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Originally posted by randyvs
Stalins atheist regime alone murdered 20 million people. What does that say for their rights? Don't cry that this is an attack now . In deflection . )edit on 27-10-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by xxsomexpersonxx
People who believe in God don't try to commit genocide. No matter what they claim.
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"
1 Samuel 15:9 But Saul and the army spared Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves and lambs--everything that was good. These they were unwilling to destroy completely, but everything that was despised and weak they totally destroyed.
Originally posted by randyvs
Back on topic please.edit on 27-10-2011 by randyvs because: (no reason given)
Adam Jones explains, in his book Genocide: A Comprehensive Introduction, that people throughout history have always had the ability to see other groups as alien; he quotes Chalk and Jonassohn: "Historically and anthropologically peoples have always had a name for themselves. In a great many cases, that name meant 'the people' to set the owners of that name off against all other people who were considered of lesser quality in some way. If the differences between the people and some other society were particularly large in terms of religion, language, manners, customs, and so on, then such others were seen as less than fully human: pagans, savages, or even animals. (Chalk and Jonassohn, The History and Sociology of Genocide, p. 28.)"[8]
Originally posted by Tea4One
Atheism wasn't even in mass thought during the reformation. Even the most intellectual believed in a deity, atheism is only really a new thought. (New history wise). Before the reformation though atheists would have been burned for being heretics, tough life huh?
Originally posted by RedParrotHead
reply to post by Tea4One
I disagree - even the most intellectual said that believed in a deity...if they actually didn't they were smart enough to keep it to themselves. Anyone who truly believes in magical creatures can't be all that bright no matter when they happened to live.
Originally posted by Tea4One
reply to post by NOTurTypical
What was seen as heretics during those times were those who disagreed with the central religious authority. For example the catholic church had sighted protestants as heretics due to their criticisms of the church. So if you were an atheist (which was seemingly unlikely) you would have been seen as against the church. Later on though, in England at least, they would have been hanged under the blasphemy laws.
Originally posted by Tea4One
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I didn't say they were heretics. Im saying they would have been seen and treated likes heretics at the time, especially by the catholic church. You think the Spanish inquisition didn't end up at the door of atheists?
In the 15th century there was considerable hostility towards the Jews throughout Europe.
During the 16th century the Spanish Inquisition began to target Protestants.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Tea4One
I hear what you're saying, but isn't that just colorful conjectures? Atheists, if they existed, would not have been a threat at all to the Roman Catholic church.
Originally posted by Tea4One
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Tea4One
I hear what you're saying, but isn't that just colorful conjectures? Atheists, if they existed, would not have been a threat at all to the Roman Catholic church.
It's mere speculation of course. It's hardly concrete. Maybe not, but they may have seen it as religious duty to deal with them. As I said though, mere speculation.
Anywho, sleep. Nice debating with you. Im glad I joined this site... bye.
Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
How can not believing in something be a 'conspiracy'...?