Occupy Wall St. Video of violent arrests today 9/20

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


that's not going to impress him. he probably thinks they are spoiled because they have beds and aren't laying on the dirt like the poor people in ethopia and somalia, which both need alot more help before cuba. i mean, wowzers. they got it rough. i don' t if many them have ever seen an aspirin much less a doctor. cuba is a bit more up to speed although it does like like their medical system could use some loving kindness.

reply to post by Swingline50022


I got news for you Swingline, the coverage of Tea parties was sporadic at best, and Fox gave us the only real positive spin. Here's the classic CNN coverage I remember

The reporter even claims it's not family viewing (in spite of all the kids in the background)



Especially please note the Tea Partiers points about the Federal reserve and Bush spending...

reply to post by Dragonface99


Um wow, you really believe that things would be better if only John Lennon had not been murdered and the baby boomers would have fulfilled their revolution? Well what do you think is happening to day with so many rising up to reclaim their lost socialist Utopia? What was their revolution about in the Viet Nam era? The belief then was that our parents were too "plastic" and most of it revolved around the anti-war activism. We know that hard core radicals were behind that too, and Kent State riots were the outcome of all that, viet nam vets were spit on when returning home, and America's spirit was broken. thanks Jane Fonda

reply to post by UniverSoul

do you think its right that you are privaliged because billions of others suffer and live in poverty

Wait a minute buddy, that's the spin of the socialists in this country who are dedicated to taking down America in flames. We are the biggest funders of the UN money tree you know, all the money that goes out to help so many other poverty stricken people all over the world. Americans open their pockets for earthquakes in Haiti and tsunamis in Indonesia. Even our military does it's best to help people in stricken areas, and who pays for all that buddy? We do.
All you are hearing about is Gitmo and military bases and wars in Iraq and you think somehow that Americans are responsible for all the pain and suffering in the world. You swallowed that bait hook line and sinker and it's just not true. It's just a demoralization tactic used by the likes of current occupier of the WH.
All you are hearing is how Americans use up all the resources of the planet( I bet you watched The Story Of Stuff over and over).and how we have the biggest co2 footprint and so on(we know that al gores theory was used as a scam so he could make millions off carbon trading and put a huge mansion home right smack dab on the ocean.
No, you are not going to pin all the world's massive suffering on the backs of Americans who work hard for their earnings. You are not going to blame us for droughts in Africa and genocide in Bosnia.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Dragonface99

 

john lennon's world was tiny. it only had room for atheists.
most of the people in the usa, don't resemble that ideal but the marxists have managed to raise a generation of
kids to agree by brainwashing them thru music, schools, movies and books, into believing that their parents are a bunch of idiots that believe in dumb things. same thing happened in the soviet union, china, etc. did them alot of good doncha think? in addition to being some of the worst human rights disasters in human history, if not the worst, they never did manage to improve the lives of anyone.

Yes, exactly, if one listens to the words of John Lennon's soing Imagine, he says "Imagine there's no countries".. well he may have really been an anarchist, I suspect, suggesting that there should be no borders. But who else wants a borderless world? That's right, the NWO Globalists. They plan to erase the borders between the US and Mexico and the US and Canada.
"And no religion too" well there's the atheist part, and I guess he didn't even go Zen cause that's a religion.

"Imagine no possessons", well well isn't that interesting. Karl Marx also wanted to abolish private property, all things belong to the collective.
"No need for greed and hunger" yah that sounds really altruistic doesn't it, till you realize that it's the socialist utopia everyone seems to want these days.
To me the only redeeming quality in that song is "brotherhood of man".

reply to post by UniverSoul

watching people live in poverty because of the economy that keeps us privileged.

Really, I'd like to know what your sources are for this allegation. Citation please.

reply to post by Swingline50022


Marxism is not a dead horse, when our own POTUS got elected with comments like "spread the wealth" and continues today with the whole soak... I mean Tax the wealthy stuff he's spouting all over the place. People are buying into this philosophy all the time, maybe they just don't know what it really is. Michelle also talks Marxism, with her pie analogy of giving up our pie so others can have more. How plain can it be?
Now admittedly, Anita Dunn is a Maoist.
Van Jones is a communist.
This is not by accident but by design.

Originally posted by Partisanity

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by Partisanity

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by UniverSoul

 

sounds all sunshine on the surface, but it doesn't work because there has to be a central this and a central that, and what we end up with is, communist socialism.

You mean like... a central bank?

Yep, that's sure what these protesters want.

You're obviously right on the money...

yep, like a central bank. we're already a socialized country.... BLAH BLAH BLAH

THESE PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING THE CENTRAL BANKS...

What don't you get?

I love how you say everyone is going Stalin-esque as you continue to fling thoughts into peoples heads.

edit on 21-9-2011 by Partisanity because: (no reason given)

What part of the Bolshevik revolution was anarchy don't you get? Communist anarchy is far far left. They use violent revolutions to get things done. Things like splatter the czar and czarina and their childrens heads against a wall in their own home. I've heard people saying that people in the stores "should" give all their stuff to the hungry for the sake of the revolution. It's a breakdown of society.
But the Bolsheviks were well before Stalin. In fact, the Gulags were built and run before Stalin came on the scene. You know the slave labor camps where people were forced to do stuff. You can read about the gulags in Solzhenitsyn's book "The Gulag Archipelago".

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus



I had to join, just to address your posts and the paranoid nature of you thought process.
Communist revolution failed, and in all my years I have never seen a communist march or
rally, not even one. Psychologically speaking, you seem to hide behind a virtue defense
mechanism built on the basic tool of standard propagandists of the right. The idea that
the communists were laying in wait to undermine society, via culture and politics was
a large portion of Nazi propaganda. You could almost strip the names, faces and places
and be in the early defense league for the Fatherland, which was stripped of its glory,
wealth and culture by the communists, gay, Jews and liberals. Standard Nazi prop
rehashed

If you dropped all of the dogma you cling too, you would probably be pretty lost, hence the reason
why you cling to ideas like a massive stash of hidden Commies in America, even though there is
no political activism, banners signs or members to be found. Kids with Che shirts does not constitute
the dramatic conspiracy you allude too.

reply to post by Partisanity


Look, let's just make it simple ok? Karl Marx is the "Father of Communism". It doesn't matter whether it anarcho-socialism, Leninism, Fabian Socialist, Stalinism, or whatever. This is a case where all roads lead to rome and they even say so on their own websites.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Partisanity

 

Look, let's just make it simple ok? Karl Marx is the "Father of Communism". It doesn't matter whether it anarcho-socialism, Leninism, Fabian Socialist, Stalinism, or whatever. This is a case where all roads lead to rome and they even say so on their own websites.

You have convinced your self, dispite that fact that there is very little evidence.
President Obama carrying on Presidents Bush' policies is not a commie takeover,
sorry.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by Swingline50022

 

i don't think we are even remotely capitalistic. we just aren't pure socialists yet. this is not a capitalistic country. the gov owns everything, even your house is owned by the gov. that's socialism. well i take that back, your house is owned by the IRS because the moment you stop paying taxes on it, they come take it away. but they are here on government authority and take your house by government authority so ends up the same. what difference does it make if they own it or approve it to be owned by someone, as long as it isn't you that owns it? i don't have anything. everything is owned by the gov. even my trash.

dunno why people keep saying this isn't a socialist country cause it sure the heck is.

We still have what they call a "mixed" economy. That is, we mix up all they keynesian stuff with all the socialist redistribution with various forms of Capitalism including the forms of monopoly(monopolistic competititon, Oligopoly), along with free market competition.
We do have many socialist programs in the US and increasingly so, which has greatly contributed to the demise of our economic status as a superpower. You are right that people are blaming all the problems on capitalism, because that's what the socialist leaders are saying.
Sure, there's problems with monopoly capitalism, but there is free market economy which is what conservatives really want to get back to. Keynesian economics is used a lot by our govt to stimulate the economy.

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Partisanity

 

Look, let's just make it simple ok? Karl Marx is the "Father of Communism". It doesn't matter whether it anarcho-socialism, Leninism, Fabian Socialist, Stalinism, or whatever. This is a case where all roads lead to rome and they even say so on their own websites.

You have convinced your self, dispite that fact that there is very little evidence.
President Obama carrying on Presidents Bush' policies is not a commie takeover,
sorry.

He is carrying out the NWO agenda. His sponsor is socialist George Soros and there is an agenda to bring this country into a European style socialism. I'm sorry but I am right.

But, see, here is where the Hegelian dialectic comes in. People on the left see him as being centrist (because he is catering to Wall Street boys) and people on the right see his socialist agenda(nationalizing of industries and the economic sector and slapping more bureaucratic regulations on idustry, and of course the centerpriece of it all, the healthcare plan.
You can call it whatever, the goal is a One World Totalitarian govt, and yes it involves socialist schemes mixed up with abuses of capitalism.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Partisanity

 

Look, let's just make it simple ok? Karl Marx is the "Father of Communism". It doesn't matter whether it anarcho-socialism, Leninism, Fabian Socialist, Stalinism, or whatever. This is a case where all roads lead to rome and they even say so on their own websites.

You have convinced your self, dispite that fact that there is very little evidence.
President Obama carrying on Presidents Bush' policies is not a commie takeover,
sorry.

He is carrying out the NWO agenda. His sponsor is socialist George Soros and there is an agenda to bring this country into a European style socialism. I'm sorry but I am right.

Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Clinton and W all carried out virtually the same policies of war,
colonization and corporatism.

What evidence do you have of this modern push for European Socialism?

The corporate windfall which will result because of Obama care?


The Nazi's used the Commie liberal fear they projected to obscure their roll and their
agenda... How do you know that you are not just a useful tool???

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


are you kidding me? what makes you think you know anything about the people there? I personally don't profile people and try not to be judgmental. but I will say, they are doing more than you and at least these people believe in something.

There is something to said for this group. We need more action and protest in america.. I don't care if its for the right or wrong reasons, the important thing is to show that we value our beliefs and what is right. isnt that what america (and the world) is supposed to be about?

the protesters in this video do nothing to help the cause.

"officer why are you taping" - so theres video evidence of the entire arrest
"i cant breathe, i cant breathe"- if your talking you can breathe, and he was screaming i highly doubt he needed an inhaler.

there were no violent arrests those people did something that made the police single them out, idk how this made the first page Ive seen better evidence from the guy claiming that someone he saw on tv was a reptillian. SMH SMH

Originally posted by mastahunta

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Partisanity

 

Look, let's just make it simple ok? Karl Marx is the "Father of Communism". It doesn't matter whether it anarcho-socialism, Leninism, Fabian Socialist, Stalinism, or whatever. This is a case where all roads lead to rome and they even say so on their own websites.

You have convinced your self, dispite that fact that there is very little evidence.
President Obama carrying on Presidents Bush' policies is not a commie takeover,
sorry.

Oh hahaha you really joined ATS just to give me a good dressing down on my "propagandist" posts? Well, I have been told by various ppl that communism no longer exists. I beg to differ. You can call it communism, globalism, socialism, demorcratic socialism, totalitarianism, fascism, or corporatism, I care not. The point of all my posts is that the NWO wants to institute a top down bottom up One World Govt. If you think it's not after the communist model, I would like you to explain how it is that some person on top gets to take my paycheck and dispense with it is he or she likes and I have to just suck it up because that person has convinced a whole lot of people that it's for the common good? What I fight is the concept that capitalism is bad or evil because of corporatism. It is usually socialists or yes hard core communists that say this.
Yes Anita Dunn is a Maoist communist and Van Jones Im not sure maybe a garden variety ex-con communist, take your pick they are there.
I'm flattered that I have induced you to join, and maybe ATS will thank me for it.

reply to post by mastahunta

The corporate windfall which will result because of Obama care?

Probably. Sarah Palin addressed that as "crony capitalism" which I do NOT espouse, regardless of your attempts to paint me as a goofball paranoid. I would not exactly call it a windfall as much as healthcare providers taking advantage of government paying for stuff, thus losing a grip on the free market price of a product. That, my friend, is the effect of govt takeovers. It obviously will not lower costs, as the admin says it will. Also, it will have the effect of forcing out private and free market options, and leave many businesses to dropping coverage due to the govt providing. What's new? That is the introduction of socialist healthcare and rationing will follow.

Likely, rationing will follow under the guise of lowering costs, and they will parade it as the only means of cost cutting, never admitting that they themselves are to blame for the horrific monstrosity they created.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by UniverSoul

 

watching people live in poverty because of the economy that keeps us privileged.

Really, I'd like to know what your sources are for this allegation. Citation please.

the economy is the people.
when one persons nation controls more money because of the monopoly some of its rich 1% own.
another persons nation might not be that lucky, get stuck in debt with other nations or banks and end up with a lot of people in poverty.
because we live in the western nations we get a lot easier lives. we use many of the poorer nations and its wrong, try to play saviours for the world so we take more money and use an age old monopoly.
im not saying our nations are perfect but we get a hell of a lot better lives, and were still so damn selfish about it trying to keep asylum seekers and what not out.

i dont think i need citations, if you dont know this you dont understand how money works.