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reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:25 PM by wasco2
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Ya know, I can't help but think you should read George Orwell's "Animal Farm" and get back to us.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:26 PM by charles1952
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I may be more easily frightened than you, but allowing one government to decide global issues will get into our bedrooms, and bathrooms, and kitchens.

Examples? What type of lightbulbs will we be using? How much water can our toilet or shower use? Population control leading to a Chinese birth policy? The use of herbs as dietary supplements? The Wisconsin raw milk controversy? What will be defined as "Hate Speech" and how it will be punished? What happens to internet privacy? Oh, there's more. But I'm scared enough, thank you.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:29 PM by rom12345
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Animal Farm was more about communism.

Orwell's book 1984 is more relevant.
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reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:39 PM by Aeons
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by Aeons


I may be more easily frightened than you, but allowing one government to decide global issues will get into our bedrooms, and bathrooms, and kitchens.

Examples? What type of lightbulbs will we be using? How much water can our toilet or shower use? Population control leading to a Chinese birth policy? The use of herbs as dietary supplements? The Wisconsin raw milk controversy? What will be defined as "Hate Speech" and how it will be punished? What happens to internet privacy? Oh, there's more. But I'm scared enough, thank you.


Yes, that is the problem. How to limit the powers of overseers has been the problem from the start hasn't it?

Not giving them ANY guidance will assure it.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:46 PM by rom12345
Originally posted by Aeons
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So don't give Global governance absolute power.


If I were so powerful as not to give a Global government absolute power, why would I need them at all.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:49 PM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
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But that is what the US has today and that is what many are saying they would fight for. It's already sold.


It is all ready sold to those who genuinely believe the tyranny of Congress is a good thing. Those who recognize that tyranny for what it is, such as I, use this recognition to speak to the O.P.'s wildly naive idealism. Why globalize the tyranny of legislatures? It makes no sense at all.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:56 PM by daskakik
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But tyranny is already globalized. There is no government on the planet that respects your idea of freedoms so what would really change? If nothing else at least some of the worse would be replaced by something better.

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reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 10:59 PM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


But tyranny is already globalized. There is no government on the planet that respects your idea of freedoms so what would really change?


There are millions of People across the world who respect the sanctity of life and the sacredness of Peoples rights. Should all of us surrender to all of you so you can have your fancy schmancy one world government? You know full well an engagement of ideas will not settle this, and the best you can do is point to the fact that historically tyranny is well armed and prepared to destroy the lives of those who oppose tyranny.


reply posted on 30-10-2011 @ 11:00 PM by charles1952
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Dear Aeons,

Thanks for your response, it's strangely pleasant talking in the dark. Even on subjects like this.

I'm afraid I have a common and unimaginative proposal to the problem of overseer power, don't let them have any. OK, I was trying for the dramatic, but I do like the principal that every problem should be solved at the most basic level, the level closest to the individuals involved.

Outside of World War III, a massive plague outbreak world-wide, or an alien invasion, I can't think of many global problems. Global warming? Maybe. Man-made global warming? Definitely not. The rest can be done by the nations involved joining into temporary working groups to solve.

At the national level, if D.C. had less money and power, it would be less corrupting (Lord Acton), and there would be less reason to try to corrupt it.

I'm afraid we're looking too far up the government ladder to find a solution to our troubles.

With respect,
Charles1952


P.s. Space program? The US doesn't want to do it anymore, but a private company does. No global power needed. Disaster relief? Countries that can help, do. A little like it is now. Basic human rights? Like the right to draw cartoons of the Prophet? The right to smoke illicit substances? (I don't know how careful I have to be to avoid the censors) Anyway, I don't think there will be agreement, so let each small group find their own.
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