US asks China to explain why it wants carrier

reply to post by ateuprto


Well it's nice to see a non-skewed post once in a while. You know, the type free of deluded nationalism and ignorance..

It's the truth [snip]. Following WWII was the USSR, which was a force the rest of the world feared. We maintained our military strength out of survival and due to the request of ALL OF WESTERN EUROPE. Read some history before trying to make me look dumb, because I assure you it has the opposite intended effect.

Excuse me, The United Kingdom did not ever request the protection of the United States during the Cold war against the USSR. If you "had read history" you would understand that the British V-force was the most imminent and forward deployed threat to the Soviet Union. In fact you wouldn't have even been able to develop nukes in time had it not been for our Tube Alloys project, but that's another thing people like you forget isn't it. That most inventions you pass off as your own really came from us.

Sorta simple when you think it through. America does not want to fight an enemy that can fight back. EAsy to invade & occupy a third world country, rape it of it's resources, install a "new regime" one that's workable to OUR goals, build base's and just stay. All in the name of "Democracy"! America is giving "Democracy" a bad name.

We are not the worlds police, we have zero right to tell any country what they can & can't do. China can do as they damn well please, and they know this. China owns us, call in a couple of those trillion dollar notes they hold and we are toast.

Understand people, this aint your daddy's China any more. Their economy smacks ours in the dirt. Whether you think it or not China is a world Super Power. Let's just hope they don't learn about that pourous southern border of ours. Remember a few months back that mysterious missle shot off in the pacific, headed toward Hawaii? That was from a Chinese sub, That was a shot acoss our bow, it said, we are here, you can't stop us......

reply to post by VikingHavokk


PPL PPL CALM DOWN MY GOD....Was a JOKE A MOVIE HEAD OF STATE...LOL WOW

US is such a joke as usuall

I just want to say war machines suck, and having separate nations is a load of feudal crock that only perpetuates the idea that we are different and must therefore kill each other.

From my point of view the American military is trying to paint China with fear factor paint so they can continue to spend, spend, spend. I don't buy it for one second, American intel has a bad habit of exaggerating threats.

reply to post by DarylHamblett


Dear sir, If not for the US, you all would be driving VW beetles and eating bratwurst. Which is way better than the food you Brits eat. The Germans should have bombed your ass's with cookbooks......

Its pretty simple. Chinese ACC then can threaten US from the air!!!!!

reply to post by openyourmind1262


But we ARE the world police. Haven't you watch a U.S. Navy commercial lately on the idiot box? At the end of the commercial it says, "U.S. Navy, a global force for good." Hopefully we can all cut through the BS and just create one global nation and bypass silly territorial disputes and resource wars.

I think alot of people here are giving China more credit than they are due.

Much of inland China is still riddled with third-world poverty. Public dissent is always a danger to them. Their people are furious over things like internet suppression and serious housing issues.

If we ever went to war with China, you can count on a huge public divide on how and why they should enter a war with anyone. China also suffers from demented leadership and sociopathic-levels of lying and propaganda.

Pfft...amerika wants to know why China wants aircraft carriers.

Why does amerika have aircraft carriers?

I cant believe how one sided governments are.

reply to post by Dystopiaphiliac


My friend, I chucked my idiot box out the window about 4 years ago, sorry have not seen that commercial. As I see it TV is the "dumb us down" tool of a lifetime.

reply to post by openyourmind1262


The United States of America is a Republic....not....a democracy.

Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss
I think alot of people here are giving China more credit than they are due.

Much of inland China is still riddled with third-world poverty. Public dissent is always a danger to them. Their people are furious over things like internet suppression and serious housing issues.

If we ever went to war with China, you can count on a huge public divide on how and why they should enter a war with anyone. China also suffers from demented leadership and sociopathic-levels of lying and propaganda.

I 'cannot' find anything wrong with what you said.

Many people don't realize that China is a communist country, which exercises strong social restrictions on human rights, reproduction, and free speech. Even though a good chunk of the population will protest, the future Cold War between the United States and China 'is' going to happen. Regardless about who you vote into office, China is moving aggressively to build up their military and resources.

Coming to think about it - I think we may already be in a 'slight' Cold War with China.

When China is ready to attack, they will be the provoker of war.

China will fire the first shot.

Originally posted by AlreadyGone
Well, my first reaction is...Why is it the US business if China has a carrier?

Second reaction, if you HAVE to ask what a country, that has increased its military spending by 12-18% over the last decade, is going to do with a carriier?......

You might want to read a few history books and get some new and more intelligent people in your advisory pool.

China wants to attack Taiwan.
When i saw that Chinese aircraft carrier i had to laugh.
The SSN-21 Seawolf would eat that carrier for breakfast.

reply to post by ateuprto


Fantastic response! I think the media are to blame when it comes to the whole China/Russia vs US/West rubbish. In terms of military might, nobodby comes close to America, absolutely no one. China is growing, or at least it was, at a huge rate, but it an overinflated bubble and that bubble could well burst any time soon. China has invested heavily in the West as of late, but don't think that the West hasn't invested heavily in China. Neither truly wants the other to collapse, too many billionaires and millionaires all over these lands and none of them want open war. America, regardless of what the current state of the economy is, the current state of the everyday man on the street is, are still the military heavyweights and still have investments and military might that span the globe fifty times over! When America says sit down, China and Russia sit down, they moan, but they sit down. Anyone ever noticed when a vote comes up for anything in the UN, China and Russia could veto, instead they moan and choose not to vote. There isn't one country that can stand up to America, only the big mouth little ones find that out the hard way think they can, all the others already know thiey can't, they moan, but none dare step in the way.
China will give some excuse, they will give reason for wanting a carrier along the lines of defence, they certainly won't ignore America and America will know it's BS but make some deals along the way, deals that we will never get to know about and that's how it works. Moan, look like you're not controlled, but when the big boy says show me your wallet, you show it.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


That submarine wouldn't get anywhere near that carrier. The carrier might be a old Shell, but that's about the only thing that will be old. And it wont be roaming the seas alone.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jay-morris
People like you crack me up. Where is your evidence that chinese hate americans.

The Chinese don't hate the Americans. They view them as geo-politcal rivals.

Originally posted by Jay-morris
My evidence is my wife is chinese, so half my family are chinese. I lived and travelled china, met loads of people (even americans living in Beijing) who are loving their life in China. Like me, they had no problems at all with the chinese people.

Why, as an individual, would you have problems with Chinese people?

This is a group versus group perspective, on a national level.

You are confusing the fact that the Chinese are lovely people on a personal level with where their loyalties lie on a national level.

The Chinese can, on a personal level, be the nicest people in the world (until it comes to money) but on national level, they are as patroitic as anyone.

So you know all the chinese people and how they are feeling? you have been to China yourself to get the views of the chinese people on the street?

Group perspective, and this is why we are still such a primitive race. We are not the bloody borg you know! Each human being has their own personalities and views. The day we get rid of this primitive way of thinking, is the day we can progress for the better.

reply to post by justwokeup


How you no they old? And how you know they not got your emo