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Originally posted by iggy50
reply to post by filosophia
What is the goal of existence? What happens if it is not attained? Do we have choice, free will, to choose are existence?
Originally posted by iggy50
reply to post by filosophia
If the goal of existence is in free experiential expression, does it matter what or why?
Originally posted by clintdelicious
Your description of 'the origin' is nothing but annoying
14. What is that like? Tell me in exact detail.
In exact detail, the joy of the self is ever abiding, it is the same everyday of the year, is untouched by season or darkness, it is the conscious self within.
Originally posted by iggy50
reply to post by filosophia
Isn't truth a conclusion based on attachment and judgement and illusory? Wouldn't existence in essence be the eternal expression of all regardless of any choice or any result? Wouldn't any surmised goal or elevated expression of self be illusory?
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by filosophia
14. What is that like? Tell me in exact detail.
In exact detail, the joy of the self is ever abiding, it is the same everyday of the year, is untouched by season or darkness, it is the conscious self within.
This doesn't sound enjoyable.
Without clouds what is a sunny day?
The point of this life is to embrace and experience all of the carnal pleasures and pains that this existence can offer. Why would I want to short-circuit that and obtain surreal bliss and miss out on my experiences here as a human being?
I believe you are onto something, and I believe we are supposed to reach the level of enlightenment you describe, but I also believe if we reach it, we lose the need for this physical body and we abandon it. Isn't that what Buddha did?
So, it appears your journey is incomplete. While you are still here, please take the time to enjoy the experience..... even the pain. One thing all humans crave is emotion. The craving can be filled with adrenaline, love, depression, elation, or physical pain and pleasure, but it must be filled. If you are still inhabiting your physical body, then put it to good use!
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by filosophia
Great answer, but I'm still skeptical of the "pleasure" of everyday being the same?
I agree our "self" can obtain happiness from either the clouds or the sun, but I don't like the idea of everyday being the same.
I do understand the "choice" to stay and teach even after reaching enlightenment. I believe it was first a "choice" to inhabit this body at all. But, that is exactly the reason I am skeptical of living in an enlightened state. It seems to cheat you out of the whole human experience, and that was the purpose for choosing this life to begin with.
Originally posted by iggy50
reply to post by filosophia
What is the goal of existence? What happens if it is not attained? Do we have choice, free will, to choose are existence?