Originally posted by DelayedChristmas
reply to post by steveknows
thus raises another question: if he fought under the flag of Christianity... why did he fight so hard against being baptized? kinda reminds me of a sheep in wolf's clothing...
Originally posted by WarminIndy
Originally posted by darkredfish
reply to post by WarminIndy
We never said you COULDN'T worship the devil, we just said that MOST DON'T and NOT ALL worship the devil.
Darkred, that is exactly my point. There were many Wiccans on this thread that said Wicca did not involve devil worship. But it can and does, even though there are Wiccans who do not. That is what we have to address then, if Wicca does allow worship of the devil, then Wicca is a complicit religion, meaning that even though there are those who do not, they are complicit when others do.
The problem becomes this, if Wicca is complicit, then it is disingenuous to deny what they allow while accepting those who do. I have never said anything mean-spirited or hateful to any Wiccan or Pagan on this thread. I have been very forward about what I believe and some have responded very nicely to me. Those are the ones who can teach the most about Wicca.
I think it would be better to say it like this "Even though I don't, I acknowledge that my religion allows it". But too often, Christians are held to a different standard and some Wiccans and Pagans want Christians held accountable for their religion. I took that task on because I am a Christian. But it is unfair to hold Christians accountable without holding Wiccans and Pagans accountable for theirs. If we are supposed to live in tolerance and acceptance, then it must be across the board. And no one should expect another to verify every point of religion, without having to verify their own. Fairness is as fairness does, and if we want to not persecute each other, then we should all be honest about our respective religions.
I think I have been fair all along and can say this has been a very intriguing conversation. Thank you all for your positive input. But there have been some who have posted on this thread who created other threads attacking Christian beliefs, taking the argument out of spite. That is sad and destructive. And it is not tolerant or accepting of other peoples faiths.
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by steveknows
Your census asks for your religious affiliation?
The US census is only to see how many people live in the US. It does break down by race ( another question that needs to go to the side of the road) and by income. (yet another) but thankfully it leaves religion out of the question.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I came to your OP rather late, but your words ring true. However, let us not haggle with the witches, if they wish to serve satan that is their right, then let us stand back and say nothing. They know the gospel, it is their right to heed it or not. Let those who choose to serve other "gods" serve those other gods. They will be held accountable for what they do in this life, as we shall be held accountable for what we do.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Originally posted by steveknows
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by steveknows
Your census asks for your religious affiliation?
The US census is only to see how many people live in the US. It does break down by race ( another question that needs to go to the side of the road) and by income. (yet another) but thankfully it leaves religion out of the question.
I don't see the problem with it myself as it means that a religion can stand up and be counted and this is what happened.
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I came to your OP rather late, but your words ring true. However, let us not haggle with the witches, if they wish to serve satan that is their right, then let us stand back and say nothing. They know the gospel, it is their right to heed it or not. Let those who choose to serve other "gods" serve those other gods. They will be held accountable for what they do in this life, as we shall be held accountable for what we do.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
Originally posted by Tindalos2013
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I came to your OP rather late, but your words ring true. However, let us not haggle with the witches, if they wish to serve satan that is their right, then let us stand back and say nothing. They know the gospel, it is their right to heed it or not. Let those who choose to serve other "gods" serve those other gods. They will be held accountable for what they do in this life, as we shall be held accountable for what we do.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
I came back to this thread and your ego amuses me. Despite the haggling of words if they have choosen to serve "god" than by jolly jove then that is their consideration to do so. They do not know the gospel but they do echo back its words with a dash of ignorance but they are forgiven for they know not what they say.
Jezebel has my sword and the earth is my shield. The new gods have fallen at the edges of the old gods.
The goddess looks on in wonder and waits.
Samuel 5. This is what awaits those who refuse to kneel before YHWH. Dagon found out the hard way that YHWH is soveriegn and he bows to no one especially other "gods".
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I came to your OP rather late, but your words ring true. However, let us not haggle with the witches, if they wish to serve satan that is their right, then let us stand back and say nothing. They know the gospel, it is their right to heed it or not. Let those who choose to serve other "gods" serve those other gods. They will be held accountable for what they do in this life, as we shall be held accountable for what we do.
As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.
satansource
The qualities and character of the creature known as satan are almost all debatable. He is thought to be a cherub or ex-cherub (Ezekiel 28:14 - though seemingly about the king of Tyre, obviously about a lot more), and he's been expelled from heaven (Job 1:6, Revelation 12:9). We know that he lead an insurrection, but it is highly unlikely that his following is organized in the way that God's following is organized. Suffice to say that he poses no threat to God and is certainly not an equal counter-pole.
