Busted!! fake news on libya- movie sets, fake videos and pics, death threats to journalists

reply to post by PsykoOps


you stop throwing claims against others.You haven't even provided evidence as standards demanded.

You first. I'm still waiting

reply to post by USAisdevil


Here you go - all the evidence you need that the OP is the hoax

Back on page 9, so no surprise you missed it!

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


USAisdevil had pointed a fallacy in that post , check the posts on the thread. OP has not been debunked but rather more and more questions are arising about the MSM lies and bias coverage and outright lying.

reply to post by azulejo


I heard one of the new officials speak 2 days ago. They intend to pay NATO every penny back - they thank France and the UK for assistance but say that will not automatically mean lucrative contracts will be made available for these countries.

It was interesting to note that Libya owns a major share of mercedes benz - they hope to open car production plants etc. and to put the legal framework in place to ensure that Libyans get the benefit of new jobs created there. A framework that didn't exist under Gaddafi.

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by USAisdevil

 

Here you go - all the evidence you need that the OP is the hoax

Back on page 9, so no surprise you missed it!

Nice try with that but it isnt a Hoax cripmeister has been a strong suppoter of the rebels since this started, he didnt post anything to back up his little claims, so nope nice try but this hasnt been debunked.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


If posting a bunch of photos showing the areas & why the OP is wrong sint' evidence then you cant' really claim the OP showing a bunch of photos as proof of a hoax is evidence either.

And his beliefs are irrelevant - it is the evidence that counts - and his slam dunks the OP.

You clearly don't want to beleive it - as your comment on his beliefs states you're not actually interested in evidence at all - if it doesn't come from someone alreayd "on your side" of whatever then you've jsut got a closed mind.

So thanks for your comment - I take it as corroboration that he's right - because all you can do is whine about what side he is on and condemn him for providing exactly the same sort of evidence as the OP did.

Originally posted by ludwigvonmises003
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

USAisdevil had pointed a fallacy in that post , check the posts on the thread. OP has not been debunked but rather more and more questions are arising about the MSM lies and bias coverage and outright lying.

I looked at his posts - they are non-sensical - he asks for spectrographic analysis for example.....but doesn't demand it of the OP.

He simply asks for more evidence than can be gotten from photos, and then cries triumph when, surprise, it can't be provided to meet his unrealistic requirements.

But he doesnt' ask for hte same from the OP.

So Yes, it has been debunked, and asking for impossible proof does not constitute pointing out "a fallacy" - it just shows the unwillingness of some people to accept rational evidence that contradicts their a priori beliefs.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Aloysius the Gaul did you know that the mainstream news has always used psyop? with the such of paid people cheering in the video, just for an exmaple remember occupy wall street the stocks rally or protest? why did it failed? its because they were just some high school teens in reailty who just wanted to protest the stocks and have a little yoga thats why they you could say failed to gather 50,000 people the only way you can gather 50,000 is by cash offers, and even threats which what the rebels were doing in libya.


What we are seeing on the news isnt reailty but a psyop a Psychological warfare on the mind.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

So Yes, it has been debunked, and asking for impossible proof does not constitute pointing out "a fallacy" - it just shows the unwillingness of some people to accept rational evidence that contradicts their a priori beliefs.

Sorry but it hasnt debunked you just want to debunked because you and cripmaster both support the rebels sadly debunking like that doesnt wotk i agree with ludwigvonmises003

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


You said it guy! Libya doesn't even exist! It's all a sound stage in Arizona run by the CIA! Do you know anyone who has ever been to this 'Libya'? Hmmm...

Ghaddaffi is a HERO who helped his people to live a wonderful life! His tribe has the highest stanbdard of living in all of Africa! And now the zionist white devil not-sees want to take his land away and make it a socialistic state?

Originally posted by ARealandTrueAmerican
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

 

You said it guy! Libya doesn't even exist! It's all a sound stage in Arizona run by the CIA! Do you know anyone who has ever been to this 'Libya'? Hmmm...

huh no thats not i meant libya is real, however the way of the cheering stagted celebrations in these videos are shown they of course arent the reality. In truth its all a huge Psychological Operation.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


Insults? I didn't insult you. I am thinking maybe you are the crazy?

Anyways, Libya is NOT a country. Look it up. ALL Libyans love their dear leader. Look it up.

Originally posted by cripmeister

Below is a screen shot I made from the Al Jazeera footage you should have provided but didn't. At 2:27 we see a close up shot of the left arch and the decorations at the top are clearly visible.

Below is another screen shot I took from the same video at 2:33. The shot is zoomed out revealing the small middle arch. Notice how the decorations appear to have vanished. In reality they haven't of course, we simply can't see them because of video compression.

Here is the Al Jazeera video I took the screen shots from.

edit on 26-8-2011 by cripmeister because: removed blank space

How convenient wint you are here to mislead and misdirect us from this TRUTH you are so obviously scared abouts.

Care to prove that truth or are you just typing random words? Don't be scared.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
huh no thats not i meant

libya is real, however the way of the cheering stagted celebrations in these videos are shown they of course arent the reality. In truth its all a huge Psychological Operation.

edit on 20-9-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)

Can you prove any of that or are you too just making stuff up? I'd like to see even a tiniest evidence that these guys were paid actors as you claim. Just a little dripled would make me curious. Do you have any evidence to show what is the reality that you say isn't shown?

reply to post by PsykoOps


Another rebel suppoter eh? since PsykoOps you do support them the way i see it.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

One more thing Aloysius to claim that the thread is a Hoax which isnt, and to claim that cripmeister debunked it is just nonsense, because all he did was defended the actions by al jazeera and there footages.

reply to post by PsykoOps

I'd like to see even a tiniest evidence that these guys were paid actors as you claim. Just a little dripled would make me curious. Do you have any evidence to show what is the reality that you say isn't shown?

And can you gave me evidence that these guys arent paid actors as you claim aswell? when in war, the western mainstream news networks are always on the side of the western forces, in this case, NATO, Rebels, so far the footages i have seen from either CNN,al jazeera I have seen rebels shooting into thin, air, and some of other footages by CNN like in that one where the CNN Crew supposed gets attacked by gaddafi forces, yet in the video.

I didnt see the rebel solider in front of the CNN Crew reacted to the supposed gunfire at all, the supposed gunfire sound started when the CNN started to run into there vehicle and thats when the supposed gunfire started to be heard in the video clip, the video, almost looked like a scene from a TV Series.

Do you have any evidence to show what is the reality that you say isn't shown?

Celebrations taking places while the supposed city is a ghost town, and like that footage where al jazeera cliamed thousands of women took place in the celebrations in libya tripoli.


You cant always trust the mainstream for such footages heres an exmaple.

source

"only can be seen on CNN"

Those Rebel Fighters Cheering on the news video clips are paid to cheer when your working with the western mainstream they will use any means to turn people to the western side.

Just like how the western mainstream news did this in Croatia,Bosnia making the civlans to wave the american,french NATO Flags at the end of the war in Bosnia.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul



you nor others have debunked the fallacies the OP has pointed,with exception of cripmeister explained some not all.As for USAisdevil he has raised valid points which have not been explained effectively. His demands for analysis is time consuming,expensive and unrealistic ,but as you are a defender of the MSM ,he has the right to demand it as the MSM js promoting illegal wars on nations and you are swallowing MSM propaganda without even questioning the events.

The more the lies of MSM will be exposed ,the greater will be the scrutiny against the propaganda of govt/oligarch controlled media nexus.

Launching personal attacks and ad hominems will not benefit anyways and will expose your agenda.

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


I didn't ask for your opinions. I asked for evidence. You made the claim. You provide the evidence to back it up.