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yet we are free to forget the Native American genocide
look, growing up, all i learned, from like 1st grade on, was how the sacred six million died. no one told me about the 30 million russinas, no one told me about the 25 million chinese, and millions of gypsies, italians, irish, etc. all you hear about is the precious chozen.
it is the "Holy Grail" of Zionism and method of enslaving
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Wow. No offense is intended here, but I'm rather shocked by the general discussion on this topic. Are the records for the Holocaust 100% accurate? Of course not. Mass Graves were scattered here and there all over the place, particularly on the Russian front of the war. I doubt those situations ever came close to an accounting.
However, what happened in the camps isn't guess work or propaganda. The Germans were absolutely meticulous and fanatic about record keeping. I believe it's the first war in our history where the losers actually supplied almost ALL of the evidence used to hold them accountable afterward.
Those brought to trial at Nuremberg never outright disputed the scope and general facts of what happened, just their roles or lack of accountability. It's hard to argue the written pages from German Officers not only counting kills, but the net values for each body.
THEIR records and UNDISPUTED by THEIR OWN Officers during trials for their very lives. If ever there was a time to spill some big truth, that was it, as some knew very well they'd never breathe free air again either way.
It's ironic that we know from records on the Allied side, our 'High Command' discussed this very problem. How to document a horror at such an unthinkable level, future generations wouldn't believe it even happened. They actually realized it at the time. As I understand from reading over the years, that was the reason videos of the camps weren't just home movies but official Allied records and approached in a careful way to document it.
Sure the Jews have played it for all they could in the decades since and yes, millions of Non-Jews were systematically exterminated in the camps as well. I don't like that those facts are almost forgotten but how Jews and Israel have chosen to exploit what happened during the war doesn't change the events themselves. Even Germany as a nation, to this day, admits to what happened and doesn't dispute the fundamental facts.....unlike some others I could name (Japan...ahem...cough...).
One final thing on this... What difference does it REALLY make if it was 2 million, 6 million or more? Mao counted 10's of millions and so did Stalin. After it hits the million mark for a number, it's kinda meaningless isn't it? The Horror is already at the maximum level and all that comes after is statistics for the historical record. How can anyone grade the level of BAD beyond that point? Oh well....
I suppose my thoughts on this make me no friends but someone had to stand up on this and represent the other side of the topic. I'll hop in my hole now and take cover.
Originally posted by gwydionblack
I think all history should be questioned and studied regardless of how 'taboo' it is in certain cultures - Holocaust included.
But this is a subject that will NEVER, ever be considered or questioned quite simply because as someone pointed out - the winners write the history.
Originally posted by m1991
there was a Zionist, likely both with Christian and Jewish elements, plan to support the Holocaust in order to fulfill Biblical prophecy. Without the Holocaust there is no way Israel would have ever had enough Jewish settlers to become a new Israel.