posted on Sep, 4 2011 @ 11:52 PM
reply to post by hotbread
I'm not so sure that Roundup (Glyphosate) is responsible for declining Bee populations (something that greatly concerns me, as a hobbyist
bee-keeper), rather the fact that Glyphosate is highly compatible with insecticides such as Lorsban (Chlorpyrifos) and synthetic pyrethroids. They can
all be chucked into the spray tank together quite safely with no antagonistic results, making one pass sprays easier. This saves money on the farmers
behalf by cutting fuel and labour costs.
Usually surfactants are used in the mix as well. These help with the dispersion of the product across the surface of the leaves as well as assist in
sticking the product there. Surfactants are kind of like a pure form of detergent. Frogs die quite quickly when it enters their waterways from blocked
pores. Their skin can no longer breathe. Bees may be susceptible to effects from surfactants as well.
As a result farmers tend to "chuck a bit of insecticide in" with their Roundup mix to cover all angles. Add to that fungicides such as Dithane and
it’s quite a concoction blasting out in a fine mist right there.
These insecticides are dangerous. I believe them to be far more cumulative, residual and toxic than they are made out to be.
Roundup has always been marketed as “safe”. It’s "just" a salt (I do not believe it to be safe, by the way). I recall back in High School
watching a documentary about Dieldrin & DDT. There are many cases of people DRINKING DDT to prove how safe it apparently is. The problem is that these
products are cumulative. They are slow to leave the body (or never leave), and build up to a level where one day - Mr. DDT drinker pops his clogs.
I often wonder about what we will discover in years’ time about so called safe chemicals available and in use now. Whoopsy - We didn't think it
would do that...
I think about what I may have floating around my system after years of work in the broad acre & viticultural / horticultural chemical industry. Even
with all of the precautions I took.
I do know I felt much healthier a year or so after I left that field of work.
Oh – I read figures somewhere (getting back to the Bee issue), that for every 3 bites of food we take, Bees were responsible for 1-2 of those. Be it
from direct pollination of plants we eat through to pollinating the pastures that feed the livestock we eat. We need to really remember their
importance, for without them, many plants cannot reproduce.