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Originally posted by Sevensight
Cue the ATS pro-lifers to come in here praising the death penalty in
3...2...
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
I don't support the death penalty, but I would question the ''hypocrisy'' argument against it.
Is it hypocritical to imprison people who have been convicted of kidnap or false imprisonment ?
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
No, because they are not being falsely imprisoned.
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
No, because they are not being falsely imprisoned.
They are being imprisoned against their will as punishment for imprisoning someone else against their will.
That's no different to premeditatedly killing someone as punishment for premeditatedly killing someone else.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
But the key is to have a PUBLIC execution.
For petty crimes and armed robbery where no one was injured, PUBLIC BEATINGS.
Show them there are severe consequences to their actions and watch the crime rate plummet.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Show them there are severe consequences to their actions and watch the crime rate plummet.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
I guess I am of more cruel bent. I think that anyone given a life sentence with no possibility of parole should be given solitary confinement, with no windows or contact with the outside world. Other than the guard that feeds them and gives them a change of clothes and blankets. And the guards are forbidden to talk to the prisoners. No visits from anybody, no friends, family, clergy.
6x8 room, One crapper and sink and bed. No chair or desk, soundproofed, no radio or TV or reading material. A lumpy mattress and kept at 60 degrees at all times and one dim bulb for light that can be changed from the hall. If they need medical treatment, it is brought to the cell.
And that is how they would live. For the rest...of...their...life.
edit on 8-9-2011 by TDawgRex because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by chiefsmom
reply to post by gimme_some_truth
Ahh, gotcha.
I think if you kill someone, whom has murdered innocent people for no reason, in killing them, you are protecting other innocent people. If he were to get out of jail, or maybe even in jail, how many others might he/she kill that you could have prevented?
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Originally posted by mongomuggins
Could someone provide a list of developed countries that still have the death penalty. I can only think of one.
Well I don't know what you might consider to be developed ( I may consider it something else), so here is a link with a list of all countries that have the death penalty.
www.infoplease.com...
That should help you find your answer.
Death penalty permitted - Afghanistan Antigua and Barbuda Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Belarus Belize Botswana Burundi Cameroon Chad China (People's Republic) Comoros Congo (Democratic Republic) Cuba Dominica Egypt Equatorial Guinea Eritrea Ethiopia Gabon Ghana Guatemala Guinea Guyana India Indonesia Iran Iraq Jamaica Japan Jordan Korea, North Korea, South Kuwait Laos Lebanon Lesotho Libya Malawi Malaysia Mongolia Nigeria Oman Pakistan Palestinian Authority Qatar St. Kitts and Nevis St. Lucia St. Vincent and the Grenadines Saudi Arabia Sierra Leone Singapore Somalia Sudan Swaziland Syria Taiwan Tajikistan Tanzania Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Uganda United Arab Emirates United States Vietnam Yemen Zambia Zimbabwe Read more: The Death Penalty Worldwide — Infoplease.com www.infoplease.com...
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Your argument spoke of false imprisonment,not jailing people against their will...
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
One is locked up for breaking the law, the other is not..... Sooo...
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
No, if they are in jail for false imprisonment,then they have committed a crime and there fore there is no hypocrisy. If they were say... falsely imprisoned for something else, that they did not do...that would be both Ironic and hypocritical.
Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
Killing some one because they killed some one is hypocritical.
Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes
The crime of false imprisonment is confining someone against their will - exactly the same punishment which is handed out for someone who is convicted of this crime.
If they are executed because they committed murder, then they have committed a crime and therefore there is no hypocrisy.
There are many good arguments against the death penalty, but I don't think you're going down the right avenue with this one.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
That doesnt work.
If it did given how many speeding idiots wrap themselves around trees and telephone poles in plain sight of every passerby out you'd think people would stop speeding like idiots.
Law and punishment or this simple minded system of vengeance based pseudo-justice has no affect on crime or criminals and only makes criminals out of those who would commit non-crimes created through innumerable layers of legislation and bureaucracy.
But, hey, if it makes you feel better to spread misery by all means go for it.
Originally posted by Quadrivium
Take a gangsta out in the hood, lash him down and commence to beating him with a leather strap, in front of his thug friends. They will think about the consequences BEFORE their next run in with the authorities.
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Originally posted by drivers1492
I support the death penalty. My view is looked down upon by many because I personally don't think the huge cost is warranted in the ways we carry them out. A bullet to the back of the head would be quick and cheap. Sure that seems a bit barbaric but I just don't see the problem.
There will always be crimes and instances that people will have issue with this particular punishment but the ones who commit said crimes are aware of their actions and the possible outcomes. So with that in mind why should society provide them with the housing, meals, and laundry service for the rest of their lives?
547000-If your concern is that they have time to find god, I seriously think from the time that they commit the crime to execution is more than plenty to work it out. If not, well, they had their chance.