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posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:06 AM
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If having the faces in the senate walls isnt enough to convince anyone I dont know what is !

I've been saying this for a very long time , that America is facist state , who controls almost every
aspect of the US.

Corporate controlled government , elected officials who are ceo's in these companies.
patriot act , TSA , CIA , NSA they all have the ability to check up on you without your permission.
The president aka Her Obama der Fuhrer now has the ability to incarcerate you or assassinate you
without legal trial.
We have FEMA camps for the political dissidents , we have a nation who wages war to inspire nationalism
and patriotism.
America is one goose step away from full blown facism.

It's only a matter of time before they start the genocide of american citizens , hell they are already killing everyone else.
It's my firm belief that the US was originally good thanks to the founding fathers and their constitution for the people , to protect and maintain their liberty and human rights.

However after world war 2 , america took the nazi facist playbook and used it to their advantage , they have been hiding behind the 2 party politics and now they are going to reveal their true identity.




posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by 46ACE
Square that with this (from "liberty babe" Naomi Wolfe):




Wow simply wow, i just got done watching this entire video, and everything she is saying happening right now. I have been a lurker here at ATS for some time now, this video and what she had to say has provoked me to create a account and post a comment, i am truly scared for our nation, our people, and our future i hope that something happens that stops where we are heading, whether it be peaceful or otherwise. I certainly hope that things can be resolved peacefully and in a way that will benefit our society for the greater good. I have been observing for some time the path the world, society, government is going down, and honestly i sometimes think god should strike us all down and start over but at the same time i think we can overcome. In the end it is up to us to pull together and make the necessary changes. I just hope we are not to late, only time will tell.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.

You mean George W applied it only to non-Americans and Obama wants it to apply to all?

If so, what Obama wants certainly makes sense. After all, if the US government can claim to detain any and every person in the world, why should American citizens be excluded? It is only fair that they too should be included.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by 547000
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Don't be silly. Think about the USSR. The imprisonments of dissenters won't happen now but it is part of the long term plan.

The difference would be the USSR was honest about it.

The USA won't have a problem. Regardless of what happens, Americans will keep praising it as the "land of the free and home of the brave". Reality never poses a problem for the deluded.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by Observor

Originally posted by timetothink
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Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.

You mean George W applied it only to non-Americans and Obama wants it to apply to all?

If so, what Obama wants certainly makes sense. After all, if the US government can claim to detain any and every person in the world, why should American citizens be excluded? It is only fair that they too should be included.


Sure, if you're gonna make an immoral evil law, why not include everyone? WHA?????????????????????




posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by thejlxc

Originally posted by Observor

Originally posted by timetothink
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Not American citizens...Obama took out the part that protected American citizens, he wants it to pertain to all people citizens or not.

You mean George W applied it only to non-Americans and Obama wants it to apply to all?

If so, what Obama wants certainly makes sense. After all, if the US government can claim to detain any and every person in the world, why should American citizens be excluded? It is only fair that they too should be included.


Sure, if you're gonna make an immoral evil law, why not include everyone? WHA?????????????????????


Whats your complaint about; that the law is immoral and evil or that it apllies to Americans as well? If it is the fomrer, talk about it. If it is the latter, I completely welcome Americans also receiving the same treatment that their government metes out to non-Americans.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 12:06 PM
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For Everyone here that Voted for Obama hows that "Hope and Change" working out lol



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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Its the american people's fault for letting this happen, Its our fault that we've let the Government take over allmost everything in exsistence. People should be paying more attention to whats going on and whats happend in the past and stop watching tv and sports and bull# that doesnt matter.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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America wake up! It is time to fight back for the sake of democracy, if Obama pass that bill America will be sure more hell than Russia or China, probably would be like North Korea. I think he is an anti-christ!



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:50 PM
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It is true about originally excluding US citizens. I sat up last night reading the first 6 drafts. It is over 600 pages long because it is the annual defense budget, sec 1031 is just a tiny part thrown in with standard budget stuff. The first 6 drafts did indeed exempt US citizens from detention. Word is the O. admin. forced the wording to be changed to include US citizens. I cannot find a draft of that.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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It gets messy with the legal issues. As US citizens our constitution protects us from detention without due process. That is the perk of being a citizen. Our rights are not to be extended to those who are citizens of other countries. Don't you get that? But now Obama wants to take away what our constitution guarantees us as CITIZENS. Why do you think so many people have wanted to come here for 200years? The scenery? There is no other country in the world that has protected it's citizens like America, until now.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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That's why you can't have an entitlement society and expect it to free. Whoever gives you money is your boss. The other problem is career politicians, which the founding fathers never wanted. We need term limits and lobbying to made illegal. Also an end to entitlements. That is the only way we can truely be free. Get rid of the alphabet soup of dept.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 05:11 PM
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I beleive the FEMA camps were instituted for a certain mentality of people.

Look at the video from 2007 black friday and realize this happens every year. The 2011 Black friday stampedes and violence was horrific and are getting worse every year.

People act like this while trying to get a christmas gift out of love for their family members. Just imagine how they will act when they are starving to DEATH and stampeding, scavenging, looting and stealing for food because of hunger.

These are the ones for which the camps were established.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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It gets messy with the legal issues. As US citizens our constitution protects us from detention without due process. That is the perk of being a citizen. Our rights are not to be extended to those who are citizens of other countries. Don't you get that? But now Obama wants to take away what our constitution guarantees us as CITIZENS. Why do you think so many people have wanted to come here for 200years? The scenery? There is no other country in the world that has protected it's citizens like America, until now.

Yeah, I totally understand that. Sure, the US constitution protects its citizens from the government while these citizens cheer their government and sing praises even as it brutualises, murders and plunders the non-citizens whether they are within its borders (like the natives and slaves in the past) or outside.

Yes, for over 200 years the crooks of the world have flocked to this nation to partake in the banditry and receive protection for being citizens and singing praises. But the protections were always meant to be for the 'insiders'. Replace 'citizens' with 'insiders' and you will be less disappointed/confused as to what is happening.



posted on Dec, 15 2011 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Miss Bush yet?


Nope, I don't miss the Texas Tyrant, but I have been missing Reagan since about 1990.



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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well its sure not the first time americans set up camps for prisoners of war on american soil. We shoved thousands of japenies in camps during ww2, im just afraid in this day and age with the amount of ignorance the public displays that the american goverment will soon enough not just imprison muslim americans but anyone they see fit labeling you a terrorist. Great post!



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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If Obama keeps up this tyranical behaviour its going to be the rest of the world trying to liberate americans for a change and install some democracy in their country!

Flip mode !

How much more can Americans take before they use the arms they have to overthrow this evil son of a bitch
the so called peace prize winner who wants to lock you all up for crimes you may commit !

Hitler died , but was either genetically salvaged and then reconstituted into Her Obama or he was reincarnated as Her Obama
edit on 16-12-2011 by sapien82 because: (no reason given)



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Senate passage !!!!!!


Any questions?????




www.sfgate.com.../c/a/2011/12/15/MNLI1MD4PG.DTL



posted on Dec, 16 2011 @ 01:45 AM
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This is what I just wrote to my Senator. LOL. Half way embarrassing, but at 2am...my rambling thoughts just kept piling up like a freeway accident.

ATS, let me know your thoughts.



www.youtube.com...

This is not an 'attachment', but a link.

Senator Hutchison,

Please, take a minute and watch this; as I'm sure you've seen it already. Now is this video just anti-Obama rhetoric from a republican news outlet? Should I listen to FOX News liberal fear mongering? Or is my president really taking my rights away, misconstruing fact and fiction, and attempting to re-write the constitution? Bush implemented the Patriot Act...whops there go a few rights...and now we're on this slippery slope and Obama wants to imprison people for crimes they have not yet committed?

Why doesn't he focus on Detroit...that's where he's 'from' isn't he? There are people in Detroit...who are plotting to kill neighbors; they're called gang members and thugs. Lives are ALWAYS at risk...it's LIFE. We don't have a choice but to live it...and since 9/11 there hasn't been a single successful terrorist attack on America soil...but at the cost of what? Thousands of US soldiers, and countless deaths of civilians...hundreds of thousands by the hands of US and 'allied' troops. The ethics just don't match up:

Goal: Save American lives.
Strategy: Create wide spread fear of ALL muslim cultures, occupy and terrorize a foreign nation, surround nations that have been at war for their own reasons for thousands of years (like our 520 year old nations opinions matter to a culture that's seen the rise and fall of the Roman empire, the Ottoman-Turks, and Ganges Khan), take civilians rights away so you can protect us, while sending our brothers/cousins/fathers/sons into a war zone (in some cases more than 10 tours)...all to protect the 'rights' that you've taken away from us 17,000 miles away?

Please explain to me why any of this makes sense to anyone. I'm honestly afraid I might get locked up, like on one of the Jason Bourne espionage movies simply for stating the obvious...because according to MSNBC, Obama's cronies might show up at my door to arrest me for 'future crimes.'

Of course..I'm not going into full details, but I'm an educated, 25 year old white, upper middle class, independent business owner, residing in the greatest city on the earth, Austin, TX...and nothing in the last 11 years had made since to me...and I watched the towers fall from a TV in my 9th grade library...

...I love America. I love my life and the opportunities i have here...but with rights disappearing like they're out of style and no one saying anything to contradict impending socialism (which works until you run out of someone else's money)...what will my children have to be proud of?

Some of this might seem like rambling...and it is...I'm 99% sure you'll never read this, but instead some recent college grad will on his/her internship.

Good luck with your internship; study Law and History...not Politics.





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