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When did Stellarium become the know all see all of star gazing?

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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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You asked a question.

Many people answered that question.

What's the problem?




posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Stellarium is a free open sourced software, that means anyone with the know how and ability can edit it. I like it, it always shows what I see in the sky, and if I wanted to I could put in Elenin
and track that. Nobody said it was the know all see all, but it has most things in there.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by busterbunni
Try asking anyone on here a question about the stars and see how many times people respond with check Stellarium...

If you ask "how do I put a nail in a wall" most people will give you the same answer, "use a hammer".


Meaning that is the only way.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by busterbunni

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by busterbunni
Try asking anyone on here a question about the stars and see how many times people respond with check Stellarium...

If you ask "how do I put a nail in a wall" most people will give you the same answer, "use a hammer".


Meaning that is the only way.


So I will ask again:
What do you use? Anything? Nothing? Do you feel that the existence of stars, planets, asteroids, nebula, etc. is a lie?



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by busterbunni

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by busterbunni
Try asking anyone on here a question about the stars and see how many times people respond with check Stellarium...

If you ask "how do I put a nail in a wall" most people will give you the same answer, "use a hammer".


Meaning that is the only way.


No, meaning you get better results using a tool specifically made for the task at hand.

While I have driven many a nail with a shoe, a hammer works much better.

If I want to identify something in the night sky, I use Stellarium.

Why? Because it works.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6

Originally posted by busterbunni

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by busterbunni
Try asking anyone on here a question about the stars and see how many times people respond with check Stellarium...

If you ask "how do I put a nail in a wall" most people will give you the same answer, "use a hammer".


Meaning that is the only way.


So I will ask again:
What do you use? Anything? Nothing? Do you feel that the existence of stars, planets, asteroids, nebula, etc. is a lie?


I use all available rescources I can find to answer a question when I have one. The question comes first and I try to look at many sites, as well as other peoples observation to arrive at a conclusion that I find to be plausible at that time. That doesn't mean my question is answered because I continue to observe and take into account other sources. I try to keep an open mind because I don't have the knowledge of absolute certainty, and I also assume other people use some of the same techniques as myself. I believe in the existence of things we can hear and see as well as things we can't. The only thing I can say with absolute faith is that I don't know everything and everything I do know I try to question. I'm glad other people feel the same way because the speed of light has been broken and without that constant questioning it never would have been.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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I'm glad other people feel the same way because the speed of light has been broken and without that constant questioning it never would have been.


About that, you might want to read this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Check out the full article from the OP's source to.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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I'm glad other people feel the same way because the speed of light has been broken and without that constant questioning it never would have been.


About that, you might want to read this:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


I have taken that into consideration while I take into consideration that if something that incredible happened it would dislodge so much of what we consider science to be that there is no way the powers that be would let that information be true. It can't be true that we broke the speed of light because that would mean everything in our system of knowledge is off kilter. There's just too much money invested in the thought that the speed of light can't be broken.
Check out the full article from the OP's source to.

edit on 15-10-2011 by busterbunni because: formatting



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:17 PM
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Originally posted by Pauligirl

Originally posted by busterbunni

Originally posted by ArMaP

Originally posted by busterbunni
Try asking anyone on here a question about the stars and see how many times people respond with check Stellarium...

If you ask "how do I put a nail in a wall" most people will give you the same answer, "use a hammer".


Meaning that is the only way.


No, meaning you get better results using a tool specifically made for the task at hand.

While I have driven many a nail with a shoe, a hammer works much better.

If I want to identify something in the night sky, I use Stellarium.

Why? Because it works.



The "fact" that the Earth was flat worked for a looooong time also.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:19 PM
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I have taken that into consideration while I take into consideration that if something that incredible happened it would dislodge so much of what we consider science to be that there is no way the powers that be would let that information be true. It can't be true that we broke the speed of light because that would mean everything in our system of knowledge is off kilter. There's just too much money invested in the thought that the speed of light can't be broken.


Although you put the above into my "quote" I just wanted to say that I never wrote that.

Believe what you want, obviously. Maybe all you have ever seen, felt or thought is a dream of yours while you have been laying in a coma...
just as possible I suppose.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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The "fact" that the Earth was flat worked for a looooong time also.


It was mathematically proven round centuries BCE by an Alexandria librarian/thinker.


The librarian was a Creek named Eratosthenes. A universal mind, he was a mathematician, a specialist in history, an astronomer, and a poet besides. And around 250 B.C. he did something almost incredible in those times. Eratosthenes measured accurately the girth of the planet he lived on!


Source
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posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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I have taken that into consideration while I take into consideration that if something that incredible happened it would dislodge so much of what we consider science to be that there is no way the powers that be would let that information be true. It can't be true that we broke the speed of light because that would mean everything in our system of knowledge is off kilter. There's just too much money invested in the thought that the speed of light can't be broken.


Although you put the above into my "quote" I just wanted to say that I never wrote that.

Believe what you want, obviously. Maybe all you have ever seen, felt or thought is a dream of yours while you have been laying in a coma...
just as possible I suppose.


My apologies.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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The "fact" that the Earth was flat worked for a looooong time also.


It was mathematically proven round centuries BCE by an Alexandria librarian/thinker.


The librarian was a Creek named Eratosthenes. A universal mind, he was a mathematician, a specialist in history, an astronomer, and a poet besides. And around 250 B.C. he did something almost incredible in those times. Eratosthenes measured accurately the girth of the planet he lived on!


Source
edit on 10/15/2011 by Chamberf=6 because: link


If only it had been accepted as common knowledge right away we may have saved humanity a lot of aniexty. Unfortunately that was not the case.
edit on 15-10-2011 by busterbunni because: grammar



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:49 PM
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Actually it was accepted pretty much right away. Even when Christianity became the predominant religion in the Western world it was a widely accepted fact. The belief that Europe believed in a flat Earth until Columbus comes from a fictional account of Columbus' life. In truth the reason no one would support Columbus was not because he thought the Earth was round but because he grossly underestimated the size of the Earth and based his estimates on the writings of a bishop.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 09:56 PM
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It's obvious here that we have another student of denial and with this great gift he proved Einstein's ToR to be wrong. I see so many of these kinds of people with no higher degrees of education in the specific fields they seem to know better, that use a calculator to balance their checkbook, and such disrespect of the field comes from not ever being in the groundwork of said field.

Everything seems easier before you try. I run up to nearing a deadline on a project I have yet to develop a creative on and in my mind runs this scenario of it getting done effortlessly like one of the simple success flashes I may have had in the past. That is until I sit down to work it out and all of a sudden I'm like so far behind I can't sleep.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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Actually it was accepted pretty much right away. Even when Christianity became the predominant religion in the Western world it was a widely accepted fact. The belief that Europe believed in a flat Earth until Columbus comes from a fictional account of Columbus' life. In truth the reason no one would support Columbus was not because he thought the Earth was round but because he grossly underestimated the size of the Earth and based his estimates on the writings of a bishop.


Not according to what they teach children in school today, so how was it accepted as common knowledge way back then but not taught as fact thereafter?



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Illustronic
It's obvious here that we have another student of denial and with this great gift he proved Einstein's ToR to be wrong. I see so many of these kinds of people with no higher degrees of education in the specific fields they seem to know better, that use a calculator to balance their checkbook, and such disrespect of the field comes from not ever being in the groundwork of said field.

Everything seems easier before you try. I run up to nearing a deadline on a project I have yet to develop a creative on and in my mind runs this scenario of it getting done effortlessly like one of the simple success flashes I may have had in the past. That is until I sit down to work it out and all of a sudden I'm like so far behind I can't sleep.


If you have deadlines to meet you should be elsewhere than in frivolous discussion no?



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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As I said, it's due to a fictional account of Columbus' life. The work of 19th century historian Andrew Dickson White didn't help either. The truth is that pretty much every seafaring civilization would have had to known that the Earth was round or else they would not have been able to properly navigate.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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As I said, it's due to a fictional account of Columbus' life. The work of 19th century historian Andrew Dickson White didn't help either. The truth is that pretty much every seafaring civilization would have had to known that the Earth was round or else they would not have been able to properly navigate.


Meaning you can't believe everything someone tells you to, my point exactly.



posted on Oct, 15 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by busterbunni

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by busterbunni
 


As I said, it's due to a fictional account of Columbus' life. The work of 19th century historian Andrew Dickson White didn't help either. The truth is that pretty much every seafaring civilization would have had to known that the Earth was round or else they would not have been able to properly navigate.


Meaning you can't believe everything someone tells you to, my point exactly.


So, how do you pick out the parts you believe?
What do you consider a trustworthy source and why?



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