothing, and Iran actually did cut off oil supplies, and YOUR countries gas bills shot through the roof, you'd be asking why the stupid, worthless U.S. wouldn't step in when it mattered. They can't win no matter what they do.
I don't know why I bother getting into conversations on this board though, about anything U.S. - it seems a great majority of people who post here loathe the U.S. Why they still live here baffles my mind, but they hate everything about the country, from the military, law enforcement, laws, politics, health and safety, you name it. But the U.S. is just a wicked, evil empire it seems, and ALL their moves are for their benefit. Nothing they do is for the good of anything else.
Keep living in your fantasy land.
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by SurrealisticPillow
What do you call Sanctions?
I call it punishment for not complying with the free world. It's not a provocation, it's a response to a provocation.
Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Originally posted by Badgered1
I want those folks with real knowledge of 'strategerie' (sorry, couldn't resist) to advise here. I'm not asserting anything, just asking a simple question [please see mods note on 'we can't all know everything'].
Isn't the very reason for aircraft carriers an 'over the horizon' threat? Didn't the battleship go the way of the Dodo because of the carrier (big guns not having anywhere near the range of attack aircraft)?
If this is true, the very presence of an aircraft carrier within any sort of zone is simply chest beating.
Is this just picking a fight?
If the US carrier group wanted to bloody anyone's nose, they could do it from a very safe distance.
The voice in my head is screaming 'Gulf of Tonkin,' but there's part of me thinking this is just bravado.
Do you think a carrier group 'presence' is tantamount to getting up in someone's grill?
Many would assert that at this late round of global brinkmanship, the least provocative and best option available to the U.S. in the grand scheme is a clear demonstration of force.
4.5 acres of sovereign and mobile american territory
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by freee
why dont you rather ask yourself, "why have the americans sailed a couple of hundred miles to stir"
And the Iranians aren't stirring up crap by trying to close international seaways?
Originally posted by freee
why dont you rather ask yourself, "why have the americans not researched a new fuel source instead of waging war on 3rd world countries?"
We are. Just not working hard enough, in my opinion.
Originally posted by freee
because america is the bully in the school yard. I lived in the states for a while and i thoroughly enjoyed it, sad fact is, tptb are rotten, corrupt, dirty individuals who care only for thier pockets. The banks dont care about the people, do you think when nuclear missiles are raining down on the states your awesome Obama is gonna make plan to save you all? no sir.. he will put his tail between his legs with his family and secure his own future.
So, living here for a few years makes you an expert? Spare me.
Originally posted by freee
Iran has more right to be in those waters than the US does at this time, even if they are "ensuring oil trade".. the US OBVIOUSLY only wants oil..
What part of "international waterways" aren't you understanding?
Originally posted by freee
the US warmachine has an undying hunger for blood and bone...
why doesn't the u.s. government instead spend its money researching renewable alternative energy solutions?
Originally posted by sdocpublishing
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
If it was pure and simple you would not have to explain it.
It is only your opinion.
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Originally posted by sdocpublishing
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
If it was pure and simple you would not have to explain it.
It is only your opinion.
Iran closing off the staights of Hormuz - the jugular vein of the world economy - that it is an 'act of war' - it is not a 'matter of opinion' - and no it doesn't need explaining to anyone with an ounce of common sense, which is why nations are gearing up for possible conflict!.
It does apparently need explaining to the 'luminaries' of ATS!
Originally posted by fleabit
What gives you yanks the right to interfere in every country on this earth.
The phrase "yankee go home" so aptly coined all these years ago holds more true now than ever before.
I don't think you understand how this would affect all countries in the world, not just the U.S. Why is the United States inherently "evil" for trying to stand up to crap like this. This is typical though. Evil U.S., but if we did nothing, and Iran actually did cut off oil supplies, and YOUR countries gas bills shot through the roof, you'd be asking why the stupid, worthless U.S. wouldn't step in when it mattered. They can't win no matter what they do.
I don't know why I bother getting into conversations on this board though, about anything U.S. - it seems a great majority of people who post here loathe the U.S. Why they still live here baffles my mind, but they hate everything about the country, from the military, law enforcement, laws, politics, health and safety, you name it. But the U.S. is just a wicked, evil empire it seems, and ALL their moves are for their benefit. Nothing they do is for the good of anything else.
Keep living in your fantasy land.
Originally posted by ken10
Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
Originally posted by sdocpublishing
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
If it was pure and simple you would not have to explain it.
It is only your opinion.
Iran closing off the staights of Hormuz - the jugular vein of the world economy - that it is an 'act of war' - it is not a 'matter of opinion' - and no it doesn't need explaining to anyone with an ounce of common sense, which is why nations are gearing up for possible conflict!.
It does apparently need explaining to the 'luminaries' of ATS!
But it would be in retaliation for the US placing an embargo on Iran's Banking and oil sales, Which is in itself an act of war !!!