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Originally posted by Akasirus
[Sidebar: Ron Paul hasn't practiced medicine for almost 40 years, nor is he running for a position related to medicine, so why do people keep referring to him as Dr. Paul? It is a faux pas to refer to people by defunct titles, especially when they are succeeded by later titles of more prominance (Congressman). It is entirely unrelated to his political career and just comes across as petty.]
Originally posted by Akasirus
I didn't say it wasn't threatening. It may or may not be. I said it wasn't physically reprimanding because we have no way to know the context of the gesture. The picture with Huntsman also could have happened before or after the 'altercation'. You are assuming he was 'seperating' them, but again, we don't know the context. Maybe he came to join the conversation. Maybe they called him over to dark his opinion. It is fine to draw your own conclusions, but it's not fine to assume that the conclusions you have jumped to is the only correct one and that no one could possibly draw a different conclusion.
What am I supposed to research? What can I possibly research that could tell me what is happening I'm those photos?
Originally posted by eLPresidente
reply to post by Akasirus
Putting his hands lightly? what are you trying to diffuse a massive situation here?
It is unpresidential to act the way Perry did, his body language and glaring eyes shows what he meant, the man in the forefront of the first picture was identified as John Baeza, Ron's bodyguard, why did you think he had to show up during a mere commercial break?
Yes, it is wrong to get ahead and say assault but Perry did get physical, especially if Paul did NOT want to be touched or had a condescending finger in his face.
Would you want that? I sure wouldn't.
The difference here is an emotional and (several times over) out-of-control man and one that is calm and collected in situations regarding the public light. That is what is should be discussed here.
Originally posted by mudbeed
Yeah make abortion illegal and pretty soon birth control will be illegal.
Anti-Abortion Groups Push To Outlaw Contraceptives By Redefining Personhood
A fringe anti-abortion group, Personhood USA, has been startlingly successful at pushing forward legislation across the country that would redefine life as beginning at the moment of fertilization, effectively outlawing contraceptives like birth control pills. Although the medical community has long been in agreement that fertilization does not mark the beginning of a pregnancy — fertilized eggs must first be implanted, and only about half of fertilized eggs actually result in a pregnancy — a growing number of lawmakers are supporting Personhood USA’s efforts to buck medical expertise and legally define life as the moment a sperm meets an egg.
If they succeed in passing such a law — and if such a law survives judicial scrutiny — it could turn common forms of birth control into the legal equivalent of a homicide.
Originally posted by Akasirus
No one has issued a statement about what went on, all we have to go by is a couple of still frames. Everyone is reading a lot into these very ambiguous photos, and taking way too many liberties to arrive at their conclusion. Many people are even going as far to put imaginary thoughts and feelings in Ron's head. Really? How can anyone know what Ron or Perry was thinking from a couple of stills?
Originally posted by Wookiep
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
If this got out, I think this would show the public who Perry really is, and it would destroy his political career.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by mudbeed
I agree with you. I am not for making it illegal, and neither is Ron Paul. I am personally against it 90% of the time, but I DO NOT think it should be some over-arching Federal law.
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
This is a little off topic, but as I was looking for what they might have been talking about, I came across a page on the debate and it said this
- Perry won applause from the audience for saying he never struggled with whether any of the inmates executed during his time as governor might have been innocent. As of Wednesday, 234 people have been executed in the 10-plus years that Perry has served as governor of Texas, the highest number of any U.S. governor. The very mention of that statistic drew applause.
How could anyone seriously not consider and struggle with that a bit? Also who applauds execution statistics?
Here is the link, it mentions Perry and Paul at the bottom, but no more information.
Originally posted by Tgautier13
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Physicians across America -- and around the world -- are now confirming that the Pill, IUDs, Depo-Provera and Norplant cause early abortions.
First, a look at the Pill. Research shows that in many cases the Pill causes early abortions -- abortions the mother may not even know she's having. You may find this shocking, but the facts are clear after reading Randy Alcorn's book, titled
"From medical textbooks and pharmacy references, to statements from the Pill-manufacturers themselves, this book proves, beyond any doubt, the abortion-causing action of birth control pills. This book should be read by everyone interested in knowing the truth."
"Does the birth control pill cause abortions? Using research results from medical literature, Randy Alcorn has convincingly shown that the answer is `yes.' He has, with care and compassion, given us the truth. The question for us as Christians is how we will respond now that we know."
Total world production of MDI and polymeric MDI is over 2 million tonnes per year (Mt/a). Major producers include BASF, Bayer, BorsodChem, Dow, Huntsman, Mitsui, Nippon Polyurethane Industry and Yantai Wanhua. All major producers of MDI are members of the International Isocyanate Institute, whose aim is the promotion of the safe handling of MDI and TDI in the workplace, community and environment.
In addition to his public service, Huntsman served as an executive for the Huntsman Corporation, the Huntsman Cancer Foundation, and CEO of Huntsman Family Holdings Company.
President Barack Obama nominated Jon Huntsman to serve as the United States Ambassador to China on May 16, 2009, noting his experience in the region and proficiency in Mandarin Chinese.
Huntsman expects its sales for differentiated chemicals to grow by more than US$1 billion in China and throughout Southeast Asia over the next two years. But throughout the Company’s rise to prominence in the global chemical industry it has kept firmly in place the core values on which Jon Huntsman founded the company. Its Asia Pacific operations are no different.
Originally posted by Mcupobob
reply to post by getreadyalready
I really like Ron Paul I will vote for him, but I think he could have done better in the debates. Its not 100% his fault he was blackballed but I think he made the mistake of trying get all of his opinions out at once during that one bit. However his closing statement was really his defining moment. After they tried pulling that hunger children crap they were trying to pin on him.