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Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
Here's all I have to say about this subject...
Refresher on the Religion of Peace
South Park Censored
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by defuntion
That is pretty light. Pat called for bodies on the street over that skit!
I still say my first title was correct.
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by izero
What pseudo-Christian . . .
--called you names?
--made funny faces at you?
--excluded you from their group?
--castrated or attempted to castrate you?
--stole your girl?
--raped your sister?
--killed your parents?
--stole your job?
-- . . .
i.e. where's all this intense angst toward a BELIEF SYSTEM coming from?
WHO instilled it, triggered it way back when and how?
Religious radicals have caused more death in the name of religion than any other cause in the history of mankind.
Originally posted by BO XIAN
think sometimes he enjoys saying startling things like that--perhaps to create a controversy and thereby get more people to discuss the topic he feels strongly about and the options he throws out there and why.
Of course, eventhough systematically determined and calculated, all these figures and their graph are only rough approximations. Even were we to have total access to all communist archives we still would not be able to calculate precisely how many the communists murdered. Consider that even in spite of the archival statistics and detailed reports of survivors, the best experts still disagree by over 40 percent on the total number of Jews killed by the Nazis. We cannot expect near this accuracy for the victims of communism. We can, however, get a probable order of magnitude and a relative approximation of these deaths within a most likely range. And that is what the figures in Table 1 are meant to be. Their apparent precision is only due to the total for most communist governments being the summation of dozens of subtotals (as of forced labor deaths each year) and calculations (as in extrapolating scholarly estimates of executions or massacres).
With this understood, the Soviet Union appears the greatest megamurderer of all, apparently killing near 61,000,000 people. Stalin himself is responsible for almost 43,000,000 of these. Most of the deaths, perhaps around 39,000,000 are due to lethal forced labor in gulag and transit thereto. Communist China up to 1987, but mainly from 1949 through the cultural revolution, which alone may have seen over 1,000,000 murdered, is the second worst megamurderer. Then there are the lesser megamurderers, such as North Korea and Tito's Yugoslavia.
Obviously the population that is available to kill will make a big difference in the total democide, and thus the annual percentage rate of democide is revealing. By far, the most deadly of all communist countries and, indeed, in this century by far, has been Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge. Pol Pot and his crew likely killed some 2,000,000 Cambodians from April 1975 through December 1978 out of a population of around 7,000,000. This is an annual rate of over 8 percent of the population murdered, or odds of an average Cambodian surviving Pol Pot's rule of slightly over just over 2 to 1.
In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it.
Communism has been the greatest social engineering experiment we have ever seen. It failed utterly and in doing so it killed over 100,000,000 men, women, and children, not to mention the near 30,000,000 of its subjects that died in its often aggressive wars and the rebellions it provoked. But there is a larger lesson to be learned from this horrendous sacrifice to one ideology. That is that no one can be trusted with power. The more power the center has to impose the beliefs of an ideological or religious elite or impose the whims of a dictator, the more likely human lives are to be sacrificed. This is but one reason, but perhaps the most important one, for fostering liberal democracy.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by LiberLegit
So you think the Muslims have the right answer?
Should Christians put out death threats and bombs and such, cause that seems to be your message.
Christianity isn't the only religion made fun of, not by a long shot.
I'm a Christian too, and I thought the way Jesus was portrayed on SNL was the kind of Jesus I prefer to believe in, and most people in the U.S. have excellent morals. Maybe you live in the wrong country, being that the rest of us and our kids are so immoral.
Personally, I don't think you or Pat have a clue as to what it means to be a Christian, and your eagerness to judge proves just that.
. . . so they just mosey on over to Christianity because they know the Christian crowd won't do anything drastic over it. Therein lies the double standard - it's basically - don't make fun of Islam because there will be serious issues. Maybe if someone is mentally retarded they could lead themselves to believe that Robertson is calling for violence in his comment.
If you really believe the Jesus portrayed in an SNL skit is a proper fit for the savior of mankind and a suitable depiction of our lord and savior then you must be one whacked out liberal goon Christian.
Couple this with your statement claiming people in the U.S. have good morals. Yeah, besides the sexually infused media outlets, teen to pre-teen sex become normalcy, high crime rates, corruption, etc. Then we have a really morally sound country here. Come on man.