Occupy Melbourne Protestors clashing with police (w/ video)

protests on hold for the next week

thanks for that, how thoughtful! Might head to the city tonight after all for some Saturday nightlife.

Originally posted by OzTruth
reply to post by srsen

 

Melbourne City Square is not Wall St.

Australia is not 14 trillion dollars in debt.

Australia is not America.

Get a life. Occupy a job.

Or move to China, Pakistan or Iran and see how far you get?

Seriously dude - just stop it. No-one wants to read such confrontational attitudes. Your welcome to your opinion,a ndyour welcome to disagree, but show a little respect. Express your opinioin in an intelligent way - like perhaps responding to my earlier post reagrding the Occupy movements intentions.

And i'll say again, im not expressely a fan of the Occupy movement. I feel the greatest way to affect change is if every person on the planet simply works on themselves - drop the ego, drop the hatred and judgement, look after others and try to be as understanding and empathetic of other people's views and circumstances as possible. If every indidivual did this then the world would change overnight.

In the meantime however, this doesnt happen, so we must piggyback movements such as Occupy to make any impact at all. I honestly suspect the movement has been hijacked at this point and is no longer holding the same focus it did when it started.

The media has painted it as a PURELY banker related protest - its not.

Its about the people at the top of the power structure, aka the 1%, who pull all the strings, who fabircate a monetary system based on invenitng value for paper, giving out imaginary credit loans and then charging interest on this non-existent credit to make near unlimited wealth. They control our lives, we become slaves to the dollar because of them. They manipulate us, they do not care. They hapily send us to fake wars to kill and be killed. And they dont hesitate to do the dirty work themselves either. They rape the planet and blame it on us! They profit from pharmaceuticals instead of trying to heal people. It is these bastards who the protest is aimed at. THIS is what Occupy was about - not all money. Please PLEASE realise that.

i mean, if you support this kind of thing, then thats your perogative, but i personally find it disgusting in the extreme and will do what i can to send a message. Not that they really care anyway TBH

And telling me to get a life and a job??? That's not cool at all and i guarentee you lost all respect on this site moving forward.

The Police have broken up the Protestors in Sydney this morning. 40 arrests.

occupySYDNEY Occupy Sydney by OccupyMELBOURNE #occupysydney peaceful protest camp attacked smashed by police abt 20 mins ago est 40 plus arrests

In this article the police deny the use of excessive force and apparently tried to negotiate with the protestors to allow them to remain onsite during daylight hours only.

Article here

Forty people were arrested after police, including riot squad officers, raided the site shortly before 5am today and cleared the area of more than 100 protesters. The group had been at Martin Place for over eight days as part of a global campaign against capitalist greed. Protesters said they were given little warning before police descended on the group and manhandled them off the site. But Mr Murdoch said protesters were given plenty of warning and refused to leave by linking their arms together. "We encountered varying levels of resistance from the protesters," Mr Murdoch said. "That resistance was met with a commensurate use of force.

reply to post by srsen


Since the dawn of time there as always been a 1%, whether it be a king, a pharaoh, a dictator, or a government. A bunch of rag tag uni students that have brought into the whole left wing agenda of Americans does not reflect the 99% of Australians and that's a fact. Like I said most of us are very happy with the current status of the Australian Economy and Lifestyle. It is easy to dream and fantasize about the 99% having more control but give me one example of where this has ever occured in human history. What do you or they want? A 50/50? come on surely you can see these protests are fruitless and nothing but a detriment to the true 99% of us. No empathy here, people need to realize success and wealth comes from hard work and commitment. Not sitting on your backside promoting for left wing socialism or communism. Hence why now even the Sydney protesters are being moved along. If they had a genuine reason to protest then you would see more support. But at the moment you can clearly see the majority of the 99% don't buy into this George Soros type occupy BS. these movements are designed to insight economic disruption for the push to NWO, a global dollar, creating angst and uncertainity in preparation for a collapse. Luckily for us real Autralians this won't happen because the majority are like me and won't support such BS. tell me what do they hope to achieve, outline what they want to happen and how they expect it to work. I am interested to see what you come up with??

Friday re-confirmed my view of these protests. There is absolutely no clearly outlined goals or objectives of that bunch and the groups there who actually have a clue (spirit of eureka org, unions etc.) who were handing out A4 pieces with solutions dot pointed were the ones just being basically disregarded.

Fridays march ended up in the car park of the library where, anyone who wanted to address the crowd was welcomes to the megaphone. I got pretty bloody sick of hearing the commie BS and rantings of bored uni students who appear to be participating merely for the image of it and the fact that socioeconomic and political awareness is really a new thing for them.

I don't see anything positive coming from this and I now even more so smell the red rat back at the point of origin. If any changes are made by TPTB due to all of this, it has been pre-orchestrated and these protesters will be giving eachother hugs and high fives not realizing they've played straight in to the hands of tptb.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see...*sigh* yes, the new world order but under a socialist regime.

Check the thread about red October 2011 in my signature. After being on the ground and getting a taste of it first hand I stand by that point of view even more so.

Don't just get caught up in the excitement of it all, stand back and have a good look, give some thought to evaluating the whole situation.

reply to post by Pirateofpsychonautics


Good to see you clarify your stance. That's basically the whole point I've been trying to make for weeks.

reply to post by outsidethesquare


Yep, I've given it a lot of thought, looked at it from both sides, EXPERIENCED it from both sides and am now in the best position possible to make a decision.

It's a load of bollocks. With proper leadership, clear objectives/agenda and various groups NOT using it to further whatever minority political/social organisation they represent it could have legs, but it doesn't.

I refuse to waste any more of time and be seen as part of it.

Originally posted by OzTruth
.... tell me what do they hope to achieve, outline what they want to happen and how they expect it to work. I am interested to see what you come up with??

What do THEY hope to achieve?

You would have to ask them, i am not one of them. I assume they are seeking social change and to send a message to TPTB that we are aware and want change.

As i said, i am not all over them loving the movement. I am not even sure if half of them know what they want. If the heads of Government showed up today at a protest and 'we will give you anything you want' - im sure there would 2 or 3 ideas and not much else.

But as i said earlier, the Occupy movement is the best thing we have going at the moment so its better than nothing. Its senidng some kind of message hopefully and theonly reason i even supported it midly was because it was something - as opposed to nothing.

Which brings me to the next point.....

Originally posted by Pirateofpsychonautics
Fridays march ended up in the car park of the library where, anyone who wanted to address the crowd was welcomes to the megaphone. I got pretty bloody sick of hearing the commie BS and rantings of bored uni students who appear to be participating merely for the image of it and the fact that socioeconomic and political awareness is really a new thing for them.

I don't see anything positive coming from this and I now even more so smell the red rat back at the point of origin. If any changes are made by TPTB due to all of this, it has been pre-orchestrated and these protesters will be giving eachother hugs and high fives not realizing they've played straight in to the hands of tptb.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see...*sigh* yes, the new world order but under a socialist regime.

Originally posted by Pirateofpsychonautics
Yep, I've given it a lot of thought, looked at it from both sides, EXPERIENCED it from both sides and am now in the best position possible to make a decision.

It's a load of bollocks. With proper leadership, clear objectives/agenda and various groups NOT using it to further whatever minority political/social organisation they represent it could have legs, but it doesn't.

I refuse to waste any more of time and be seen as part of it.

See, this i can relate to. You went there, open-mindedly, gave it a shot, and came back with an opinion.

And to OzTruth too, i am not so egotystical that i wont see all sides. I actually agree with pirateofpsychonautics summation here.

I strongly think that MANY of the protestors are there for self-interest and, to quote pirate "who appear to be participating merely for the image of it and the fact that socioeconomic and political awareness is really a new thing for them."

I tend to think the movement was hijacked early on and that it is likely being steered in whatever direction TPTB would like - which yes could be a more socialist golbal government.

But i must say, again. My main support for Occupy was that it was something to hold onto. I didnt support it for the reason many of the protestors did. I supported it because i felt it was a chance to say "we are not your slaves!" "we are aware of the game you are playing with us!" "we are not happy about it!"... VERY few of the occupy Sydney or Melbourne protestors would agree with my viewpoint on it.

I am happy now to state my opinion, that it is likely a movement which will go nowhere in Australia. The US protests are getting interesting still however. I am suspicious of the movements true motvies. But i 100% am against the way the police are handling it. IMO, very porrly done and was uncalled for as far as aggression goes.