reply to post by woodwardjnr
Wont they just set up under a different name, remember MAC was Islam4UK before that group was banned.
But hopefully in the short term it's put a stop to the planned demo on Sunday - that could have been ugly if it had gone ahead and wouldn't have done
anyone any favours.
The long term objective has got to be the elimination of these extremist elements from British society.
How exactly we go about doing that is a very difficult question and it will take greater minds than mine to solve - but it does require a level of
openness, honesty and integrity that is sadly very rare at present.
Best thing to have done would have been to ignore the group from the beginning instead of giving them so much air time and column inches in the
Ignoring anything doesn't make it go away, that's just burying one's head in the sand and failing to report their actions is a form of censorship and
is a failure to report the truth to the people of the country.
Whilst I may not like what I hear I still want the facts and realities of world events being reported to me as impartially as possible.
I dislike the banning of anything - but I think it's fair to say that it's their own actions that has got them banned and not their beliefs.
reply to post by Sherlock Holmes
there is no evidence to suggest ''increasingly large sections of Muslim communities'' disregard British law.
Increasing numbers of Muslims are beginning to support organisations like Muslims Against Crusades, as extremist interpretations of Islam incease
their influence within Muslim communities.
British mosques are increasingly coming under the influence of various extremist groups and we are seeing an increase in the number of home-grown
And why else is there a higher percentage of Muslims in UK prisons than any other group?
And please don't say because of institutionalised racism - great strides have been made to eradicate that evil practice etc from British law etc - if
anything it's harder to gain a conviction as the evidence has to be cast iron otherwise claims of racial discrimination are pretty swift.
Why are you singling out criminally minded Muslims who are doing this, yet giving a free pass to the criminally minded non-Muslims who are doing
exactly the same ?
Because as you know there are large numbers of Muslim immigrants who automatically qualify for benefits and are granted the same freedoms and rights
as anyone else in this country and then try to take advantage of those freedoms and rights to try and completely change the very nature and fabric of
the society that has offered them sanctuary, impose their draconian belief system upon it and deny us the very freedoms they have exploited!
I've never said all Muslims.
And I don't see Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Animalist, Pagan, Wiccan, Satanism, Athiest or any other religious denomination immigrants trying to do
But criminals are criminals, end of.
When have British Muslims done this
Selective editing there Sherlock
I said 'actively seek' and there are numerous attempts at doing this and there have been countless number of occassions where Muslims have clearly
stated that this is their wish.
Do you deny this?
Surely being someone who takes an active interest in these matters you have seen the placards statingthe desire to impose Sharia, overthrow evil
democracy etc and surely you've see interviews with Anjem Choudray and his like openly stating his desire to do the same?
That they haven't succeeded yet has nothing to do with the apologists and PC brigade who actively turn a blind eye to the implications if these people
are allowed to succeed - your cherished support of their freedom of speech etc will mean nothing as they promptly deny you of all the freedoms they
I am not an alarmist who believes Britain is about to crumble under the imminent Muslim extremist tide - but I am aware of the threat they pose and I
believe the problem should be addressed now when we still have time and before bloody confrontation is inevitable.
You've read my posts in other threads and if you had paid any attention, not that there is any particular reason why you should have done, you would
be aware that I have many friends of different races, creeds and nationalities etc, even Muslims - it's not Muslims I dislike, it's Islam and in
paticular radical interpretations of it which I dislike.
I hope you can understand the differentiation.
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