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"GOP: No tax hikes -- except for the poor"

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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Ignorance is bliss among those that believe they have the answer in a certain political party.

All TAXES tax the poor,

that is unless you are self supporting and do not by goods and services from others.

Lower taxes all around has been proved to increase revenue to the government as everybody spends more.

Higher taxes upon the rich only makes them spend less, and charge the poor more to pay for the higher tax.

So if you do not mind a 3% increase in your goods and services then hey tax the rich more.




posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:30 AM
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Many Democrats also are ambivalent about Obama's proposed tax cut extension. They are more focused on protecting social programs from deep spending cuts. Some worry that a multiyear reduction in the tax designated for Social Security could undermine that program's health and stature.

www.google.com...

From the original AP story. Just keeping it fair and balanced folks.




posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by Gorman91
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At least NBC adds some truth in their propaganda..


Its "truth" if you agree with it. Fox tells some truth too. The best lies have an element of truth to them.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:43 AM
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The article's author has zero understanding of politics and real life

A few republicans do not represent the entire party
And i'm not even defending the party, i'm just saying

He is hurting his own argument with generalizations



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:51 AM
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I started to read your post, but I couldn't get past the first sentence. The Tea Party has nothing to do with the Republican party. Your logic is flawed and you have done nothing but repeated the demagoguery of the left and attempted to pass it off as an original idea.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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The Tea Party has been co-opted by the Republican party, and the GOP has been infiltrated by the more electable members of the Tea Party movement. There is a Congressional Tea Party caucus, although whether it really reflects your Tea Party or not is up for debate. The Tea Party caucus in Congress is making a big mess for everyone, Dem and Rep alike.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by TruePatriot1685
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Maybe it could have worked pre globalization. But now you're absolutely right. The rich call taxes on them class warfare. So taxing the poor should be labeled as something nicer.... Paying their fair share? Or maybe redistribution of wealth? Ahh taxing the poor is socialism! I won't stand for it! Haha I'm sorry. I'm immature


hahaha the good sarcasm you have there !!! nice

yeah, class warfare !! do not touch my $$$$$ or I use my big gun, says the rich one !!

but go and steal the $$ of the poor people, they will not revolt for the moment, they are too poor and uneducated to understand the game we the rich are playing !!!
but the rich one in his Bentley or Maserati or Ferrari uses the roads, uses the infrastructures, the airports, the schools and universitys, the police etc etc but does not want to pay for government action ...
just greed, greed !!
like one other guy said : they just will buy a bigger yacht or mansion or golden Bentley .....
they do not care at all about their own society, their own people, but they say they do, yes, they say ....



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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I think they bend it. Blatant lies are caught by checks and balances, like Jon Stewart.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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hello, one thing that i just cant understand is the mentality that the people who dont pay taxes are the problem.Some would say they need to get a job and pay in like everyone else,but outa 350 million people+/-,we only have about 200 million jobs,so even if everyone wanted to work they dont have jobs to work at.
Also,the folks that are not rich but pay taxes are getting stiffed,for instance i make 100 dollors a week i pay 30% of that to taxes,so i have 70 dollors to live on for a week,might as well be poor.Now say i make 1 million dollors and pay 60% taxes on it,double what i payed befor,i have 400,000 dollors, to live on which is pretty nice.my point is that paying taxes and not haveing the money left to survive is not in anyway the same as paying taxes as the rich and still haveing enough to support whatever endevor they want.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by inforeal
 


I started to read your post, but I couldn't get past the first sentence. The Tea Party has nothing to do with the Republican party. Your logic is flawed and you have done nothing but repeated the demagoguery of the left and attempted to pass it off as an original idea.


what ? teapot party has nothing to do with R(i)P ???
come on, you must be joking no ?? or is it sarcasm ????
what a big lol here !!!
education education, that's what you need up there !!



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:05 AM
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Starred, the Media really ought to act as a check on the power of all three branches of government and it is shameful when they are in bed with politicians, judges, lawyers, et cetera. The big commentating personalities (even O'Reilly, whom I dislike and disagree with but find much more independent than Beck the shill) are important elements of a democratic society.

The media is the fourth estate!



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:07 AM
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The mainstream Tea Party... the one you hear about on CNN and MSNBC, has been co-opted by the Republican Party. There are millions of Tea Party members nation wide that wouldn't give two cents for an establishment republican.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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lol, I actually find Beck truthful moreover than, say, Limbaugh. The few times I'v seen Rachel Maddow she lies like I can't believe it, and O'Rielly I don't really see as neutral when he doesn't know that tides are caused by the moon. Hell Fox News proved their incompetence when they thought global warming causes volcanoes.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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So, let me get this straight.

I pay 25% of my income into taxes. I pay another 11% toward health insurance for my family. I put another 15% into my retirement fund. That leaves me with 49% of my income to go toward savings and checking to pay bills. I took my FIRST family vacation in 8 years last July.

So, you're telling me that I need to pay MORE in taxes? Isn't my 25% enough? Tell me, what did the crack whore, or white trash hooker do to deserve taking MORE of my money? Why should I have to pay for them to do drugs, crank out kids like rabbits, and sit around and smoke cigarettes? That 25% should be reduced to maybe, MAYBE 10% at the MOST! I'm sick of paying for people who want to sit on their asses and blame someone else for their woes.

I recently got an $11,000 bonus. The first bonus in 6 years at my company. The "gubment" took 35% of it! Now, tell me, what scumbag on welfare worked 7 days a week for 2-1/2 years to earn MY money? I know I worked that. What scumbag welfare leach missed their son's 16h birthday, their son's promotion to black belt? I did. Yet, these people think they deserve money I worked for? And they want more? Bull#.

I'm a non-degreed engineer. I joined the Navy out of high school, got an education there, and worked my way up from an electronics technician. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING was given to me. I earned everything. Now that I'm making six figures, you people think I make too much? You people think I should give my money to a crack whore? No thanks!

How much is "too much"? What income level is "okay" with you thieves? Put a figure out there. Let us know how much money an individual should be allowed to earn before you think it's "too much". $20k? $30k? $100k? What's your number? And, what's the incentive at that point to do anything but sit on our asses and get fat? Is that the Utopia you're shooting for? This is why I'm saving as much as I can, so I can get "off grid" eventually and be done with psychos like you, who want to steal other people's money that they work hard for.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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The average American who benefits from those payroll cuts doesn't have enough money to BUY AND PAY POLITICIANS, so of course they don't like that tax hike. Especially if that lost money can't be given to the people paying them...BIG BUSINESS!

They are ALL bought and no longer working for the people of this country. I'm amazed at how long it'll take until people realize politicians are nothing but bought sock puppets of corporate America.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:14 AM
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So, you're telling me that I need to pay MORE in taxes? Isn't my 25% enough?


No, it's not enough!! Not if you want to keep on making sure giant corporations like Exxon pay no or almost no taxes while continuously shipping jobs off-shore. And how could you ever be against that, right? The GOP isn't, that's clear. When the Dems tried to close that loophole last year, using some of those revenue increases to pay for injuries of 911 first responders, guess who blocked it...yup, the GOP pretty much said "f*** heroes, show me the moneyyyyyyy"


I hope you realize the effective tax rate of most giant corporations is less than half of what you're paying. Why? Because the government still has to spend money, and if they don't get it from those corporations anymore (ever since Reagan started increasing the power of corporations), they need to look elsewhere...preferably taking it from someone who's too weak and poor to pay them off...you know, average Joe

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posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
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The mainstream Tea Party... the one you hear about on CNN and MSNBC, has been co-opted by the Republican Party. There are millions of Tea Party members nation wide that wouldn't give two cents for an establishment republican.


Why do they keep voting for and supporting Republican candidates?
I find that strange.



posted on Aug, 23 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Sorry you got sucked into the leftist propaganda, inforeal. Salon.com is the Fox News of the left. At least the original AP article told us what's really at stake, albeit buried far into the article enough that leftist reactionaries wouldn't read past "ZOMG GOP TO TAX THE POOR!!111".

But Salon.com, as usual, left out the truth of the whole thing, which is that the cuts to SS that Obama put into place last year means that we get 2% less (over one year, if we get any at all) Social Security when we turn 62 down the road.


As part of a bipartisan spending deal last December, Congress approved Obama's request to reduce the workers' share to 4.2 percent for one year; employers' rate did not change. Obama wants Congress to extend the reduction for an additional year. If not, the rate will return to 6.2 percent on Jan. 1.


Obama bargained our future for temporary cuts that mean nothing. Thank goodness we have some rationality in Congress to return that 2% so that when we turn into grandma and grandpa we won't starving and eating out of a trash bin.

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