posted on Oct, 26 2011 @ 05:08 PM
Originally posted by Aim64C
reply to post by AnonymousFem
And say to me the Police was justified in what they did. And also how do you feel now, one of those who fought for your country, has now been
He should have known better. We're trained to avoid such shenanigans for a reason. You end up being -the- 5-O'Clock news.
People love soldiers in their own way. To some, they are romantic, gallant figures; to others, they represent everything that they fear. The actions
us military personnel take in the civilian world tend to carry immense weight because of our famous/infamous marginalization.
He shouldn't have been there, plain and simple. His status as a veteran should have been left out of the issue, entirely. His -individual- actions
reflect upon the uniform he once wore.
He's now been injured and compromised. If "# hits the fan" and we do need armed citizens - he's out of commission and also labeled himself as a
threat to various parties in the wings.
Hence why I don't ever show up at protests/demonstrations. I'll be there when it matters, voting on legislation or participating in open floor
discussions; or stalking through the streets with an assault rifle in pursuit of enemies - there's not much need to draw more attention to myself or
my affiliations than that.
I found your post very thought provoking and raising some very good points. I can certainly see and understand that point of view too. It wouldn't
have been any better if this had happened to an ordinary civilian and I know its easy to get lost in the emotion but I suppose its just because of the
...whats the word? Irony? Its not the right word but the best I can do right now.
I mean, he did his time in Hell (combat), came home, went to a protest some time later and became a serious casualty himself. Like a previous poster
mentioned, in this clip there is little footage of what happened before he got hit with the cannister (rubber bullet was the first report on ATS) or
caused things to become so escalated but it did look pretty wild to me.
I do not agree with your point about his actions "reflecting" (I assume you mean that in a negative way). Why should having performed military
service exclude someone from having an opinion or the right to voice that by their presence at a peaceful protest? Whether it is a smart thing to do
is another matter and for every individual to decide I think. I remember John Kerry being in a protest years ago. He almost made it to Presidential
status many years later. Some people actually claim he did win but the vote was rigged. I digress. I did double check, the injured man is wearing at
least a camoflagey type shirt but open and with a civilian t shirt on. Friends in civilian dress shout "Medic!" which sounds like a battlefield cry
so they could possibly be fellow veteran friends but they are citizens in this instance.
It is at least nice to hear you have a cool and clear head and are ready and waiting if that time should come though without. I think some vets are
possibly just trying to lend moral support and possibly experience in hostile situations and that is just brotherly and imho also to be respected.
Respect is not the same as admire. It leaves you free ;-)
It went differently in New York I think it was. A rather large African American veteran in camos had a very different effect on the Police there. He
was shouting, pure reason. And boy were they listening to him. He had something like 8-10 Police Officer's almost in a daze. You could see by the
look on their faces that they were almost listening to his words. It was poetry in motion. No violence at all. His body language came more over as if
he was pleading with them. He ended up on some talk show.
Anyway, good points you made. Made me think a little. Thanks.
My thoughts and heart to the injured man. I hope he receives good medical attention and recovers speedily.