So why is the NWO bad?, page 3

reply to post by definity

---

Continued . . . i.e. for those really interested in the truth . . . who have eyes to see and ears to hear . . .

americanbuilt.us...

Adam Weishaupt's "Order of Perfectibilists" (Illuminati) was created on May 1, 1776 - and modeled after his own JESUIT (founded August 15, 1534) education and catharism... FOR Rothschild. "He began working towards incorporating his system of Illuminism with that of Masonry, with the aim of creating a New World Order" originally crafted with the following goals:

Abolition of monarchies and all ordered governments
Abolition of private property and inheritances
Abolition of patriotism and nationalism
Abolition of family life and the institution of marriage,
& establishment of communal education for children
Abolition of all religion

"Sin is only that which is hurtful, and if the profit is greater
than the damage, it becomes a virtue." — Adam Weishaupt

----------------

from:

www.henrymakow.com...

"Marxist Terrorist is Next Brazil President"

August 26, 2010

"My friend, they have found the formula. Give the people a cell phone, cable TV, the "feeling" they are participating in the economy and they won't even think about liberty. Billions of pawns, the so-called middle-class of China, the "climbing" poor of Brazil, have no idea what the Bill of Rights, the Carta Magna was. Their sheer number, like a barbaric horde, will crush the poor Americans, the last people in the world who have some remaining tradition of freedom and individual rights. Those Third World nouveau-riche folks will burn the constitution for a new TV, bought in 12 installments with a credit card."

.

SAO PAULO, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Brazil ruling party candidate Dilma Rousseff surged ahead of her main rival in his home state bastion, a new opinion poll showed on Thursday, as she appeared headed for a mandate-booting outright win in the Oct. 3 election.

Rousseff of Lula's ruling Workers' Party had 49 points in the latest Datafolha poll, 20 points ahead of Serra. That compares with her 47-30 lead in the previous Datafolha survey released five days

. . .

. . .

On top of the file: TERRORIST / BANK ROBBER
On bottom:
Profession: Unknown
Activities:
1967 - agent for the Worker's Politics Movement
06/10/68 - robbery of Banespa bank, Iguatemi Street, $ 80,000
12/10/68 - planned the murder of [American] Capt. Charles Chandler [accomplished in cold blood, in front of his house, his wife and child]
11/12/68 - robbery of Gun Store Diana, Seminario Street, 48 guns [stolen]
??/04/69 - National Liberation Command [another terrorist organization)
24/01/69 - Robbery of Quitauna Arms Depository - 63 FAU rifles, 3 INA guns, 4 munitions.
18/07/69 - Robbery of the Governor Ademar de Barros' house [the money was never recovered]
01/08/68 - Robbery of the Mercantil of Sao Paulo bank.
??/09/69 - VAR Palmares [terrorist organization] Congress in Teresopolis.
20/09/69 - Robbery of the Public Force Police Quarters in Barro Branco.

These people receive substantial allowances for life because they have been arrested. The family of people whom they have killed get nothing at all. She climbed to the top inside the government because she is a Communist.

Another important friend of Lula and a Party director, Jose Dirceu, was also a terrorist and was trained in Cuba [a traitor of Brazil, really]. Dirceu was the head of the worst corruption scheme in the history of Brazil and is still free and working as a "consultant" in the government. (eminence grise).

All the machine of the government has been put at Dilma's support. She goes to every inauguration of projects and is exalted by Lula.

This is the kind of people who are being used by the New World Order to enslave us. I leave a warning, especially for the American leftists who like Chavez and Castro: Obama, pal of William Ayers, is not far from these guys. Is this what is in store of the US?

Continued next post.

Perhaps folks who are seriously interested in the truth . . . and even merely scan somewhat closely the above . . . MAY begin to learn something. I've studied the topic for 45 years and none to little of the above is much news to me . . . except at the level of details.
.
.

reply to post by definity

---

From:

ssr1.uchicago.edu...

Heidi Hartmann

"The Unhappy Marriage of Marxism and Feminism and Capitalism, Patriarchy, and Job Segregation by Sex"

Heidi Hartmann has consistently shown a concern with mixing the feminism with marxism in analyzing the structure of male domination - that is, while Hartmann is broadly identified with marxist analysis . . .

. . .

Hartmann thinks that capitalism exacerbated patriarchy - in fact, a historical analysis of how this happened is largely the subject of the latter article, which is more specific in focus). Because of this view attributing material basis to both capitalism and patriarchy, Hartmann laments the fact that most marxist feminism so far tended to greatly emphasize the elements of marxism, while downplaying the feminist question by subsuming women as merely the part of the dominated proletariat. In that regard, marxist feminist approach is fundamentally inadequate. On the other hand, Hartmann notes that radical feminist approach is also inadequate in a different sense, for although it focuses foremost on the feminist question, in turn neglects the aspect of historical development of patriarchal structure - rendering all forms of patriarchal domination as if they are identical.

. . .

---

from:

daletoons.blogspot.com...

Almost three years into his ministry, the real Messiah had eliminated disease in Israel and preached the Gospel of Peace with God to the entire nation without a teleprompter. How's the American left's smooth talkin' secular savior doing by comparison? With the complicity of a thoroughly corrupt leftist press, he has used the politics of race, class and sex to divide the country to near Civil War proportions. He has plundered the treasury for the sake of self and party, causing his enemies (us) to potentially finance the fundamental transformation of a once free society into one more socialist basket case. That's the problem with false messiahs, somebody else is always getting crucified. –Dale

---

frm:

dandelionsalad.wordpress.com...

The LF’s Marxism has a distinct social-democratic bias, that is, it tries to omit Lenin. The main force is the Democratic Socialists of America, usually allied with the Democratic Party. At the LF, however, communists, anti-imperialists, and other activists and a broad range of speakers have a chance to raise their voices.

The two plenary meetings set the overall political tone. The March 19 opening plenum, where civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson was the keynote speaker, overflowed the 700-seat auditorium and had to be broadcast to a nearby room. Jackson urged activism, but appealed to loyalty to the Democratic Party and the current administration — that is, he tied the activism to U.S. imperialism.

. . . .

Extended and lively discussion included serious questions from the audience on the role of the Democratic Party and the labor movement, how to fight the right, how to organize within the labor movement from the rank-and-file up, and how to deal with the question of super-exploited workers abroad, such as call centers in the Philippines that are set up to compete with workers in the U.S. Closer to home, the panel discussed how to get the union movement to recognize the cause of homeless workers and the role of militarization in the economy.

---

from:

Introduction
The following treatise on communist brainwashing, which has been published and republished since the 1930s, is an edited version of an actual textbook on Russian "psychopolitics." It was used as a primer, here in America, to teach communist agents how to brainwash people, and, in fact, how to subvert entire populations. While the wording of this particular treatise and there are any number of them may or may not be completely authentic, two things are historically certain: 1) Such brainwashing activities really occurred, and 2) this volume accurately conveys the principles and techniques employed. . . .

. . .

It turns out that all those "paranoid, right wing" fears that the Soviets were intent on demoralizing America's youth through drugs were well founded. For years, America's liberal intelligentsia considered such notions as paranoid delusions. An objective look at the state of America today her institutions, her socialistic political-economic drift, her young people's values shows precisely the results that the Soviets, for decades, bragged they wanted to achieve. . . .

. . .

Continued next post

I'm trying to compile a range of documents, links, refs to illustrate

that

1. Marxism is very much alive and well & is married by globalists to monopolistic, tyrannical capitalism.

reply to post by definity

---

from:

understandingthenwo.blogspot.com...

Don't take my word for it. Read the following treatise on psychopolitics, and see whether the conditions predicted back then are not exactly what America faces today in the 1990's. Consider the methods described herein the degradation of youth through sex and drugs, the seduction of this nation's media, educational, and religious institutions, the discrediting of her leaders and decide tor yourself whether or not they are the very means that have been employed to accomplish these ends.

---

from

www.dailypaul.com...

It argued that trying to change politics is useless, because in a "monetary system" everything is inherently corrupt, and supporting Ron Paul is particularly useless evidently.

Zeitgeist Addendum also wants everyone to give up their religions, so that the whole world can focus on the "collective cosmic conscience".

This is classic NWO propaganda.

[color=red]For those of you who aren't aware, the international banksters financed the Bolshevik Revolution and created Communism, when Rothschild agent Jacob Schiff financed Leon Trotsky in New York.[/color]

This "resource-based technocratic utopia" tripe is just the latest version of the propaganda that they will use to create global fascism by manipulating all sides of civilization.

Please compare these forms of propaganda to the actual tenets of the original Bavarian Illuminati, which was established by Adam Weishaupt on May 1, 1776:

•Abolition of monarchies
•Abolition of ordered government
•Abolition of private property
•Abolition of nationalism
•Abolition of marriage
•Abolition of religion
•The communal education of children

---

from:

americanbuilt.us...

[color=red]"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining Supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control[/color]... Do I mean CONSPIRACY? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." — Congressman Larry McDonald, 1976

(before he was "accidentally" shot down and assassinated in a plane crash by the Soviets)

"There exists a shadowy government with it's own Air Force, it's own Navy, it's own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue it's own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself." — Daniel K. Inouye, Senator

---

HG WELLS

from:

www.scribd.com...

. . . .I amsimply attempting to state the things we must do and the price we must pay for world peace if we really intendto achieve it.

. . .

Still the minds of our comfortable and influential ruling-class people refuse to accept the plain intimation thattheir time is over, that the Balance of Power and uncontrolled business methods cannot continue, and thatHitler, like the Hohenzollerns, is a mere offensive pustule on the face of a deeply ailing world. To get rid of him and his Nazis will be no more a cure for the worlds ills than scraping will heal measles. The disease willmanifest itself in some new eruption. It is the system of nationalist individualism and unco-ordinatedenterprise that is the worlds disease, and it is the whole system that has to go. It has to be reconditioned downto its foundations or replaced. It cannot hope to "muddle through" amiably, wastefully and dangerously, a second time.

World peace means all that much revolution. More and more of us begin to realise that it cannot mean less.

The first thing, therefore that has to be done in thinking out the primary problems of world peace is to realisethis, that we are living in the end of a definite period of history, the period of the sovereign states. As we usedto say in the eighties with ever-increasing truth: "We are in an age of transition". Now we get some measure of the acuteness of the transition. It is a phase of human life which may lead, as I am trying to show, either to anew way of living for our species or else to a longer or briefer dgringolade of violence, misery, destruction,death and the extinction of mankind. These are not rhetorical phrases I am using here; I mean exactly what Isay, the disastrous extinction of mankind.

---

We see here that the intelligensia has become convinced that their globalist tyranny will save mankind from himself. The father of lies in hell has one a great delusional victory in selling that notion.

reply to post by definity

---

from p 25

www.scribd.com...

In the preceding sections the implacable forces that make for the collectivisation of the world or disaster, havebeen exposed. It follows that "Federation" means practically uniform socialism within the Federal limits,leading, as state after state is incorporated, to world socialism. There manifestly we carry Mr Streit fartherthan he realises he goes - as yet. For it is fairly evident that he is under the impression that a large measure of independent private business is to go on throughout the Union. I doubt if he imagines it is necessary to gobeyond the partial socialisation already achieved by the New Deal. But we have assembled evidence to showthat the profit scramble, the wild days of uncorrelated "business" are over for ever.

. . . p31 . . .

This new and complete Revolution we contemplate can be defined in a very few words. It is (a) outrightworld-socialism, scientifically planned and directed, plus (b) a sustained insistence upon law, law based on afuller, more jealously conceived resentment of the personal Rights of Man, plus (c) the completest freedom of speech, criticism and publication, and sedulous expansion of the educational organisation to the ever-growingdemands of the new order. What we may call the eastern or Bolshevik Collectivism, the Revolution of theInternationale, has failed to achieve even the first of these three items and it has never even attempted theother two.

.

Putting it at its compactest, it is the triangle of Socialism, Law and Knowledge, which frames the Revolutionwhich may yet save the world.

.

Socialism! Become outright collectivists? Very few men of the more fortunate classes in our old collapsingsociety who are over fifty will be able to readjust their minds to that. It will seem an entirely repulsivesuggestion to them. (The average age of the British Cabinet at the present time is well over sixty.) But it neednot be repulsive at all to their sons. They will be impoverished anyhow. The stars in their courses are seeing tothat. And that will help them greatly to realise that an administrative control to administrative participationand then to direct administration are easy steps. They are being taken now, first in one matter and then inanother. On both sides of the Atlantic. Reluctantly and often very disingenuously and against energetic butdiminishing resistances. Great Britain, like America, may become a Socialist system with a definitiveRevolution, protesting all the time that it is doing nothing of the sort.

---

from:

www.silverbearcafe.com...

This was the beginning of the House of Rothschild, which controlled a fortune estimated to be well over $300,000,000. Soon the Rothschilds spanned Europe . . ., supported Cecil Rhodes' diamond operations, . . . and saved the Vatican from bankruptcy. In this country, through their American and European agents, they helped finance Rockefeller's Standard Oil, Carnegie Steel, and Harriman's Railroad. . . . , said that from 1820 on, was the "age of the Rothschild" and concluded that there was "only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild." In 1913, the family fortune was estimated to be over two billion dollars.

After Mayer Rothschild died on September 19, 1812, his will spelled out specific guidelines that were to be maintained by his descendants:

1) All important posts were to be held by only family members, and only male members were to be involved on the business end. The oldest son of the oldest son was to be the head of the family, unless otherwise agreed upon by the rest of the family, as was the case in 1812, when Nathan was appointed as the patriarch.

2) The family was to intermarry with their own first and second cousins, so their fortune could be kept in the family, and to maintain the appearance of a united financial empire. . . .

3) Rothschild ordered that there was never to be "any public inventory made by the courts, or otherwise, of my estate...Also I forbid any legal action and any publication of the value of the inheritance."

American and British Intelligence have documented evidence that the House of Rothschild, and other International Bankers, have financed both sides of every war, since the American Revolution. Financier Haym Salomon, who supported the patriots during the American Revolution, then later made loans to James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe, was a Rothschild agent. As explained earlier, during the Napoleonic Wars, one branch of the family funded Napoleon, while another financed Great Britain, Germany, and other nations. . . .

------------------------

The globalists have played all sides against the middle for a very long time.

BTW, imho, atheist 'Jews" are NOT authentic Jews regardless of bloodline.

reply to post by definity

---

from:

www.silverbearcafe.com...

According to early Masonic manuscripts, its origins can be traced back to Adam, who was said to be the first Mason. The apron of Masonry allegedly represents the fig leaves worn by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. The knowledge received by Adam after eating from the forbidden tree, was carried on by his son Seth, and then Nimrod (who was responsible for the Tower of Babel), the great-grandson of Noah. Dr. Albert Mackey(33rd Degree), in writing his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, referred to the "York manuscript, No. 1" which contained information from a parchment that dated back to the year 1560 which identified Babylon as the originator of Masonry. He also cited the Cooke Manuscript ("The Legend of the Craft", which was written in 1420, and is said to be the second oldest Masonic manuscript), which reveals that Nimrod taught the craft of Masonry to the workers at the Tower of Babel. When God confused their language, these secrets were said to be lost.

When King Solomon was building the Temple, it is taught that Freemasonry was revived. Mackey said that the "Masonic Lodges were initially dedicated to King Solomon, because he was our first Most Excellent Grand Master." However, Martin L. Wagner revealed in An Interpretation of Freemasonry that the "name Solomon is not the Israelitish king. It is the name in form, but different in its meaning. It is a substitute...a composite, Sol-om-on, the names of the sun in Latin, Indian and Egyptian, and is designed to show the unity of several god-ideas in the ancient religions, as well as with those of Freemasonry." A story recounted in Masonic tradition, has to do with Hiram Abiff, a Syrian Master Mason, known as the architect of Tyre, who was said to be hired by Solomon to build the Temple. He was killed by three Fellow-Crafts, when he would not reveal the secret Masonic word (so they could get Master's wages in foreign countries), which was engraved on a gold triangle he wore around his neck. Solomon found the triangle, and had it placed in a secret vault under the Temple. Abiff later became a Christ-like figure to the Masons. Mackey said that "Hiram represent(s) a popular Syrian god against whom the champions of Jehovah (the Jews) strove ceaselessly." Another Mason, Daniel Sickles, correlates him with an Egyptian god, and Pierson's Traditions of Freemasonry said that he actually represented all of the pagan sun gods, as does Mackey's Lexicon of Freemasonry.

. . .

. . .

. . .

. . .

. . .

High level Masons believe that Lucifer never fell to earth, and that Lucifer is really God, and refer to Jehovah by the name of "Adonay", saying that he is the god of evil because he forces men to be subservient to his repressive dictates. Masonic books given to handpicked members of the 32nd and 33rd Degrees, say that Jesus was an impostor, and that Lucifer is the true God. The Masons have their own Luciferian based calendar. Where ours is based on the years before (B.C.) and after (A.D.) the birth of Christ, theirs counts its years with the suffix A.L. means Anno Lucis or "Year of Light (Lucifer)".

In Morals and Dogma, Pike wrote: "Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it...The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason."

---

Hmmmmmmmm . . . the plot thickens . . . back to Babylon and the foul dark 'angel of light', indeed. The above link has many many pages of interesting documentation.

---

from:

sm4csi.home.xs4all.nl...

THE SOVIET ART OF BRAIN WASHING: A synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics:

PSYCHOPOLITICS - the art and
science of asserting and maintain-
ing dominion over the thoughts and
loyalties of individuals, officers,
bureaus, and masses, and the ef-
fecting of the conquest of enemy
nations through "mental healing."

Continued in next post

The anti Christian, Godless Communism forces of the global oligarchy advance handily . . .

reply to post by definity

---

from

sm4csi.home.xs4all.nl...

EDITORIAL NOTE



From May 2, 1936, to October 10, 1939, I was a dues-paying member of the Communist Party, operating under my own name, Kenneth Goff, and also the alias John Keats. In 1939, I voluntarily appeared before the Un-American Activities Committee in Washington, D.C., which was chairmanned at that time by Martin Dies, and my testimony can be found in Volume 9 of that year's Congressional Report.

During the period that I was a member of the Communist Party, I attended their school which was located at 113 E. Wells St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and operated under the name Eugene Debs Labor School. Here we were trained in all phases of warfare, both psychological and physical, for the destruction of the Capitalistic society and Christian civilization. In one portion of our studies we went thoroughly into the matter of psychopolitics. This was the art of capturing the minds of a nation through brainwashing and fake mental health -- the subjecting of whole nations of people to the rule of the Kremlin by capturing their minds. We were taught that the degradation of the populace is less inhuman than their destruction by bombs, for to an animal lives only once, any life is sweeter than death. The end of a war is the control of a conquered people. If a people can be conquered in the absence of war, the end of war will have been achieved without the destructions of war.

During the past few years, I have noted with horror the increase of psychopolitical warfare upon the American public. First, in the brainwashing of our boys in Korea, and then in the well financed drive of mental health propaganda by left-wing pressure groups, wherein many of our states have passed Bills which can well be used by the enemies of America to subject to torture and imprisonment, those who preach the gospel of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, and who oppose the menace of Communism. A clear example of this can be seen in the Lucille Miller case. In this warfare the Communists have definitely stated: "You must recruit every agency of the nation marked for slaughter into a foaming hatred of religious healing."

Another example of the warfare that is being waged can be seen in the attempt to establish a mental Siberia in Alaska, which wa called for in the Alaskan Mental Health Bill. A careful study of this Bill will make you see at once that the land set aside under the allotment could not be for that small territory, and the Bill within itself establishes such authority that it could be turned into a prison camp under the guise of mental health for everyone who raises their voice against Communism and the hidden government operating in our own nation.

------

Evidently the FEMA camp idea goes way back.

-----

From:

www.askmen.com...

capitalism in 2009
Marx never did tell us how his communist society was going to work. What he inadvertently did, however, was remind us how we can all be good little capitalists.

---

from:

www.thebirdman.org...&NWO/+Doc-ConspiracyTheory-WhoAreTheNewWorldOrderlies/NWO-RothschildsVsRockefellers- Mullins.htm

We do not wish to imply that the Rockefellers no longer have influence, but that the major policy dictates of the Rockefeller Syndicate are handed down by other capos, of whom they continue to be a visible force. Through the person of David Rockefeller, the family is sometimes called ``the first family of the Soviet Union.'' Only he and Dr. Armand Hammer, the moving force behind USTEC, have permanent permission to land their private planes at the Moscow Airport. Others would suffer the fate of KAL 007.

. . .

. . . . The Rockefellers are rumored to be liquidating their investments in the New York area, and reinvesting in the West, particularly in the area around Phoenix, Arizona. It is possible that they know something we don't.

. . .

First, he would send a minion, not known to be working for Rockefeller, with an offer to buy the competing refinery for a low price, but offering cash. If the offer was refused, the competitor would then come under attack from a competing refinery which greatly undercut his price. He might also suffer a sudden strike at his refinery, which would force him to shut down. Control of labor through unions has always been a basic Rockefeller technique. Like the Soviet Union, they seldom have labor trouble. If these techniques failed, Rockefeller would then be saddened by a reluctant decision to use violence; beating the rival workers as they went to and from their jobs, or burning or blowing up the competing refinery.

To be continued next post

reply to post by definity

---

From:

www.thebirdman.org...&NWO/+Doc-ConspiracyTheory-WhoAreTheNewWorldOrderlies/NWO-RothschildsVsRockefellers- Mullins.htm

The involvement of the Rockefellers in promoting the world Communist Revolution also developed from their business interests. There was never any commitment to the Marxist ideology; like anything else, it was there to be used. At the turn of the century Standard Oil was competing fiercely with Royal Dutch Shell for control of the lucrative European market. Congressional testimony revealed that Rockefeller had sent large sums to Lenin and Trotsky to instigate the Communist Revolution of 1905.

.

His banker, Jacob Schiff, had previously financed the Japanese in their war against Russia and had sent a personal emissary, George Kennan to Russia to spend some twenty years in promoting revolutionary activity against the Czar. When the Czar abdicated, Trotsky was placed on a ship with three hundred Communist revolutionaries from the Lower East Side of New York. Rockefeller obtained a special passport for Trotsky from Woodrow Wilson and sent Lincoln Steffens with him to make sure he was returned safely to Russia. For traveling expenses, Rockefeller placed a purse containing $10,000 in Trotsky's pocket.

---

The above linked document has a great wealth of detail about the setting up of the oligarchy in the modern era to increasingly control the world and to marry monopolistic capitalism to Marxism as a structure for the eventual one world government and economic structure.

---

From:

amos37.com...

The Corruption of America: CULTURAL MARXISM

by Amos 3:7 on Aug.31, 2011, under Commentary, End Time Signs

From the director of FIAT EMPIRE — CULTURAL MARXISM explores the love affair with collectivist ideologies that has lead to ever bigger government and the welfare-warfare state. Find out how the Frankfurt School, a Marxist splinter group, established itself at Columbia University and began “the long march through the institutions.” The idea was, and still is, to infiltrate every corner of Western culture and pervert traditional values with “political correctness” and Marxist ideologies. With the express purpose of destroying Christian Values!

CULTURAL MARXISM – The Corruption of America

---

from

politically-confused.blogspot.com...

But none of that really matters.

At the top, the fake left and right are on the same team, fighting out fake political dramas to keep you sated with disinfotainment and so that you never realise that the political frontmen cloak the real government, which is the money power of the central banks. (And yes, central banks are NOT capitalist - the Communist Manifesto calls for having a central bank.)

If people ever realise this, their tyranny is OVER. So please, help out a real pro-freedom cause; look behind the curtain of the fake political parties! Stop falling for well-paid gatekeepers of the fake left and right!

---

Some discussion of current figure heads of the oligarchy can be found here . . . a fairly intense site:

commieblaster.com...

Our President, Barack Obama, was a member of a radical communist party, called the Illinois New Party and/or the Chicago New Party, which has Chicago Mob and Black Communist Activist roots. He admits receiving Marxist training (Marxism is the ideology of using law as a means of oppression and control). Obama has friends whose terrorist organization bombed the US Capital, the Pentagon and the State Department, killed policemen and plans to kill 25 million people. These people may be agents of Cuba or Russia.

Obama has surrounded himself with socialists-communists of similar backgrounds and has built and is building a shadow government of communists-socialists-progressives-radicals to bypass Congressional and Citizen control. As elected leader of our country, he regularly meets with large labor unions led by known communists. He worked for an international communist organization, ACORN, now under investigation by the FBI and others. As a marxist-trained socialist and apparent narcissist, Obama's primary goals are to eliminate capitalism and replace it with a socialist-marxist-communist program, perhaps under the direction of the Soviet Union who has been our enemy for over 50 years. Obama's policies are leaving our nation open to attack and infiltration by communists and terrorists of dictator countries and his initiatives will collapse the US financial system as it forces us to obtain huge financial loans from other countries like communist China. Obama made the Top Ten List of Corrupt Politicians in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010, with . . .

2 B continued

reply to post by CatJockey

---

Insanity. Mankind has been one long struggle of breaking free from government. Now you want to turn the course of history upon its head?

No. History has not been a struggle to break free of government. History has been a struggle for self/-governance.

There is a difference.

When the Founders won the Revolution, they didn't decide to break free of government, they made a more perfect union.

The Governmental system, like the economic system, is neither good nor bad; it is how we choose to use it that determines its character.

reply to post by BO XIAN

---

Actually, the one world government folks originated Marxism AND the bastardized conglomerate monopolistic tyrannical form of capitalism and are determined to marry the two as the structure of the world system.

But it doesn't work that way...you can't have it both ways. You can't say that the Marxists are the NWO and that they're using the "bastardized conglomerate monopolistic tyrannical form of capitalism" in order to, what? Consolidate all the world's wealth into the hands of an ever-dwindling few to THEN redistribute it...?

I read your links...I'm sorry but, though it is interesting, it is not credible to use as evidence conspiracy theories tied to organisations for which there is little qualitative or quantitative evidence of their existence to back up one's claims.

reply to post by madhatr137

---

No. History has not been a struggle to break free of government. History has been a struggle for self/-governance.

There is a difference.

Wow. Talk about splitting hairs. If you took my statement to mean I am a staunch proponent of anarchy, you misinterpreted. How 'bout this: History has been a struggle to break free from oppressive government, which I assert is the only form one world government can take. Better for you?

When the Founders won the Revolution, they didn't decide to break free of government, they made a more perfect union.

Since you are splitting hairs, you are only partially right. But I am not a hair splitter, so I'll let you figure out where you are partially wrong here ...

The Governmental system, like the economic system, is neither good nor bad; it is how we choose to use it that determines its character.

An awfully vague and relatively useless platitude here. And it doesn't really make sense, quite frankly. There is no 'THE Governmental system or THE economic system to be used in different ways. There are a mulitude of different systems, distinct and seperate from eachother. There is a difference, ya know. But, like I said, I ain't a hair splitter and understand the idea you are attempting to convey and will leave it at that...

reply to post by madhatr137

---

1. I don't know how many of the primary sorts of sources in those links you read.

2. I don't think there's been enough time for you to have read even all the links--even half of them, very likely.

3. The primary actors on the world stage have incrimminated themselves in their own words. Evidently you don't believe them or haven't read them.

4. The ONE source of a Rockefeller praising and supporting Marxism should have been a sufficient clue to have realized that the monopolistic capitalists are essentially Marxist.

5. It is a farcical notion to believe that Marxism will ever truly distribute the wealth equally to totally equal individuals. Has not ever happened. Will not ever happen.

6. The parts of Marxism that the globalist oligarchy is incorporating into the melding of Marxism into monopolistic capitalism as the world economic/political structure . . . are:

A) Tyrannical control of a leading elite
B) Destruction of marriage and of the family [What a stupid idea given all of recorded history]

C) Mass education and rearing in controlled government contexts of all children--without parental influence.

D) Destruction of all religion except their globalist satanic religion eventually resulting in !COMMANDED! worship of satan under pain of death for noncompliance. Particularly aggressive destruction of Christianity--and most particularly those parts of Christianity which believe in the supernatural and Christ's soon return.

E) Totaly control of all media.

F) Total control and 24/7/365 monitoring of all serfs and slaves (which equal all not of the ruling elite).

G) Total control of all health care and use of same for Draconian goals.

H) Genocidal destruction of all but 200 million souls on the planet.

I) Reduction of goods and services to those few which the elite deem fitting for the serfs and slaves--removing most options and choices in the market place.

. . .
. . .

The proof is already linked to above that the globalists are melding Marxism with monopolistic capitalism as the eventual world economic and political structure. I cannot force folks to see what they are unwilling to see.

However, I will continue to post additional evidence and documentation as I carve out time to do so.

I can only suggest that you look at the refs above much more closely on such issues. You have evidently scanned far too quickly and far too much on the surface.

In terms of redistributing wealth after collection of most of it in the few hands of the elite--they never have planned to do that. Greed and lust for power are their hallmarks. They may have some notions of distributing crumbs more or less equally--gruel for the serfs and slaves of more or less equal proportions. They are not interested in healthy, comfortable, slaves enjoying life.

AS ANIMAL FARM puts it so well . . . SOME PIGS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS. And they LIKE it that way.

‘Barcode everyone at birth’
  Posted 6 days ago with 20 member flags

Pentagon Source Alludes to Martial Law Around July 1st, 2012
  Posted 5 days ago with 19 member flags

FBI Seize Email server, then return it
  Posted 18 days ago with 16 member flags

As Commandos Raid Tampa, US State Dept Demands Power to Declare War?
  Posted 2 days ago with 13 member flags

Australia preparing for Global Revolution November 5 2012 begins today.
  Posted 10 days ago with 12 member flags

HSBC Insider - This Bank is a Criminal Enterprise Laundering Billions
  Posted 18 days ago with 11 member flags

Bilderberg Scheme To Save The Euro
  Posted 14 days ago with 9 member flags

Martial Law in Montreal
  Posted 6 days ago with 9 member flags

Newest topics, updated in real-time:

Newest topics getting flags, in real-time:

Newest topics getting replies, in real-time: