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Originally posted by 46ACE
Square that with this (from "liberty babe" Naomi Wolfe):
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Observor
Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.
Originally posted by 547000
reply to post by Observor
Don't be silly. Think about the USSR. The imprisonments of dissenters won't happen now but it is part of the long term plan.
Originally posted by Observor
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Observor
Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.
You mean George W applied it only to non-Americans and Obama wants it to apply to all?
If so, what Obama wants certainly makes sense. After all, if the US government can claim to detain any and every person in the world, why should American citizens be excluded? It is only fair that they too should be included.
Originally posted by thejlxc
Originally posted by Observor
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Observor
Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.
You mean George W applied it only to non-Americans and Obama wants it to apply to all?
If so, what Obama wants certainly makes sense. After all, if the US government can claim to detain any and every person in the world, why should American citizens be excluded? It is only fair that they too should be included.
Sure, if you're gonna make an immoral evil law, why not include everyone? WHA?????????????????????
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Observor
It gets messy with the legal issues. As US citizens our constitution protects us from detention without due process. That is the perk of being a citizen. Our rights are not to be extended to those who are citizens of other countries. Don't you get that? But now Obama wants to take away what our constitution guarantees us as CITIZENS. Why do you think so many people have wanted to come here for 200years? The scenery? There is no other country in the world that has protected it's citizens like America, until now.
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Miss Bush yet?
www.youtube.com...
This is not an 'attachment', but a link.
Senator Hutchison,
Please, take a minute and watch this; as I'm sure you've seen it already. Now is this video just anti-Obama rhetoric from a republican news outlet? Should I listen to FOX News liberal fear mongering? Or is my president really taking my rights away, misconstruing fact and fiction, and attempting to re-write the constitution? Bush implemented the Patriot Act...whops there go a few rights...and now we're on this slippery slope and Obama wants to imprison people for crimes they have not yet committed?
Why doesn't he focus on Detroit...that's where he's 'from' isn't he? There are people in Detroit...who are plotting to kill neighbors; they're called gang members and thugs. Lives are ALWAYS at risk...it's LIFE. We don't have a choice but to live it...and since 9/11 there hasn't been a single successful terrorist attack on America soil...but at the cost of what? Thousands of US soldiers, and countless deaths of civilians...hundreds of thousands by the hands of US and 'allied' troops. The ethics just don't match up:
Goal: Save American lives.
Strategy: Create wide spread fear of ALL muslim cultures, occupy and terrorize a foreign nation, surround nations that have been at war for their own reasons for thousands of years (like our 520 year old nations opinions matter to a culture that's seen the rise and fall of the Roman empire, the Ottoman-Turks, and Ganges Khan), take civilians rights away so you can protect us, while sending our brothers/cousins/fathers/sons into a war zone (in some cases more than 10 tours)...all to protect the 'rights' that you've taken away from us 17,000 miles away?
Please explain to me why any of this makes sense to anyone. I'm honestly afraid I might get locked up, like on one of the Jason Bourne espionage movies simply for stating the obvious...because according to MSNBC, Obama's cronies might show up at my door to arrest me for 'future crimes.'
Of course..I'm not going into full details, but I'm an educated, 25 year old white, upper middle class, independent business owner, residing in the greatest city on the earth, Austin, TX...and nothing in the last 11 years had made since to me...and I watched the towers fall from a TV in my 9th grade library...
...I love America. I love my life and the opportunities i have here...but with rights disappearing like they're out of style and no one saying anything to contradict impending socialism (which works until you run out of someone else's money)...what will my children have to be proud of?
Some of this might seem like rambling...and it is...I'm 99% sure you'll never read this, but instead some recent college grad will on his/her internship.
Good luck with your internship; study Law and History...not Politics.