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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by relocator


So it's the paganism and secrects that's got everyone's panties in a wad.



not all paganism. They tend to look the other way when the Christmas tree is rolled out, or the Easter bunny hopps around. No need to deprive the kids their candy and presents just to hid the pagan influences.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Sauron
 

And "tell all" books are usually what the author wants to tell you or wants you to read.

reply to post by GrassyKnoll
 

Only 14 US Presidents have been Masons with the last being Gerald Ford.

Reagan was given an honorary membership in the Shriners and Scottish Rite. Neither of these bodies can confer the first 3 degrees. His honorary membership doesn't give him the ability to sit in meetings or have a vote.

Neither of the Bush Presidents are or were Masons. They are members of the Skull & Bones which is not a Masonic organization.

Clinton is not a Mason. He was a member of the DeMolay but that does not mean he was a Mason. He never received the first 3 degrees.

Obama is not a Mason. Neither F&AM, AF&AM, or PHA. Unless you can tell me what Lodge in what Grand Lodges jurisdiction. Or the date in which he received the degrees.

Other than posting some names and further degrading the discussion with your name calling.


Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
And I can prove that the last FIVE presidents are all freemasons. Photographs of them giving Masonic handshakes or flashing Illuminati-Masonic hand signals.

Well actually you can't as those you named above are not Masons. Pictures of a handshakes that for the most part are not Masonic no matter how their hand is placed.


Masonry is an entry level secret society.


ILLUMINATI >>> FREEMASONRY



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll

Originally posted by Sauron

But please, post the name and number of his Lodge, and the date when he became a Master Mason.
That will be all the proof you need, and I will be able to say I learned something new today.


Wow are all Masons as stupid as you are???

As if the Masons will provide me with lists of their members?!?
The famous ones, sure. Others are entitled to their privacy like any other private citizen.

Washington, initiated on November 4, 1752, in the Lodge at Fredericksburg Virginia and raised in 1753.
Monroe, initiated in Williamsburg Lodge No. 6 at Williamsburg Virginia.
Jackson, Harmony Lodge No. 1, at Nashville TN. Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Tennessee, October 1822 thru October 1824. Honorary member of Federal Lodge No. 1, at Washington D.C.
Polk, Initiated, passed and raised in 1820 in Columbia Lodge No. 21, Columbia TN.
Buchanan, Initiated on December 11, 1816 in Lancaster Lodge No. 43, at Lancaster PA., passed and raised in 1817. Junior Warden in 1821 and 1822, then Worshipful Master in 1825. Became a life member in 1858; He was also Deputy Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania.
Johnson, Andrew Johnson was initiated, passed, and raised in 1851 at Greenville Lodge No. 19, at Greenville TN. A Knight Templar, he was also the first President who took up the degrees of the Scottish Rite in which he received the 32 degree in June 1867.
Garfield, initiated on November 19, 1864 in Columbus Lodge No. 246 at Garrettsville OH., passed the same year, and raised in 1865.
McKinley, Initiated in Hiram Lodge No. 21, at Winchester VA. on May 1, passed on May 2, and raised on May 5 1865.
T. Roosevelt, initiated on January 2 1901, passed on March 27 and raised on April 24 of the same year in Matinecock Lodge No. 806, at Oyster Bay, NY.
Taft, made a Mason ‘at sight’ on June 18, 1909 by Grand Master Charles S. Hoskinson. He was affiliated with Kilwinning Lodge No. 356, on April 14, at Cincinnati, OH., then made an honorary member of Crescent Lodge No. 25, at Cedar Rapids, IA.
Harding, initiated on June 18, passed on August 13 and raised on August 23, 1920. He became an honorary member of Albert Pike Lodge No. 36, at Washington D.C. in 1921. He was also a member of both the York and Scottish Rites. He was a 33rd degree Scottish Rite Mason and the first President who ever became a Shriner.
FDR, initiated on October 11, passed on November 14, and raised on November 28, 1911 in Holland Lodge No. 8, New York City, NY.
Truman, initiated on February 9, and raised on March 18, 1909 in Belton Lodge No. 450, at Belton Missouri.
LBJ got the first degree on October 30, 1937 in Johnson City Lodge No. 561, at Johnson City, TX but never went on to become a Master Mason.
Ford, initiated on September 30, 1949, in Malta Lodge, at Grand Rapids MI. He was raised on May 18, 1951, in Columbia Lodge No. 3, at Washington D.C., by proxy of Malta Lodge.


See, we're actually proud of our members who've accomplished something. Why would we freely promote some US Presidents who were Masons but then turn around and hide others? It makes no sense.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
Masons are notorious LIARS and EVILDOERS.

Sickening!
Namecalling is likely to get you banned…



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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edit on Wed Sep 28 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: The issue of "Freedom of Speech" on ATS



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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edit on 28-9-2011 by GrassyKnoll because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
Masons are notorious LIARS and EVILDOERS.

Sickening!
Namecalling is likely to get you banned…


Now now ladies, lets not get petty!


There are some who believe the term 'hoodwink(ed)' stems from the masonic initiation ceremony where by a hood is placed over the head.

The definition of 'hoodwink' is to trick or deceive.
A lie is simply a deliberate attempt to deceive.

So, if someone was to be of the above belief, then it is understandable that they would label masons as being liars.

Just saying.


Keep it friendly people.

st.
edit on 28-9-2011 by SatoriTheory because: can't type for toffee



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
Masons are notorious LIARS and EVILDOERS.

Sickening!
Namecalling is likely to get you banned…


The TRUTH is the TRUTH

And I would consider it an HONOUR to be banned defending FREE SPEECH


we get it that you believe that all masons are evil. But people on this board are just that, people. Don't call people stupid just like you would not call someone stupid to their face. You have to communicate like an adult if you want to be taken seriously like an adult. Free speech doesn't include insults.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Funny you say this....I was just checking out this website last nite....Source

South Park and Satanic Gnosticism: Part 1



Randy explains the ancient secret society of hares.
Randy decides that its time to initiate Stan into the secret society and takes him to a secret location, a lodge, just like a freemason lodge where they even have a member handshake at the entrance. The members go through a ritual initiation inside just like those in freemason lodges to initiate a freemason to a higher degree(freemason initiation). They then bring out a rabbit and worship him with chants that sound like ones you’d hear in a Roman Catholic Church.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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ah yes, the hair club for men. That was a good one.
I am glad Matt and Trey covered all the angles on that one.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll

edit on 28-9-2011 by GrassyKnoll because: (no reason given)

not to tear down your belief system, but in masonry, we teach exactness and perfection when building something. In fact, it is claimed that King Soloman's temple was built so perfect that it looked as if it was created by divine intervention and not human hands. So knowing that, how do you account for your lines not following the lines in the pyramid pointing to the letters? It almost looks like someone just fudged it a bit to suit their purpose. The "m" and the "N" should be a "U" and an "O". But I can see how since that doesn't really spell anything it's boring and most probably wrong.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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reply to post by network dude
 


Yeah sterotypes based on reality.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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reply to post by GrassyKnoll
 

Thank God that was not a Masonic handshake.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by GrassyKnoll
post removed by staff


Stupid as in not knowing what the past grip of Master Mason might be (even though it has been published publically for 300 years) or how a church or a cathedral are layed out? That kind of stupid? Then the answer is, no.
edit on Wed Sep 28 2011 by DontTreadOnMe because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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nothing is more entertaining than a nonmason / antimason trying to tell masons what is masonic and what is not!



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:49 PM
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Masons are such dupes to the NWO-Illuminati...so gullible.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:55 PM
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Nope the seal of Solomon is correct each angle must be 60 *

Do you have the audacity to deny masonic symbolism on the $1 bill?!?!



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by fordrew
nothing is more entertaining than a nonmason / antimason trying to tell masons what is masonic and what is not!


My goal is not to educate nor argue with masons such an endeavor is a waste of my time.

My goal is to remove freemasons from positions of power by exposing them...let the public decide.



posted on Sep, 28 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by 7Over22
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A New Age...Not a New World Order.


A New Order Of The Ages NOT "A New Age"



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