NDAA/S.1867 passes the house

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 03:54 PM
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Obama might be the best thing to happen as president, he woke up people to the fact that nothing will ever change in washington by voting in a new president republican or democrat
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by geryon
Obama might be the best thing to happen as president, he woke up people to the fact that nothing will ever change in washington by voting in a new president republican or democrat
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Between Bush and Obama people are waking up, but is it to late? This bill is unbelievable and I thought PDD-51 during the Bush administration was bad. But regardless on who wakes up, people are still going to vote for someone against the people's best interests, except Ron Paul. Obama is nothing but a Trojan horse for a continuing agenda.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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Hi there,

i don't know if my reading abilities are bad but in fact, i've read the two bills (1450 and 1867) sections 1031, 1032 and 1033 of both, and it really says that US CITIZENS and LAWFUL ALIEN US RESIDENTS are EXCLUDED from those bills.

Bill 1450

Bill 1867

Am I the only one that took time to read them or I read the wrong parts?

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Peace out.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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Just ran across this poll results at another site.

They show it could be a very interesting election this time after all.

www.opednews.com...

Some of the incumbants could be in for a rude awakening .

Let's just remember the names of those who voted "yea" on this bill.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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Americans are the blame for voting these idiots in. I research EVERY candidate that runs for any position of power, and if I don’t agree with any of the candidates, I usually vote in humpty dumpty or mickey mouse. There is not one person in my state or district on this list that I voted for. Maybe if Americans would do a little research on who they are voting for, the percentages would have been different. Why do Americans keep voting these a$$holes in? Black people will still vote for Obama-jad, only because he is black. Idiots will vote for cha-chingrich, because fox news says he’s the right choice. You have no right to complain if there is even one person you voted for on this list.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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it's safe to say the "tea party" elections were a big joke excluding rand paul the only decent senator. Now let's just try to prevent the occupy movement from re-electing obama.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by bigwig22
Hi there,

i don't know if my reading abilities are bad but in fact, i've read the two bills (1450 and 1867) sections 1031, 1032 and 1033 of both, and it really says that US CITIZENS and LAWFUL ALIEN US RESIDENTS are EXCLUDED from those bills.

Bill 1450

Bill 1867

Am I the only one that took time to read them or I read the wrong parts?

Please correct me if i'm wrong.

Peace out.
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Did you take the time to actually read the responses in this thread? Apparently you didn't because this has been addressed more than once already.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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In fact, yes i did read the entire tread. The only places i've seen the opposite is when it was linked to a "newspaper" or other site. Nothing that shows directly in the Bills i've linked, where I can find those informations. Maybe there is a revised version of those bills that I don't know about?

I may have missed something in the process.

Would you be kind enough to point me the exact post or section in the bill? I hope so.

Peace out.
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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:42 PM
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yes you are indeed my friend

i cannot believe something like this was passed
its time the 99% took there country back

peace
moonpie



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:43 PM
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Oh here we go. The NWO fanboys raising their trumpets in glory. Preparing their signs that say "I told you so"...taking their place as the blessed bringers of light - the doomsayers aware of secret esoteric knowledge. smh. This is just a bunch of dot connecting. I don't see any reason for us to be put into these camps, or any way the government or world could benefit from it. This isn't anything new, martial law has been around for years and nothing has happened.

When we start getting thrown into camps or I get a knock at my door then you can spit in my face all you want. Until then, nada. I will not disagree though - this is a BIT fishy. If anything, it is just giving the central government far to much power. I think things are bad right now outside of the government, on the streets themselves - that was the main reason I bought a gun. But hey, what do I know? What proof do you guys have that we will actually get tossed into a camp? what is the "master plan" here? I'm not being smirky or sarcastic, I just really want to know.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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This can only end in two ways, We all bow down to the new masters and bend over and take it

Or when push comes to shove and they just start carting us off to camps it will start a Civil War/ the War against The these treasonous Criminals.

Only time will tell.

I'm not much to submitting or bending over So.......



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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All the more reason why re electing Obama is the only choice. This is the kind of leadership the GOP brings to the table.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:16 PM
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Good luck with that



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by DJM8507
The OP is probably not a Terrorist...

Good thing I love the United States with all my heart and mind and soul and I support what the leaders of our beautiful country do for us! These laws are meant to protect and serve the people and I am so excited for them to go into effect so that we can truly be a patriotically peaceful nation to ourselves and the world as we defend American Ideologies for all to benefit from! I TRUST THEM WITH ALL MY BEING!!!

God Bless Americans! God Bless Obama!!! God bless our Representatives!

GOD BLESS THE USA! SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!! GO GET THOSE TERRORISTS!!!

In Jesus name, AMEN...

I am safe, not sure about the rest of you guys here on ATS though...


From what? Your own government is now the one you are no longer safe from!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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The passing of this bill just made the DUTCH hourly MSM radio news.

This means the worldwide MSM finds this also somehow strange and/or important. Normally we do not get reports of US bills passing here on the news.

So either they are awake or ordered!

It seems that "friend and enemy" both find this bill extremely important!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Anyone have the Senate Tally as to who voted what?

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YEAs ---86
Akaka (D-HI)
Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Begich (D-AK)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Brown (R-MA)
Burr (R-NC)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coats (R-IN)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Coons (D-DE)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hagan (D-NC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Johnson (D-SD)
Johnson (R-WI)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lugar (R-IN)
Manchin (D-WV)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Portman (R-OH)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Rubio (R-FL)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Shelby (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Toomey (R-PA)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Vitter (R-LA)
Warner (D-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)

NAYs ---13
Cardin (D-MD)
Coburn (R-OK)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Durbin (D-IL)
Franken (D-MN)
Harkin (D-IA)
Lee (R-UT)
Merkley (D-OR)
Paul (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Sanders (I-VT)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 1
Moran (R-KS)

Senate Rollcall



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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:26 PM
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I don't know... ATS members are pretty suspicious... perhaps they should be detained and questioned......



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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All that trouble to stop Russia.
and make them like US!!!
and now we are like THEM!!!

China must be saying.
"see we had it right all along!"



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:02 PM
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Here lies the question, will the Police and Military enforce this?

Alex Takes Calls from Military & Police on Where They Stand with NDAA



Me thinks some if not many of our military will defect or join the Militias, I am right with them.


American Militia Commander Tells Congress They Are Running Out Of Time

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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 10:12 PM
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It's over. CNN Is reporting the Senate just approved the bill as-is. Congratulations America, we just signed away our Bill of Rights....this is the beginning of the end.





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