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We Have Misunderstood Light and Dimensions.

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posted on Sep, 10 2011 @ 10:28 AM
For the answer you have to go to Hell.

Dr. Stefan Hell of the Max Planck Society:

He just got a Science Award. Created a new microscope to see smaller than man has ever seen.

I wonder if he looked down at particles and saw tiny planets with people on them orbiting electrons.

Who would have thought.....Hell would find your answer.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 12:47 PM
You, my friend, are right on cue.

Originally posted by venatorX

Originally posted by The GUT

“I am the Light of the World. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.” John 8:12

You know what else is the light of the world and is the light of life? The SUN! :O

Light & Darkness are more than allegory I'm sure. There is War here--and in the cosmos--between the two. I wanna be a spiritual 'moth' and fly towards the light. May I be strengthened to do so.

I apologize for being so blunt, but this is an extremely confusing post.

1) More people are "coming" to a natural evolutionary blend of metaphysics and basic hard scientific reality via completely definable and non mysterious means. It's called mass communication and the most basic concepts of social and specific evolution at this time.

You're speaking my mind.

2) Light & darkness, as you contextually refer to them, are, in fact, polarized, visually determined appearances, based on dimensional centric sensory input perceptions. 100% of what we "see" externally, is actually processed information that is neurally compiled internally BEFORE we interpret that same information into composite structure as an externally perceived concept of our reality. Again, this is basic and non mysterious stuff.

Imo, you're saying the same thing I said in the OP here.

3) Sir, you BETTER hope to be MUCH more than a spiritual moth. As one of the most predominant descriptions within the Bible are of SATAN as an angel of LIGHT.

2 Corinthians 11:14 "And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light"

Please try this if you get a chance. Google the "serenity prayer" , combine that with the above bible verse, and leave them old mothballs alone. ;-)

I'll leave you with this: Ephisians 2:2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience"
What/who precisely do you believe is being referred to here as "prince of the power of the air"? Just what is it those UNIDENTIFIED objects do so much of anyhow?

Be careful with that LIGHT Eugene...

This is specifically what I wanted to adress in this reply of yours because something astonishing just occured to me.

Let's assume everything I have said is true.

These aliens come in light ships. Let's also assume this video is a genuine ufo sighting.

Notice how one side of the the ufos is dark, and the other is bright. Assume the sun is an eye of a higher dimensional entity, probably jesus. This sun entity is truly higher dimensional because its eye has light coming in in all directions, as if it was seeing 3 dimensions simultaneously whereas we only see 2.

Okay. You with me so far?

Now the ufos in that video only have light coming in in one direction. They are mimicing the sun, but they only have light coming in in one direction.

My guess is is that these ufos have found a way to technologically interact with higher dimensions. Isn't it weird how their ships are said to look like eyes? Like two saucers stacked on top of each other.

Anyway, I belive these are the ones masquerading as angels of light. Otherwise, their ships would have light coming in in all directions.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by smithjustinb

I agree with you that 4D is difficult to understand. Even after researching this concept, one can walk away scratching their head in confusion. It is hard to grasp an imperceivable world.

What makes the Earth any sort of brain? Is it because of the life here? What if Mars truly has life, or prehistoric fossilized life? What if the moon Europa has oceanic life? What about solar systems that have more than one world with life, or have no worlds with life? What makes earth any sort of brain, and not other planets or satellites?

If it has life, then it is a brain. If there are two planets with life in one system, then it is more of the same, or something that we don't know about 4d bodies.

If the sun is an eye, what about helium and hydrogen combustions, nuclear reactions, or subatomic particle collisions here on earth?

Nuclear fusion on the sun would be the beginning of the 4d information conversion to 3d.

If light equates to being the ultimate information source and eye to a higher perception, what about candles and light bulbs?

These are 3d chemical reactions that begin inside the 4d internal and have no place in any higher dimension. However, their are some minor effects to the 4d being in that it was an internal combustion of the 4d body. These effects are very insignificant on a small scale.

Do we agree that 4-D involves the concept of freedom from time-space? Isn't the sun confined to a specific space, being observed at a specific time?

The sun is as confined to a specific space as your brain is confined to a specific space. Confinement is only an internal perception. Internally to the 4d being, things are as regular as the movement of the planets. Externally to the 4d being, there is a whole other world of activity going on. Think of how a neuron would perceive its existence. I do not agree that 4d involves freedom from (time)-space. 4d is simply an added dimension of space.

However, light is of a higher vibration, and information is transmitted through light. The Sun is a vessel that contains the universal consciousness, just as we and all things do. The Sun's level of sentience and consciousness is for only the Sun to know and experience. The Sun is a living being connected to all of space-time at a frame of reference, just as we are, it's not an eyeball of a 4-D entity.

edit on 9/10/11 by Sahabi because: (no reason given)

Almost there young pottawan master. Seriously though, with what you said in this paragraph, you sound like you could almost believe what I'm saying except there is some minor consideration preventing you to.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:11 PM
reply to post by smithjustinb

Smithjustinb, please read my thread it has a lot to do with your theory you will love it. I also wrote a response in your other thread "Inside The Mind Of God".

Like your thread it is just an Idea but I base these claims on physics and my observations.

Here is the link to my thread please read it and leave a comment I respect your imagination and your thirst for the deepest truth and I would like to hear your opinion on this.

The Birth Of The Creator


posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:23 PM
According to one author 'Alex Christopher' in her book 'Pandora's Box' she says we are light vibrating at frequency. We vibrate at specific frequency and so is our world, this is the frequency that makes the matter and we are 'real' that is we are materalized. Those at higher frequences vibration are no longer materalized they are light, and so on. While this is very interesting theory I don't believe it, im not into it, thus I do not believe in dimensions and time travel.

And I disagree with your post, what do you mean by 'information' and we are made if it... Since I dont even acceot the upper explanation of dimensions for now I prefer to just think we are made of atoms, like every traditional scientist.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 02:49 PM

Originally posted by Imtor
According to one author 'Alex Christopher' in her book 'Pandora's Box' she says we are light vibrating at frequency. We vibrate at specific frequency and so is our world, this is the frequency that makes the matter and we are 'real' that is we are materalized. Those at higher frequences vibration are no longer materalized they are light, and so on. While this is very interesting theory I don't believe it, im not into it, thus I do not believe in dimensions and time travel.

And I disagree with your post, what do you mean by 'information' and we are made if it... Since I dont even acceot the upper explanation of dimensions for now I prefer to just think we are made of atoms, like every traditional scientist.

You don't have to believe in higher dimensions (although there is a working theory that supports it) to believe that light is information and that we are born of information.

Information is behind the organization of matter according to "laws of physics". There is information in DNA. Gravity is information that instructs a body to cling to a larger body. Everything is information in some form.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 03:02 PM
Gravity is a force... it's not 'information'. There is no 'the Earth is sending us information to stick to it'. I would disagree with it.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 03:25 PM
reply to post by Imtor

Light is the information for life. Ascending into higher and higher spatial dimensions, you eventually arrive at the one light source and that is God and will be us when we get there.
edit on 11-9-2011 by smithjustinb because: (no reason given)

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 04:54 PM
reply to post by smithjustinb

The Egg
By: Andy Weir

You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 08:44 PM
reply to post by Alien Abduct

I've read that before, but I read it again, because I remember how much I enjoyed it the first time.

Is this something he experienced or something he made up?

It also relates to my original post in how you can keep ascending in dimensions and be under a different light source each time, but eventually, your light source becomes THE light source. At that dimension, there is just you and God (assuming there is only one universe).
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 08:52 PM
Its actually intellect as well. Your spirit/soul is Light.

The event coming is not just extinction and evolution, but its Family returning and it will saturate everything indeed.
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posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 09:38 PM
reply to post by Unity_99

How is my spirit/soul light and what does that have to do with either or?

Now we have bible thumpers, i think we need to coin the phrase unity and love thumpers.

posted on Sep, 11 2011 @ 10:09 PM
reply to post by onequestion

We all are. We are not the matter the universe which is a creation, or reshaping/designing matter that also always existed, but our body suits are. We are the drivers and we stream in throught the mirrors, if you will, there is another word too for them to do with their actual structure, but stars. I've recalled beaming in all my life. Everything here is projected beamed in, from the True Beyond. Infnite Beyonds , where only negativity exists in this universe of opposition and choices, and below it in the channels.

You soul/spirit is infinite intelligence and that is Light.
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posted on Sep, 12 2011 @ 07:57 PM
reply to post by smithjustinb

spot on! been thru the tunnel(interdimensional portal, if you will), seen the light and its' def. God. I'm well educated in hard science/adv. mathematics. been in some of the lower dimensions too. they call it soul traveling. it is a much bigger universe then can be imagined. certainly God is much more then we can understand, now. good post!

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