Famine in East Africa: Why Does Nobody Care?, page 5


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reply posted on 31-7-2011 @ 09:27 PM by AnonymousFem
reply to post by Adyta



I actually don't care sounds racist to me, as much as your other comment does, the rude one also. Just shows the vulgarity in your nature.....


reply posted on 31-7-2011 @ 09:38 PM by Adyta
reply to post by AnonymousFem



I'm not trying to be rude, and I don't mean to sound rude with my next sentence, but....

Sense. Please start making some.



reply posted on 31-7-2011 @ 11:07 PM by bluemirage5
reply to post by Wirral Bagpuss



Good for you for donating to UNICEF. Did you request a thorough look at their expenditures for the past 5 financial years and ow much of it really goes to the Africans? Only 10c in the dollar ever makes it there!


reply posted on 31-7-2011 @ 11:35 PM by Frankenchrist
Originally posted by Kram09
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post by sonofliberty1776



Ah...you're American.

Now it makes sense.

The country where more people have Facebook profiles than passports.


Yeah, Its beacause we dont want to visit other countries that are crappier than our own.
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reply posted on 31-7-2011 @ 11:43 PM by Egyptia
reply to post by Wirral Bagpuss



I have always been curious as to what organization is the most legit. I have read and heard that many keep the majority of the money and very little goes to the cause they are actually supporting. It is so hard to know nowadays. If anyone can shed some light, please share.


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 12:44 AM by mnmcandiez
reply to post by CrankyPantsUK



Slavery and segregation are two entirely different concepts. Being segregated didn't force you to work for nothing and live in a shack on a plantation. You had control over your own body and actions. It has nothing to do with perception at all.


Discrimination and slavery are two vastly different states of being.
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reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 01:18 AM by mrspock
reply to post by Wirral Bagpuss



I agree in the early 90s i was in the Army i volentiered to go to Somalia to help distribute Water and food for the U.N.,But sadly my commander informed me that because i was married with kids i could not go ? it was only long after that i had found out that the situation there was critical and violent. i also found out that the U.N. was stopping troops from interviening. The U.N. dropped food and the people it was supposed to feed never got it,and militia would shoot unarmed civilians trying to get it ? VerySAD ,i watch on the news time and time again the U.N. stops troops from helping.Not always of course ! But i must admit with regaurd to Africa its a total Heartwrenching shame


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 02:29 AM by NadaCambia
Originally posted by Adyta
I look at the famine in Africa, and honestly, I'm done giving a damn. Why? I think we need to stop helping Africa because they REFUSE to help themselves. They sit in their mud huts all day and bang out a kid every nine months, and don't make any effort to learn anything that would help them. They just walk over to the Peace Corps tent 3 times a day and get their free food.

We've been sending them assistance constantly for decades. We send Peace Corps volunteers to teach them how to grow crops, build structures more advanced than dirt and water, dig wells, domesticate animals, etc. and they STILL cannot take care of themselves. The only conclusion is a complete unwillingness to learn.

We send UN troops to defend them against gangs and death squads, and they kill the UN troop for his iPod or his watch.

And you want ME to continue to care? You want me to feel bad for them? Look at every other nation on Earth, and you'll see it's only the African ones that have not advanced beyond the stone age... actually, they havn't yet even advanced into the stone age.

Africa had their chance. We tried to help, yet they refuse to put forth any effort to help themselves. Instead, they would rather starve to death on some of the most fertile farm land on the planet.

I say we just sit back and let natural selection run it's course.
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Actually you and your people as a collective are the reason Africa is primarily still in the state that it's in. But I guess it's easier to pretend you've been generously helping them for the last century than face up to the reality of your capitalist exploitation.




reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 02:44 AM by NadaCambia
Originally posted by Egyptia
reply to
post by Wirral Bagpuss



I have always been curious as to what organization is the most legit. I have read and heard that many keep the majority of the money and very little goes to the cause they are actually supporting. It is so hard to know nowadays. If anyone can shed some light, please share.


Most Charities do keep the money, but that's required to raise as much as they do.

So lets say Oxfam raises 700 million a year, and only 200 million gets through their 'system' (these figures are just hypotheticals), that's 500 million that hasn't gone to charity! but still 200 million that has...

Contrast that with charities that don't pay staff and don't have global operations - despite the fact they might be giving 90-100% of what they raise, what they raise never comes close to what's needed.

If someone knocks on your door trying to get you to sign up to a charity they'll more often than not be on a fixed-wage or commission, maybe $30 for every person they sign-up or something like that.

People hate that, and charities should be more than open about this so they don't come across as deceptive. Because when the Sun sets, despite a sizeable % of money gone to the running of the charity, a huge amount still gets through. An amount that wouldn't be achievable without having paid staff members, giant marketing budgets, high quality operations managers etc

Some individuals are on stupid wages though and really need to have a hard look at themselves. There's people making half a mil a year working for charities


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 02:45 AM by MasterGemini
reply to post by NadaCambia



Don't just attack capitalism as the Communist Chinese are in Africa rapping the land and resources in exactly the same manner.

Your liberal bias is showing that it doesn't know what its talking about.

Maybe you should throw more money at the problem because that fixes everything. Like their education systems.


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 03:39 AM by NadaCambia
Originally posted by MasterGemini
reply to
post by NadaCambia



Don't just attack capitalism as the Communist Chinese are in Africa rapping the land and resources in exactly the same manner.

Your liberal bias is showing that it doesn't know what its talking about.

Maybe you should throw more money at the problem because that fixes everything. Like their education systems.


The "Communist Chinese" are Capitalists. It's about time some of you people actually got beyond the front cover of a book and educated yourself some.

Just because they call themselves a Communist party doesn't make them so. In no way, shape or form is China a Communist naiton. China is Capitalism on steroids, they're a neo-mercantilist State.

Please explain to me how a) China's economy is Communist, b) China's government is Communist. And please, try and do so without mentioning the bloody CPC

And what would fix Africa is if invading forces such as America and China actually left them alone and stopped meddling with their markets and controlling their governments by proxy. But it's easier to blame Communism. Next you'll be pulling out the Radical Islam card


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 03:59 AM by byeluvolk
You do recall the movie “Blackhawk Down?” that is a true story. The US and many nations do indeed send aid to Africa. However the current warlord in charge takes this aid for himself, and his army, leaving the populace to starve. So the UN decided to do something about it, and a UN force went to Somalia to stop the warlord from hijacking the aid shipments. Well all that happened was a bunch of US military troops got shot, quite a few civilians got killed in the crossfire, and the world had one more reason to hate the warmongering US. Every time there is some civil liberty issue in a country the world cries for the UN and thus by default the US to step in and fix it. However, when this leads to a conflict with the locals those very same people cry about how the US is oppressing the world and they should mind their own business. Unfortunately it can’t be both ways. If you expect the US to somehow force a corrupt regime to give the aid that IS going to the country to the citizens, there will most likely be violence and then the very citizens the US is trying to protect get caught up in yet another armed conflict. This is nothing new to most African countries mind you. This is a constant state of affairs there. The only hope for that continent is for the people living there to want to be saved, as it is it is far easier to live the life of corruption and greed. Until they can contain the greed and vice in the countries, no amount of aid will ever work.


reply posted on 1-8-2011 @ 04:00 AM by kykweer
reply to post by Wirral Bagpuss



Quite simply, the greater part of Africa is run by totalitarian dictators, even the AU is headed by a tyrant. these leaders simply don't care for the less educated and desperate the people at ground level are the easier it is to play them like puppets and canon fodder.

The rest of the world simply can't afford to help them because for every dollar that goes to aid, 2 dollars go into the pockets of those governments. So its a losing battle.

Only way to save Africa is with a one world government whereby the "world police" can go and arrest those people, but yeah its sad to say that no one can do anything its pointless.
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