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Originally posted by waypastvne
I am still interested in which pile you think is the north south east and west wall.
Originally posted by steveknows
Originally posted by captainnotsoobvious
Time and time again I see the same BS from the Truther movement and time and time again, when they're presented irrefutable facts they stop posting on threads and disappear.
So, enough of that.
I'm calling you out.
Here's some BS you can no longer claim to be true:
!!!! condensed for repost !!
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Nothing you say is going to get these people to believe the truth. They need to believe that there is more to it than a terrorists attack. I don't know why but just looking at all the post on any thread on this site some people need more than there is. Perhaps it makes up for something lacking in their life.
lmao....but we should ignore things cause you did afterall see things with your own eyes...along with all the other truthers who have the courage to stand up and fight for whats right.....but sometimes it seems not worth it as we are fighting a tough cause only to get called things by the same people we fight for....but such is life....you choose to live in the shade of a mushroom...and i choose to head for the light.
but that is a choice i freely make without trying to call you names for what you believe
Originally posted by MentalGiant
Thank you for proving in your own post a demolition technique I have never seen before, now I believe more than ever, the buildings were demoed. I have a stronger argument, and more proof now, because of you. Thanks!!!!
I also want to point out many inconsistencies in your argument, but it is so silly, i am not going to waste my time. Your post is redundant, and your eyes and ears are closed.
Some great advise I was given once....."Never argue with an insane person...because from a distance, noone can tell who is crazy".....So, have a good day, redundant, eyes closed, crazy person.... Ive got productive thibgs to do, I cannot waste my day with someone who has spent 10 years ignoring the "elephant in the room".
Originally posted by WarminIndy
That was the very first lie. The first one proclaimed loudly by Jordanian and Syrian news papers. That is the one people here first believed. Since then, every theory has been based on that premise, and that premise alone.
You can say that you have not, but let me ask you this, if you believe there were no planes, then what about the theory your own "experts" have come up with about Israelis flying the planes? Well if there were no planes, then no Israelis flew them. But have your "experts" apologized for that misleading? No.
But since witnesses to the planes, the witnesses on the planes and the witnesses in the buildings themselves are disregarded in favor of "experts" who were not there, it leads to only one conclusion...people believed the original lie and built on it. If I made you uncomfortable, then maybe it is because there is something to what I am saying.
So disprove my statement of anti-Semitism at work. By saying you are not does not prove anything,
The "Truthers" have not shown one C.I.A. agent responsible, you have not shown one F.B.I. agent responsible
while disregarding the fact that the first person to tell you to accuse was an Anti-Semite on Jordanian television.
Originally posted by bigwig22
Originally posted by steveknows
reply to post by plube
I do have proof the planes brought the towers down. My own eyes. Also my own eyes tells me that the floors where the planes hit were burning for some time before the towers came down so again my common sense tells me that what you couldn't see from the outside was thie inside of the towers burning down through the floors.
And you don't own ATS we can say what we like and we're not being any more derogative than the truthers. Perhaps what might be offensive is the pure logic.
Hey man, did you see the movie transformers 3 with your own eyes?
I guess yes. Me too!
It must be all true!
Pure logic wont hurt you if you use it sometimes.
Originally posted by ANOK
The outer walls should not be on top of the rest of the collapsed building from a natural collapse, period.
The only way that can happen is implosion style demolition. In a natural collapse the walls would be pushed out by the buildings interior, and the rubble would fall on top of the walls outside of the footprint. The only way to get the walls to fall inwards, after the buildings interior has dropped, is by timed controlled explosives.
i didn't hear any creaking or i didn't hear any indication that it was going to come down, and all of a sudden the radios exploded and everybody started screaming, "Get away. Get away. Get away from it." and I was like a dear in the headlights. And I look up. It was that moment, you know, "Get away", and I looked up... and... it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. And all the things started peeling in on itself and... I mean, there was an umbrella of crap seven feet over my head that I just stared at. Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running and the [explitive]'s hitting the ground behind me and the whole time your hearing "thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom. thoom."
Originally posted by spoor
Originally posted by jamieastronaut
I know it's quite unbelievable for this guy to just blatantly admit that they "pulled" the building.
Except he said they pulled the fire crews out, NOT pulled the building.... since when has the FB been in the building demolishing business?
Originally posted by stonespiral
reply to post by spw184
Though, to be fair, a good flying reptillian bigfoot thread every once in awhile IS good for a laugh.
That being said,
I sympathize with the OP in regards to the occasional completely outlandish Truther post and how frustrating that can be come. I feel like a good step forward for the Truther movement would be to give serious scientific analysis to ALL possibilities and they'll likely come to a conclusion that falls somewhere in the middle ground of conspiracy and the original story. The whole thing seems to have fallen apart at some point in the last few years, it's hard to keep serious credibility when the vocal majority is flinging wild theories and acting like crazy people.
That's how the UFO community keeps from gaining serious credibility. It's unfortunate because a lot of the ideas and theories are interesting and deserve attention.