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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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-foreknowledge:

ISBN 1-56171-269-8

published in 1993 and written by the head of the Republican Task force on terrorism and unconventional warfare.

I knew we were under attack from the first plane and all I did was read the book. Tell me nobody inside the government had this forewarning by some 7 or 8 years also. While we are at it lets look at

-propensity to shape world events and meddle in International affairs. The reason why America is so hated is our foreign policy, NOT our freedoms as you keep hearing about (or would you rather a direct quote from the head of the task force instead? )

ISBN 1-84100-139-2

Many insights into not only history and covert actions across decades, but an invaluable look at the insiders and victims. many do not even know who James Forrestal was, a former secretary of defense (also an MJ12 member) who was silenced. They will stop at nothing to protect themselves, Not one murder, not a million murders. There is no sanctity of life when all are nothing but statistical data.


-Motive:

ISBN 0-310-53921-8

nice graph included in this one but perhaps a simpler observation dealing with only one country would be easier to understand

www.eia.gov...

interesting who was allowed to fly on 911 never mind all the supposed hijackers were Saudi but what is more interesting is the world reserves in billions of barrels and the distribution lays out like this

1) Saudi Arabia
2) Iraq
3) Kuwait
4) Iran

Now this info I am looking at goes back to 1990 info yet the way it looks even on paper is that Iran is next... don't be surprised when the world goes to war

5) Abu Dhabi
6) Venezuela
7) Soviet Union
8) Mexico

But I did say the OS was bunk and I am not without proof...


Google Video Link


I have yet to hear any explanations coming from the debunkers, in fact they all go quiet and silence speaks volumes... whats more, watch how fast the front page will get in the attempt to bury this thread asap without commenting or drawing attention to it. They will bump older threads, comment on days old messages, even talk back and forth between themselves (one person has many id's) in order to flood the front page and initiate a forum slide of the truth they do not want to come out.

But lets not stop at the proof of the lies being pushed on the people, lets go to the evidence of explosive demolition and listen to it for yourself.

The most pristine video of that day and filmed 9 seconds away as sound travels from the towers to the Hoboken shore...



Google Video Link


Get over the irritating tone of the narration and comprehend it was done with a gotya outlook as it is definite proof of explosives.

Although in all honesty you shouldn't need any more proof than your own eyes and the horror of 3000 people being turned into tiny bone fragments that ten years later all are still being found and are not identified (so how could Popular Mechanics even tempt to say the hijackers were immediately identified in the rubble and by using DNA no less)

Liars, and if you believe the lies and promote the OS then you too are as guilty of mass murder in your collusion.

What is sad is that no matter how many truths I post here it won't change the pro's here who have a job to do regardless of whether it is truth or fiction. They do not get paid to think but to keep certain doors closed and this is one of them.

Again, silence speaks volumes and there is nothing here they can twist into lies so the ploy will be to bury it as quietly and as quickly as possible.

prove me right...

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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If you're lucky, you may actually be told that all this info comes from "damn fool conspiracy sites."

I've seen that line more times than I care to remember. Good luck.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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A 9/11 thread? Not getting much attention lately.
I tried naming suspects a few days ago.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Not a lot of people want evidence, they want a conspiracy full of debatable holes.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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I almost thought there had been another attack when I saw this.




posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 12:51 AM
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Let me ask you something OP. Well first, let me say this. I am a Truther and was on WeAreChangeNY years ago.
No longer. Not that my opinions has changed rather I'm to the point of: 'now what?'

What does it matter if more people believe what we believe? What difference will it make? How will it change or affect anything?
No one will be arrested (like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld) if more people believed like we believed. So again, what's it to you? I ask that facetiously because I was once like you.

I wanted every single damn person on this planet to feel and know everything I felt and believed. I was on a quest to open up every single set of eyeballs out there. But now I ask myself..................why? It won't change a thing.

Our country is literally on the brink of ruins and this global system is about to crumble.
What does it matter if someone chooses not to see that day the way you and I and a million others do?

At the end of the day, government criminals always get their way!



PS. 9-11 was an inside job!
I



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Why are you

A: calling people names before you even hear them, and
B: putting the reasons why your thread will fail in it, so as to somehow predict what will happen?

Oh I must be one of them..

good luck!




posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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people just don't care anymore.

it is as if it was a 7 day wonder and now they are onto something else.

sad really. I saw a handbook for demolitions, twin towers was in there.. (the perfect demolition)

I could not believe my eyes!

If it were not a demoltion why was it in a handbook illustrated as one?

I think people feel powerless to actually do anything about it so they don't care.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:01 AM
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Good work whoever did that!!

Now how would they go about getting an entire city to see that outside of a monitor.

Hrmm..




posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:11 AM
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reply to post by Ha`la`tha
 


The point I used it for really, is just to show how no video or image can be trusted.

That's all.
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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
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Let me ask you something OP. Well first, let me say this. I am a Truther and was on WeAreChangeNY years ago.
No longer. Not that my opinions has changed rather I'm to the point of: 'now what?'

What does it matter if more people believe what we believe? What difference will it make? How will it change or affect anything?
No one will be arrested (like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld) if more people believed like we believed. So again, what's it to you? I ask that facetiously because I was once like you.

I wanted every single damn person on this planet to feel and know everything I felt and believed. I was on a quest to open up every single set of eyeballs out there. But now I ask myself..................why? It won't change a thing.

Our country is literally on the brink of ruins and this global system is about to crumble.
What does it matter if someone chooses not to see that day the way you and I and a million others do?

At the end of the day, government criminals always get their way!



PS. 9-11 was an inside job!
I

first let me thank you all for commenting.

Human_Alien I have been here before, Since 911 I took up the truth banner and waved the flag of patriotism in thinking it was what I should do. I stood for truth thinking it served the dead better than just ignoring the problem... then I drifted away only to come back to truth eventually..

Why I do it is probabl6y more confusing since I risk it all being only a resident alien in America and yet I would rather live with my conscience than live under a lie.... and am still not even allowed a vote

Why I persist when even Americans refuse to wake up is something I ponder a lot yet still come back to a sense of justice for those who never saw the case in a courtroom and can't even see it from a grave as they weren't afforded that luxury and were instead just disposed of like trash in a landfill named fresh kills.

Why do I feel a moral outrage when America would rather not know, would rather watch monday night football or American idol or anything but the truth that would take them out of their comfort zone?

Because I know that it is not over. I know millions of dead and counting aren't able to speak out and if I don't who will? Complacency is as much a part of the problem and is also sending a message of compliance. The message I send is my eyes are open so don't think another attack will go by without even more intense scrutiny and in that thought lay the hope of preventing another victim filled day.

Yeah, I understand the apathy all too well but what alternative is there? They can silence me but my soul will have stood for what is right and not just for what is right for me.

It is what makes me human and above the animal kingdom with its biggest dog on top mentality.. I prefer the thoughts of justice winning out over the best justice money can buy..

I guess I also feel grief for America . as a Nation and hate it when Americans act like nothing to see here, move along.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:33 AM
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It's terrible that I'm saying this but... you're right. It doesn't matter, the sheep will follow the herder and the few sheep that manage to "stray" will realize its not worth teaching the other sheep.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:38 AM
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Dude, you just posted 2-1/2 hours of youtube videos without providing context. The OP is supposed to frame the discussion.

All you've said is "watch these videos. They make my case for me."

There's nothing to discuss. You've sabotaged your own thread.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
reply to post by anoncoholic
 


Why are you

A: calling people names before you even hear them, and
B: putting the reasons why your thread will fail in it, so as to somehow predict what will happen?

Oh I must be one of them..

good luck!



I have heard them, repeatedly since 911 as this isn't my first forum and the methodology is learned over time. The reasons the thread will fail is it is too much damage to control so the best defense against it is to act like it doesn't exist. I mentioned older threads being bumped and was watching... maybe you missed it but that Jackie O thread suddenly surfacing is one of them and the reason I know it is it is exactly the same story used on another forum when something needed being buried. I know becasue I also posted all this info in other places over the years and it is without fail a thread that will initiate a forum slide.

Funny they don't comprehend that some of us visit more than just a single forum and they do leave track records of what they post and count on it, any time this thread rises more of the older threads will surface because they try to lend it an air of legitimate conversation but aren't fooling the observant.

You posted here and bumped it so I do not think you have the agenda others here have. In all honesty you would have been told not to comment on it otherwise it only draws more attention to it .



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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by DrEugeneFixer
reply to post by anoncoholic
 


Dude, you just posted 2-1/2 hours of youtube videos without providing context. The OP is supposed to frame the discussion.

All you've said is "watch these videos. They make my case for me."

There's nothing to discuss. You've sabotaged your own thread.



DUD I am not saying anything new. My siggy has a link to the audio clip that remains unanswered and the second video is explained as proof of explosives so how exactly are you failing at comprehension?

Nothing to discuss with you apparently as you refuse to view the evidence and as stated several times on different threads you still refuse to address the proof but instead try to shoot the messenger.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 02:14 AM
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That guy from Popular Mechanics is just falling all over himself. And I bet he's the most well versed they have on the subject. Pathetic really. Only half way thru. Very interesting OP.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 02:17 AM
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The average person doesn't want to believe physics. They want to believe the TV.

As you go along your journey you will really understand how stupid most people are. Ignorance is running rampant thru most people, even our elders which we are told to respect.

The only truth is your own perception and by trying to push your perception upon others makes you look ignorant because everyone comes from a different place and has different values.

That being said, I agree with you. Hitler said it best.

All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people.
Adolf Hitler

All propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.
Adolf Hitler

Any alliance whose purpose is not the intention to wage war is senseless and useless.
Adolf Hitler

Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.
Adolf Hitler

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.
Adolf Hitler

As soon as by one's own propaganda even a glimpse of right on the other side is admitted, the cause for doubting one's own right is laid.
Adolf Hitler

By the skillful and sustained use of propaganda, one can make a people see even heaven as hell or an extremely wretched life as paradise.
Adolf Hitler

Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future.
Adolf Hitler

Generals think war should be waged like the tourneys of the Middle Ages. I have no use for knights; I need revolutionaries.
Adolf Hitler

Germany will either be a world power or will not be at all.
Adolf Hitler

Great liars are also great magicians.
Adolf Hitler

Hate is more lasting than dislike.
Adolf Hitler

He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.
Adolf Hitler

How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
Adolf Hitler

Humanitarianism is the expression of stupidity and cowardice.
Adolf Hitler

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Adolf Hitler

I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature.
Adolf Hitler

I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker.
Adolf Hitler

I use emotion for the many and reserve reason for the few.
Adolf Hitler

If today I stand here as a revolutionary, it is as a revolutionary against the Revolution.
Adolf Hitler



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:03 AM
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OP:
Ready to discuss the Pentagon yet?



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:13 AM
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reply to post by Human_Alien
 


I think we need to understand what it is these people feel they are losing. If they admit that the OS is BS ?
One thing I believe they will not accept is the fact that men can actually be this evil. Especially men they have voted for and looked up to. I think it would just shatter them if they were forced to see that. They believe the lone gunman too.

I mean if they don't get it by now, they never will and it can only be because they don''t want to, by any means.
So I toss in a few bones here and there, but it's a waste of time to try and talk sense to them. You and I will never be the difference for them. They will either come to it themselves someday or never.
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Maybe this is a good profile.

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posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 04:55 AM
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Now thats harsch. Maybe they genuinely believe in it the way people believe in allah or god.



posted on Oct, 19 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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Calling us trolls on it huh?

You cannot even get the nationalities of the hijackers straight (hint: they weren't all Saudis) and you claim the "OS" is proven false. Then you mention all those people who were "allowed" to fly on 9/11. Umm, yeah....on US Government jets, escorted by US Air Force jets and supervised by the FBI. It made it a lot easier for the FBI to interrogate the members of the Bin Laden family that were in the country that day.





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