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reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 11:45 AM by newcovenant
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The lord will have his say on all of them come judgement day. They may save themselves for the moment, but they will never be truly saved.



I think this is true too. In a way we cannot understand and many may understand full well, there will be no escaping divine judgement. I try not to impose my own "sentence" on people for a few reasons. I don't want to be judged myself and I believe in karma, I cannot make decisions affecting others until I have walked in their shoes. If God has a job, this certainly must be it.


reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 11:50 AM by Jassu
Originally posted by freespirit1
Originally posted by Jassu
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post by blocula



I beg to differ. Think about the chaotic living conditions on a planet. We can get hit by asteroids, volcanoes, tidal waves, nuclear weapons and solar flares. The safest place would be underground and not exposed on the surface. It may not exactly be practical yet but you cant really argue the logic. Or can you?


Seriously? Yeah I can argue the logic.... would you REALLY want to be underground with a bunch of people that think they are smarter than everyone else?

What if they built the bunkers on an unknown fault line?
What if for some reason the fresh air supply was cut off?
What if you couldn't get any more fresh water and had run out?
I could go on and on.....

But I'll just shut up, keep preparing my own stock for my family and friends, and take the risk of "being exposed" like humans have been doing since the beginning of time




Why do you automatically think that anyone living underground with you would think they are smarter? It is also doubtful that they would build on a fault line. You can always use ventilation from the surface and if (for some crazy reason) the air wasnt breathable then its natural to have filters in place as well as sustainable energy. I also dont think we would run out of water because if we can build underground bases then we can also locate aquifers. If you can go on then please do. I am always open to a debate. I am happy that you will continue to stock food but as you stated "What if you couldn't get any more fresh water and had run out?".



reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 11:56 AM by freespirit1
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I'm just saying, you have a much better chance on the surface, in my opinion. Air and water are important, and if you can't find it in one area, you will be able to in another.


reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 12:17 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by Jassu
reply to
post by blocula



Yay! Another doom and gloom 2012 thread! Why not look at the positives? I know everything seems to be building up to something (Financial collapse, Natural Disasters etc...) but why does it have to be negative? What about humanity being unified? What about potential consciousness expansion and enlightenment? There is always 2 sides to anything. If you decide to dwell on the negative and the doom then that is exactly what you will get. Yes the gov is building DUMB's (they have been since way before any of the 2012 stuff so its nothing new) and stock piling seeds. I dont see a problem with planning for a doomsday scenario but investing so much negative though and energy doesnt really do anything. I agree that human civilization is cyclic but we dont have the details of all these societal collapses. What if portions of the population ascended and others simply didnt make the cut?

What it comes down to is that we really dont know whats going to happen. Why not just enjoy what we have now and continue to put out positive energy and try to love each other. (ya that sounded totally hippie i know)


Or... Spread the word of a solution on a planetary level to the problems We see. I offer the abundance paradigm, having understood that money represents the accounting of meaningful energy expended in a world scarce of energy. Add what money represents - energy - and the need for money dissipates. It ends in a truly egalitarian society with few and quite reasonable rules and not prone to violence at all, striving for Betterment, and not just adding Our Human energy to enrich the few.

The End of Entropy - the foundation - read first

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Ethical Planetarian Party Platform - the structure

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Here's a simple schematic for drawing on the plenum ("dark"/Zero Point/"vacuum"/Radiant/Orgone/...) energy:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


The Abundance Paradigm:

media.abovetopsecret.com...


I am sure that We, now with global Interweb communications, robotics in even the public sector becoming amazingly good at doing things, and electrogravitics released from black ops - spread the word and call for this! - We can set up a Human society based on loving relationships, and equal choice. The pariahs of society will be Those who choose to behave poorly and will lose Their social tender, Their social currency.

Without money as motive and with abundance rather than scarcity, with no need to work but gaining social currency for the good work One does, Humanity will shine.
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reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 12:20 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by blocula



Certainly that is the plan of the satanic PTB.

Certainly that is what they expect to be able to do.

However, as King David said . . . wherever he could go--God would be there--whether the depths of the earth, the depths of the sea, wherever.

I'm utterly 100% convinced that God has HIS OWN SURPRISES in store for the evil doers. HE IS THE ONE who can move mountains, continents . . . with merely HIS WORD.

Their plush bunkers will be as easy to squash as cotton candy.

Besides . . . how wonderful could it be . . . locked in with a bunch of hedonistic, selfish, self-centered, spiteful, greedy, angry, arrogant, ruthless, theiving, genocidal bustards . . . each one grasping and clawing to be top dog . . . oh whee what bliss!


reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 12:37 PM by Amaterasu
Originally posted by BO XIAN
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post by blocula



I'm utterly 100% convinced that God has HIS OWN SURPRISES in store for the evil doers. HE IS THE ONE who can move mountains, continents . . . with merely HIS WORD.


Given that I believe that "God" is Consciousness, I do believe We can surprise Ourselves and move mountains. We choose to cocreate the Now, and given the Interweb, coordinated creation becomes all the easier. If We're motivated enough.


reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 01:37 PM by Ophiuchus 13
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1 tries freespirit1 something just comes over me
Be well
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reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 06:47 PM by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by blocula



Lol, dude i looked at the artifact you linked. Thats an ancient bong. You do know that the ancients liked to take hits from the bong? Cannibis helped relieve their pain in those days. You think that the modern world are the first people to figure out that marijauna eases pain?

What does a bong have anything to do with 2012? people wanting to get high one last time before the world explodes?

www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 16-9-2011 @ 07:33 PM by EnlightenMe2012
In my opinion I would say the deep underground bunkers are to protect tptb from bad ass solar flares or gamma rays or something along those lines involving the sun.



Didnt nasa even come out and say there would be solar flares next year?

The best place to be in that scenario is underground out of the heat and fire engulfing parts of the earth.

Tptb are not stupid and they have spent so much money on these bunkers that they are probably 100% impenetrable.
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