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Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by idmonster
You want me to believe that birds latate? Do they even have nipples, I don't think so. I'm thinking of Meet the Faukers. You have to be kidding me. As far as cats stealing, it doesn't shock me. Do they depend on it like we do?
We're not. Adult cows and sheep continue to drink milk into adulthood, its called "cross suckling". This is when an adult identifies a lactating mother and drinks the milk to the detriment of the calf/lamb.
But they're the same species, so how about cats stealing milk from the teat of nursing elephant seals. (as well as a plethora of birds)
And my question which you ignored, was, do you think this outweighs our industrialization of cows milk?
Read the article you muppet. Its not postulated or hypothetical. Its the bservations of the research scientist who were investigating the phenomena.
I never said that birds lactate, I said cat steal milk, as well as birds. (that is, birds also steal milk, and not from bottle tops, directly from the lactating nipple of the elephant seal)
If you'd even bothered to glance at the article you would not have made such a ridiculous statement.
Kudo's to Connector for finding the article about birds lactating.
Itsthetooth fails on all fronts.
In case you missed it, these events are hardly a comparison to our industrialization of cows milk. I wouldn't doubt if there are actually much weirder things that go on that we don't know about. The bottom line is birds don't depend on that supply of milk like we do with cows milk. They also don't go through the trouble we do just to get that milk. Bravo, that both are not natural, but that wasn't the question alone. I'm looking for something that depends on another s milk to the degree that we do, or close, with cows milk.
Read the article you muppet. Its not postulated or hypothetical. Its the bservations of the research scientist who were investigating the phenomena.
I never said that birds lactate, I said cat steal milk, as well as birds. (that is, birds also steal milk, and not from bottle tops, directly from the lactating nipple of the elephant seal)
If you'd even bothered to glance at the article you would not have made such a ridiculous statement.
Kudo's to Connector for finding the article about birds lactating.
Itsthetooth fails on all fronts.
See what I have been saying all along. Why is our diet such a big deal, why are we always venturing on getting sick from it. I know you tuned in here later Ricky, but I believe that we are not from earth, we have no target diet, and in fact we are scavengers. We eat everything and anything, and basically have no fool proof diet. I think if people opened there eyes for a few minutes they would see where this is going. We don't fit in here. We do everything we can to make our lives work here. Our scavenger diet came into play as we still to this day search for what we can call the right food to eat. The problem is that it's not here. We have no target food, so we eat everything we can to get by. Its our only choice. Assumptions are made that what we need to eat must be here, its just an issue of finding the right combination's. Only because people don't bother to realize that its even a chance we aren't from here.
Oh you're right about much weirder stuff happening with our foods. There are a lot of people who know about these things but I'm studying antidotes for their toxicity. Why complain about things and not find the antidotes. It takes a lot of research but most of them are known by the medical profession. Most aren't recognized by doctors because they don't know you're diet and the symptoms are similar of low level toxicity. Avoiding these things that are necessary for our ability to think correctly is sometimes unadvisable so I study antidotes. Every time I discover another antidote another product is put into circulation by the food industry or sometimes renamed or slightly changed in formula or GM the food. Sucks bigtime. Thank you FDA for giving me extra nonpaying work.
Aphid-herding ants make sure their "cattle" stay well-fed and safe. When the host plant is depleted of nutrients, the ants carry their aphids to a new food source. If predatory insects or parasites attempt to harm their wards, the ants will defend them aggressively. Some honey ants even go so far as to destroy the eggs of known aphid predators like lady beetles.
Oh I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why we drink milk. It has a lot of benefits. I just wonder at what point did we decide that breast milk was no longer an option. Or is it since our diet here is lacking that it has never been a good option for as long as we have been here.
I have determined I can live on eggs and potatoes with coffee. I wouldn't want to eat these things all the time but I could live on them. Science can verify this because I have researched it. I have problems with all milk, I do crave milk but have to watch how much I drink. Maybe it comes from my uncle working a milk truck and our family getting all the free milk and ice cream we could eat from the outdated stuff from the stores. I'll never know for sure but my children and grandchildren have an allergy also. Too much milk will cause problems. The calcium will cause the body not to take up other minerals if it is drank too often. This could cause tiredness problems. Milk also contains melatonin or chemistry that forms melatonin. This can give tiredness if it is consumed at high quantities. Milk is a good remidy for insomnia, warm milk with a toast at night can help you sleep. I can go on and on with good and bad associated with milk. Moderation is crutial otherwise you and you're offspring will have problems like me. I'm not sure if my ancestors had this allergy. My father drank it but told me that milk is for babies also and drink milk when you're hungry and not when you are thirsty. It's not clear what he was trying to say, I think of what he taught me about food. He gave me cures passed on for generations but didn't know exactly when to use them or why they worked. I asked him how to tell when you need them and he said you'll know. I know now, I made these things the first and most crutial parts of my research. I wanted to know what my dad knew and It's amazing. Does it matter really what my research means, couldn't I just follow what he was telling me? No, we are curious beings and it's deep inside us to find out why things tick. His knowledge was still real and my knowledge really is no better. My grandmother, other side, was crazy on herbs. I wish I would have paid more attention but the meds made her kranky and I tried to avoid her. Everything can be proven, but does it really need to be proven to be real?
Originally posted by Highergrounds
reply to post by colin42
So Can ''YOU'' O.P,? Prove evolution is correct?
Originally posted by itsthetooth
If evolution is real, when we evolve into another species, do we also grow a new food to feed us, or do we steal food from other species?
Well that's a bogus claim, it means we would ALL be eating the same food. I think your way off on this and don't even know it.
This has been answered already. When a new species emerges it generally maintains the same food source as the previous species. This leads to competition. If the food source is scarce then the one that is better adapted will survive while the other will die out. Occasionally the new species will have evolved in such a way that allows it to go after a new food source as well.
Originally posted by itsthetooth
I don't believe in evolutionism.
If evolution is real, when we evolve into another species, do we also grow a new food to feed us, or do we steal food from other species?