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Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by wildtimes
Personally I think these people are wasting their time, and Edith is starting to look like an eccentric busy-body. As far as I can tell, she's not an established or long-term friend of the family. Is she? Does anyone know? I think she just started her efforts independently. But I could be wrong about that.
I've no idea - I'm just posting what I find. If you get any information on her would you let me (us) know?
But it’s the hand-painted letters covering her car that announce Edith Fine-Duskin’s mission: “Bring Baby Lisa Home.”
“I will find that child,” the 44-year-old Kansas City woman asserts. “When I start something, I don’t stop.”
Fine-Duskin’s nervous energy is apparent in how she moves and talks, often unable to complete one rapid-fire sentence before launching into another one.
Missing child cases in particular draw her to action. Pamela Butler, Kara Kopetsky, Kelsey Smith and Erica Green are among the young victims whose cases she has embraced.
Today that energy is focused on Lisa Irwin. Virtually every day since the 10-month-old’s parents reported Lisa missing from her Northland home two months ago, Fine-Duskin has handed out fliers, scoured woods with other volunteers and organized regular prayer vigils in front of the family’s home.
“Lisa deserves justice,” Fine-Duskin said.
It was another case where justice was not done that helps explain her motivation to seek it today.
The victim was 11 years old. Her name was Windy Fine. She was Fine-Duskin’s daughter.
“I want to keep going because I know my daughter would want me to,” she says.
When Windy was 8 years old, a decade before Lisa Irwin’s case exploded into the headlines and became a rich topic for network television talking heads, Windy was touched by the sad story of another little Kansas City girl who became known as Precious Doe.
Windy asked her mother what they could do to help, and together they became immersed in the case of the unknown child, decapitated and dumped in a wooded area near Swope Park.
They took part in the gruesome search for the girl’s missing head. Later, after someone found it, they became involved in the group dedicated to learning who Precious Doe was and who would do something so horrible.
“We wanted to know who that poor baby was,” Fine-Duskin said.
Fine-Duskin and the rest of the world eventually got answers: Erica Green, killed by her mother’s live-in boyfriend. He and Erica’s mother now reside in prison.
But the revelation came too late for Windy.
On Oct. 11, 2003, while riding in a car with her mother and brother, she was killed by a hit-and-run driver who never has been caught.
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by skibaboo
Hello, new to ATS but not to the Baby Lisa case. I've been following it from the beginning. One thing that is still bugging me is the removal of the tape and tape dispenser, as documented on the search warrant.
We also know from the search warrant that they removed the blanket, clothing and glow worm, all to me sound plausible items which dna could have be found on. If that was the initial purpose (as we do not know the purpose of removal)
Thanks for chiming in and Welcome to ATS!
About that tape dispencer. It's been bugging me for a while. And it goes back to the garbage bag over the window.
WHEN was that garbage bag placed there? Was the tape dispenser used to apply the tape to keep the garbage bag up? Could it have been put up the very night Lisa went missing? - You know, fake the break in scene and garbage bag over the baby's window. Something there is adding up, I'm just no sure hat yet. More of a mind-set psychological thing than physical.
Also - WHY would LE feel the need to take a tape dispenser for evidence? Was it just laying around? Where did they 'find' it? What led them to believe the TD was important?
Thanks for asking - it's good to take some of the older physical facts and rehash them.
Welcome, again, to ATS.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by TXTriker
Yeah, I'm a bit confused about the windows. The one with the damage (intruder-like bent screen that LE tried to re-enact as point of entry) was in the front of the house, and Lisa's room was at the back of the house. I thought the one that wasn't properly closing was the bent screen one. But I don't know.
The phones and the windows are a real muddle in this whole thing.
George Anthony reached his breaking point with some of the people hanging around his house.
About the garbage bag, somewhere in the thread it was linked that Jeremy tried to close the window and it would not close properly. Perhaps they put the garbage bag over it to block the cold since the window wouldn't close properly.
But then just now I was thinking if so and two months later he's still believing her , he'd really have to be either the biggest idiot on earth or deb the most cunning of manipulators and liars. Which do you think it is ?
The fact that the parents of ‘a missing baby girl’ are telling people who are keeping media attention on the child to ‘go away,’ said Kelly, strikes many people as strange. Mark Klaas agreed.
“One of the collateral damages of this action of theirs is that law enforcement has closed down some of their investigation [and] reassigned detectives … which is the last thing that these parents should want,” he said. “They should be out there full force, advocating for their child, doing everything they can to encourage people to look for their child.”
If you're going to be listening to your lawyers instead of your heart you belong in a courtroom. You have to do absolutely everything you can to eliminate yourself from suspicion. You have to be your children's (missing child's) best advocate and we're not seeing that with these parents.
Today is the court date on the custody issue involving his older child, so maybe the fear of loss will prompt him to come clean IF he has anything to come clean about.
A hearing regarding a gag order in the custody battle over one of Lisa Irwin’s half-brothers has been delayed until Dec. 7. Read More