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US asks China to explain why it wants carrier

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:37 AM
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Seriously doubt it, China would shut down the United States within a few minutes by wiping out servers.

Besides - if the US & NATO are having difficulty with Libya, not to mention Afghanistan or Iraq, or Yemen... the United States would be well out of its league going up against China - electronically, financially, politically and socially.




posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris
You are so wrong. The Chinese love america. They love there culture,movies, clothes etc. I know this because i live in China for two years, and my wife is Chinese. What you wrote is a load of rubbish.


Seriously, you are claiming that China loves the USA?

While Chinese people like Western culture in terms of movies and clothes, they tend to be less than keen on the countries themselves, viewing them with a historical grudge and assessing them as rivals (enemies?), not friends.

Did you wife go to Uni?

Ask her what she was taught in her politics/history classes.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by doctorvannostren


Originally posted by ollncasino


in terms of chinese engineering? well most of the world's most significant engineering breakthroughs are from or based on chinese engineering.


Like what? Fireworks? the crossbow? How can one make such a total disaster of a statement? From everything Ive ever read and seen (just double-checked) they base almost all of their westernized components of their society completely on proven American design. (you know like the rest of the non-westen world thats transitioning) From their dams and interstate system to their clothes. In fact their military, in terms of current size and future spending, is dwarfed by America's. As well as their economy. Yes folks the US is worth around 6 times more than china. Technically, you could say they are catching up. But were already so far above them its not even close. Do your own research gents before you post. I know Im not falling in line with the rest of the china lovers sooooo...

Haters, do your thing. I would love to keep reading a bunch of opinions all day.

We asked them why theyve acquired their "new" carrier because we want to know.




What am I still doing on this site.
edit on 12-8-2011 by doctorvannostren because: final thought


You are forgeting, it was the Chinese that invented alot of the stuff we use today including

Row Planting

Compass

printing

Gunpowder

Embroidery

Silk

Paper

Postal system

Steel

To name but a few. All the things we use everyday



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Jay-morris
You are so wrong. The Chinese love america. They love there culture,movies, clothes etc. I know this because i live in China for two years, and my wife is Chinese. What you wrote is a load of rubbish.


Seriously, you are claiming that China loves the USA?

While Chinese people like Western culture in terms of movies and clothes, they tend to be less than keen on the countries themselves, viewing them with a historical grudge and assessing them as rivals (enemies?), not friends.

Did you wife go to Uni?

Ask her what she was taught in her politics/history classes.


Rubbish! If they are going to hold a grudge, then it would be to the British, and having lived there for two years, i have not seen this at all. Oh, and there are many westerners living in China



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:47 AM
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Did you wife go to Uni?

Ask her what she was taught in her politics/history classes.


My wife is sitting next to me reading this, and she is laughing too lol



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:52 AM
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We can ask anything...We have the right because we are the US of A. WE are BIG MOMMA. Im getting tired of people talking bad about America...IF you dont like it take ur ass to CHINA OR RUSSIA OR AFRICA OR SOUTH AMERICA OR CANADA And the list goes on.....GET THE hell out of USA. IF IT WASNT FOR USA THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD WOULD BE NAZI>RUSSIAN so shut the # up about america...JUST keep the comments to urself..............GOOD DAY!!!!!!


GOD bless AMERICA and NOBODY ELSE



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris

Originally posted by doctorvannostren


Originally posted by ollncasino


in terms of chinese engineering? well most of the world's most significant engineering breakthroughs are from or based on chinese engineering.


Like what? Fireworks? the crossbow? How can one make such a total disaster of a statement? From everything Ive ever read and seen (just double-checked) they base almost all of their westernized components of their society completely on proven American design. (you know like the rest of the non-westen world thats transitioning) From their dams and interstate system to their clothes. In fact their military, in terms of current size and future spending, is dwarfed by America's. As well as their economy. Yes folks the US is worth around 6 times more than china. Technically, you could say they are catching up. But were already so far above them its not even close. Do your own research gents before you post. I know Im not falling in line with the rest of the china lovers sooooo...

Haters, do your thing. I would love to keep reading a bunch of opinions all day.

We asked them why theyve acquired their "new" carrier because we want to know.




What am I still doing on this site.
edit on 12-8-2011 by doctorvannostren because: final thought


You are forgeting, it was the Chinese that invented alot of the stuff we use today including

Row Planting

Compass

printing

Gunpowder

Embroidery

Silk

Paper

Postal system

Steel

To name but a few. All the things we use everyday



I KNEW you were going to go there. Did they invent these things and then completely introduce them to the rest of the world? Or were they just versions of things that we already had or would soon develop on our own?
edit on 12-8-2011 by doctorvannostren because: ETA



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by VikingHavokk
We can ask anything...We have the right because we are the US of A. WE are BIG MOMMA. Im getting tired of people talking bad about America...IF you dont like it take ur ass to CHINA OR RUSSIA OR AFRICA OR SOUTH AMERICA OR CANADA And the list goes on.....GET THE hell out of USA. IF IT WASNT FOR USA THE WHOLE FREAKING WORLD WOULD BE NAZI>RUSSIAN so shut the # up about america...JUST keep the comments to urself..............GOOD DAY!!!!!!


GOD bless AMERICA and NOBODY ELSE


See this is the kind of blind patrioism that makes this work such a bad place to live. Im sorry, but it was not just America that won ww2. It was a joint effort from many countries, so you are talking complete rubbish. No one hates America, people hate your government, i don't like my government either, but too many people look at their leaders like they are mini gods



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:57 AM
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Thats the most ignorant post Ive ever seen on here and that say a lot.

A perfect example of a brain washed sheep.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 06:59 AM
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Its not even a big carrier. It sinks as quickly as ANY ship.

China is not one big happy circle jerk of people that love their country.....just saying.

China is in for some growing pains where it's middle class vs. dictatorship is concerned. Look at the history of any developed/developing country and see how much the citizens of that country try to escape the bonds of its government that is grapsing to stay in control.

Ever see the row upon row up on empty city of empty housing the Chinese are building? No one is moving in.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by Flyer
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Thats the most ignorant post Ive ever seen on here and that say a lot.

A perfect example of a brain washed sheep.


I find it quite scary that so many people are brainwashed like this, that they really believe that God is looking down on their country. Its so sad!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:06 AM
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I KNEW you were going to go there. Did they invent these things and then completely introduce them to the rest of the world? Or were they just versions of things that we already had or would soon develop on our own?


Sigh!


Do some of your own research and find out yourself. Saying "versions of things that we already had or would soon develop on our own" is quite a weak statement, clearly coming from someone who doesn't have a clue.

On every invention, if it was not invented by a certain person, chances are, someone else would have invented it, thats just logical.

If the wright brothers didn't take flight, somone esle would have come along and and done it instead : /



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris


Did you wife go to Uni?

Ask her what she was taught in her politics/history classes.


My wife is sitting next to me reading this, and she is laughing too lol



Seriously man?

You expect people to believe that China loves the USA?

No wonder your wife is laughing.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by USXpat
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Seriously doubt it, China would shut down the United States within a few minutes by wiping out servers.


Another gem.

I wish this werent the case because it makes my daily life at work a living hell, but every device on the US's SIPR military networks are so well protected you would need to physically destroy them to cause any harm whatsoever. You really have no clue what a challenge it would be for any country to attempt. This is coming from a member of the branch who only receives 6% of the DoDs budget. I can only imagine what the army has.

Why is everyone so quick to just throw out opinions? Do you think anyone truly cares more about what you think than actual facts that contribute to the discussion?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris
Rubbish! If they are going to hold a grudge, then it would be to the British, and having lived there for two years, i have not seen this at all.


What do you expect to see? Lynching mobs in the street?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris
reply to post by doctorvannostren
 






I KNEW you were going to go there. Did they invent these things and then completely introduce them to the rest of the world? Or were they just versions of things that we already had or would soon develop on our own?


Sigh!


Do some of your own research and find out yourself. Saying "versions of things that we already had or would soon develop on our own" is quite a weak statement, clearly coming from someone who doesn't have a clue.

On every invention, if it was not invented by a certain person, chances are, someone else would have invented it, thats just logical.

If the wright brothers didn't take flight, somone esle would have come along and and done it instead : /



Thanks again for the opinions folks

signing off



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:22 AM
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Seriously man?

You expect people to believe that China loves the USA?

No wonder your wife is laughing.


No, she is laughing at people like you who don't have a clue and spend their time writting fear mongering posts. People like you crack me up. Where is your evidence that chinese hate americans. My evidence is my wife is chinese, so half my family are chinese. I lived and travelled china, met loads of people (even americans living in Beijing) who are loving their life in China. Like me, they had no problems at all with the chinese people.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:23 AM
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they think they rule the world
should we ask them why they need carriers

edit on 12-8-2011 by philware because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Jay-morris
People like you crack me up. Where is your evidence that chinese hate americans.


The Chinese don't hate the Americans. They view them as geo-politcal rivals.


Originally posted by Jay-morris
My evidence is my wife is chinese, so half my family are chinese. I lived and travelled china, met loads of people (even americans living in Beijing) who are loving their life in China. Like me, they had no problems at all with the chinese people.


Why, as an individual, would you have problems with Chinese people?

This is a group versus group perspective, on a national level.

You are confusing the fact that the Chinese are lovely people on a personal level with where their loyalties lie on a national level.

The Chinese can, on a personal level, be the nicest people in the world (until it comes to money) but on national level, they are as patroitic as anyone.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
And why is it ok for America to have such a vast fleet of aircraft carriers unquestioned yet they can question China for building one, which is a soviet era converted carrier. Who ever gave America the right to ask such questions.

Don't take the question on face value. Its another question entirely.

China is not being prohibited from building an aircraft carrier.

Link: China’s Hawks Demand Cold War on the US

We should retaliate with an eye for an eye and sell arms to Iran, North Korea, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela,” declared Liu Menxiong, a member of the Chinese people’s political consultative conference.

He added: “We have nothing to be afraid of. The North Koreans have stood up to America and has anything happened to them? No. Iran stands up to America and does disaster befall it? No.”

Get the question now?

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