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So why is the NWO bad?

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posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 06:25 PM
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so i get it it is a global goverment! but the thing that humans have been doing since the beggining of there era is expanding it was evident that we where going to eventualy collonise earth and move onto other planet and the only way to do this effecintly without any argument is through a global goverment. But where ahve people got this idea that there going to be this global rage?? this idea that police and the goverment will just rape you of your rights and what ever you do? but wouldnt a one world goverment give 3rd world contries a better chance no more poverty or atleast a start to no more poverty? where have people got this idea about it being a violent uprising for power and then an almost slavery existance for the rest of us? Or am i missing something huge??? What am i missing here?




posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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People fear that the ones in charge will enslave us all.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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I think they're bad for the way they enslave us.

They only care about themselves.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Explanation :S&F!

OL will try answer as best I can ok!

The NWO is neither good or bad!

It is all about power [absolute power] and who gets to weild it.

Your bit in that [NWO] determines whether it is good or bad for YOU!

If you not in Charge of the NWO ..then you MUST BE A SLAVE TO IT! There ARE no other choices!

It IS a black and white chess board and that is a battle zone ..for YOUR MIND, BODY AND SOUL!

There are 2 possible outcomes ... stalemate or checkmate!

TPTB can no longer checkmate us and can only play for a STALEMATE!

WE as Individuals however can still play for a CHECKMATE against TPTB!

That is why TPTB fear us and they want to be in charge of the NWO ... it is so they dont get SLAUGHTERED in public and completely shamed in their own eyes!

The same goes for us ... it is so we dont get SLAUGHTERED in public and completely shamed in our own eyes!

Personal Disclosure: I'd like to quote George Carlin! "I have as much authority as the Pope! He just has a bigger and wider audience!".


Power is a perception! Are you in charge of you? That is all that matters as the NWO is beyond you and we will always be immersed within existence and so will NEVER have ULTIMATE power over everything!

So in that sense this is all a game becuase no one can ever really attain that! You win if you in more charge over you and your environment than some other external observer ok!

Basically inside your skull ... are you a Sovereign or a Slave?


The battle ... is only in your head ok!


I hope this helps!



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 06:55 PM
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It's not the concept of a one world government that is the problem, it's the execution of the idea that worries people.

As we have all seen countries or individuals that go against the grain are met with extreme force backed by international condemnation. This is the real problem. Countries like Iran for example provide a stumbling block to initiating such a system, and its obvious to most what is happening to their country as a result.

If only it were like this:




edit on 17-12-2011 by Big Raging Loner because: to remove a letter.



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 07:00 PM
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The problem with a global government is that its premature in the sense we as a species haven't evolved passed control, authority, and power concepts that involve leadership and rule...which always inevitably 100% of the time leads to oppression and human/civil rights violations.

You think changing national government policies can be a hassle? Try a changing a world government...it wont happen, change will be IMPOSSIBLE on a global level...

As far as majority/mob rule goes that has proven to be ineffective due to the fact that the majority/mob is extremely easy to persuade and influence into making or going along with whatever agenda someone in power may have.

I don't believe in democracy anymore, so sorry, America has proven to me that a majority of idiots that decide to make idiotic decisions isn't good for anyone. Communism/socialism any form of government we have ever known applied on the world scale is absolutely going to lead to a prison in which you cannot escape.

Don't get me wrong I think that the nations and invisible lines on a map serve as to divide the human race to in-fighting and make us all susceptible to easy manipulation etc...But a global world government WILL NOT solve that issue, cultures will still clash the bigots will still be bigots and the world will suck all the same and more.

World government is a horrible horrible idea...



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 07:05 PM
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What you're missing is an understanding of the history of the human race.

In theory, a one-world government would mean that all countries are on an equal playing field. I think you're imagining one big communistic situation in which all food, resources and jobs would be equally distributed.

What in the history of this world would make you think that this is how it actually would be?

I see the New World Order as a consolidation of power, wealth and resources among just a few powerful families. There would be no other reason to push for the entire world to be under the thumb of only a few. The world is too big of a place, with too many languages, religions, beliefs, and environments, to be run as one big happy extended family. It has always been a Tower of Babel situation.

I believe that people are best served by local governance. It is the same principle that the United States was founded on. This is why we have senators and representatives from all 50 states. It was a response to the tyranny of the King of England.

Government that controls a huge area and is run by a very few is always a bad idea, because people tend to be clannish, greedy, prejudiced, and dishonest. There will be people who be will on the short end of the stick. It has always been this way. Look at the Roman Empire and the English empire, for example. The homefolks did well, the far-flung "natives" got screwed. Too much power is just asking for trouble.

Just my 6 cents (adjusted for inflation).



posted on Dec, 17 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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I do not think globalization in itself is all that bad of an idea, but rather the execution of it as it is today. If it were a situation where the people themselves dictate the expansion it would not have the consequences as it does. Not a group of people secretly forming it to their whim. If globalization is to happen it has to happen by the people and at the pace we set for the goods that we need first, then our wants.



posted on Dec, 22 2011 @ 01:00 PM
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I agree with alot of what's being said here, a lot of great points, I quickly want to add that a fear of NWO should be noted that an extermination of the population will exist and take effect for longevity of existence for the race, resources etc.. Something like 90% according to the Georgia documents. Also camps could take place where we are held treated like Jews in hitlers era only modern. Also the denver airport conspiracy cites something towards this. And my personal opinion I think the Mayans dec 21st could play a role in this. Thanks for reading



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Nailsun23 I think we should have a NWO!
I agree with alot of what's being said here, a lot of great points, I quickly want to add that a fear of NWO should be noted that an extermination of the population will exist and take effect for longevity of existence for the race, resources etc.. Something like 90% according to the Georgia documents. Also camps could take place where we are held treated like Jews in hitlers era only modern. Also the denver airport conspiracy cites something towards this. And my personal opinion I think the Mayans dec 21st could play a role in this. Thanks for reading


Nwo all teh way!
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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:43 AM
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One World Government/Type-1 Civilization vs NWO.



That is the real question. Which way will it go? Eventually we as a species will need to unite but how and when? Are we as a species ready for it? Fear of the unknown is rampant. All based on examples in real Human history. I have a sneaking suspicion that no matter which way it is created somebody somewhere will simply not be happy with it and or scream conspiracy because their views are not among the "Popular or the Majority"


Here are two subject related.threads that discuss the Pros and Cons. Well worth your time to read.

Enjoy.

NWO or Type 1 Civilization?
So, You Hate TPTB. Whats your solution?




Type 1 Civilization

We are close. If we use the Kardashevian scale to plot humankind's progress, it shows how far we've come in the long history of our species from Type 0, and it leads us to see what a Type 1 civilization might be like:

Type 0.1: Fluid groups of hominids living in Africa. Technology consists of primitive stone tools. Intra-group conflicts are resolved through dominance hierarchy, and between-group violence is common.

Type 0.2: Bands of roaming hunter-gatherers that form kinship groups, with a mostly horizontal political system and egalitarian economy.

Type 0.3: Tribes of individuals linked through kinship but with a more settled and agrarian lifestyle. The beginnings of a political hierarchy and a primitive economic division of labor.

Type 0.4: Chiefdoms consisting of a coalition of tribes into a single hierarchical political unit with a dominant leader at the top, and with the beginnings of significant economic inequalities and a division of labor in which lower-class members produce food and other products consumed by non-producing upper-class members.

Type 0.5: The state as a political coalition with jurisdiction over a well-defined geographical territory and its corresponding inhabitants, with a mercantile economy that seeks a favorable balance of trade in a win-lose game against other states.

Type 0.6: Empires extend their control over peoples who are not culturally, ethnically or geographically within their normal jurisdiction, with a goal of economic dominance over rival empires.

Type 0.7: Democracies that divide power over several institutions, which are run by elected officials voted for by some citizens. The beginnings of a market economy.

Type 0.8: Liberal democracies that give the vote to all citizens. Markets that begin to embrace a nonzero, win-win economic game through free trade with other states.

Type 0.9: Democratic capitalism, the blending of liberal democracy and free markets, now spreading across the globe through democratic movements in developing nations and broad trading blocs such as the European Union.


Kardashev scale

The Kardashev scale is a method of measuring a civilization's level of technological advancement. The scale is only theoretical and in terms of an actual civilization highly speculative; however, it puts energy consumption of an entire civilization in a cosmic perspective.

It was first proposed in 1964 by the Soviet Russian astronomer Nikolai Kardashev. The scale has three designated categories called Type I, II, and III. These are based on the amount of usable energy a civilization has at its disposal, and the degree of space colonization. In general terms, a Type I civilization has achieved mastery of the resources of its home planet, Type II of its solar system, and Type III of its galaxy.[1]


Energy use

* Type I — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available on a single planet — has approximately 1016 or 1017 W available.Earth specifically has an available power of 1.74 × 1017 W (174 petawatts, see Earth's energy budget). Kardashev's original definition was 4 × 1012 W — a "technological level close to the level presently attained on earth" (presently meaning 1964).

* Type II — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available from a single star, approximately 4 × 1026 W.Again, this figure is variable; the Sun outputs approximately 3.86 × 1026 W. Kardashev's original definition was also 4 × 1026 W.

* Type III — a civilization that is able to harness all of the power available from a single galaxy, approximately 4 × 1037 W.This figure is extremely variable, since galaxies vary widely in size; the stated figure is the approximate power output of the Milky Way. Kardashev's original definition was also 4 × 1037 W.



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by OrNaM3nT
People fear that the ones in charge will enslave us all.


Will enslave us...? They already have enslaved us and did it a long time ago.



posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by thismightbesatire

Originally posted by OrNaM3nT
People fear that the ones in charge will enslave us all.


Will enslave us...? They already have enslaved us and did it a long time ago.





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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 11:57 AM
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The NWO is NOT a bad; it just has a lot of bad connotation and negative PR. I support it fully.

It will ultimately save humanity.

How else will our species advance into a Level I, II, of III civilization? World leaders need to stop trying to be so Politically Correct and make the ugly decisions that most are scared to make.

Yes we need RFID...reduce kidnappings, theft, and will be all around more convenient. We also need population control and a little bit of eugenics. We need to stop allowing welfare recipients to go from cradle to grave living off of taxpayers money. Support being productive. End religion.

I am all for it, and even a few threads on it.

Don't get tripped up by my avatar; as soon as I know how to change it, I will


Listen to the infamous Dr. Miko Michiou:


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posted on Dec, 25 2011 @ 12:33 PM
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It depends on how you look at it.

We could certainly use a new world order that's based around liberty and justice.

That's just not the world order that the elites have in mind.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 05:12 AM
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The world could end up being a better place or it could end up being completely full with tyranny or totalitarianism. But what we have now works So why take the risk of NWO? It can be forced upon us yes.. But why accept a NWO that could end up being tyrannic. It could be better then now or could be worse. No matter what we do the world wont be perfect.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 05:15 AM
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I sometimes think the same.....would it be that bad??...then I think of who is offering it......and I just want to hide my head....lol.....no really though.....1 world govenment wouldnt be so bad if it was offered by us all as a solution to our common problems.....the thing is for it to come about by those that are offering it.....we would take a role as second class humans......scary.....sucks......scary-------1 evil prick in charge of my families life.....F!



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 06:32 AM
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1.The "NWO" leaders fell for the same lie that tempted Eve.
2.Satan promises the world, all power and control, and this promise is believed.
3.God separated the world by race and language at the Tower of Babel and "globalisation" and "multiculturalism" and "racism" are used to justify the undoing of this. Look at the new Tower being built by the EU biblelight.net...
4.Evil exists.
5.it will be by force and done by the age old "Create the problem to produce a desired reaction then offer the planned solution"
6.The ruling families are known Satan worshippers, yet the vast majority of people now roll their eyes at this because they first believed the lie that God does not exist.
7.Look around you at the multitudes of people obvlious to the planned take down of the western and predominantly Christian professing nations all in the name of "multiculturalism". They are creating the problems by massive immigration of nonsimilar cultures, and managing the desired reaction of riots, strife and public media reaction all to further their intended solution I.e. Take a look at the Denver Airport mural of the kids in the coffins and scenes of destruction.

And so how can anyone not see and understand that the "NWO" is against humanity, that it is against God and that it offers nothing of value except to those in charge who feel that they are gods who have the moral right to decide who lives and dies. If you choose to believe the lie that evil does not exist, you will not understand any of the points that I have put forth.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 02:52 PM
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Corporate Treason. For the people by the people is supposed to be how our government works. Equal rights for every person. If the country breaks the law or several laws repeatedly against one person for the benefit of corporations making money . Maybe your parents will be happy to find a young preteen ripped apart and stroking and having seizures and dying for the benefit of other peoples money in a dark alleyway. Make it an assembly line for the elites or the 1% because they really need to be pampered and their lives easier. A long time ago the world was a different place , no radio or tv or electricity , if different values were set in place or ideas. The freemasons are an old club going back a long time. People were very religious all throughout history, in different eras of time. In the begining of civilisation or America 500 years ago the world was probably very different, and people were curious.



posted on Dec, 26 2011 @ 03:10 PM
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NWO is not bad if you can not think for your self, do not want to be free thinking, or free willing, nor free to say say want you want to say, nor free to fly your flag or speak your native tong all that will be gone, no more individual thought no more knowing ones country.



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