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Originally posted by ateuprto
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by babybunnies
China will not get involved in any war on a military basis.
Any action taken by China will be purely economic (crash the dollar) or cyber (attack US online capabilities)
US will be crippled before a shot is even fired.
Why do you think there will always be a 1 way attack?
People often forget that the SuperPower status has a meaning upto certain extent despite the economic turmoil.
The only reason I'm inclined to believe the man would be the fact that the U.S. economy is FAR more valuable to China than the amount of oil they receive from Iran. The other half of the argument revolves around the U.S. advanced warfighting capabilities when compared to China. If we're stopping short of a mainland invasion (which we would be), China is about 20 years and a whole lot of scrap metal away from wanting to/being able to mess with us in force-on-force conflict.
As others have mentioned, we have been getting advanced warning of an Israeli led attack on Iran for well over 5 years now. Most have come from "credible" sources. Due to Israel's constant defensive and offensive posture, I don't think you can point to a specific military build-up as solid evidence.
Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Kram09
Why post man?
Originally posted by Kram09
The armchair generals and psuedo-strategists are out in force tonight eh?
I believe this topic was already posted....and anyway I don't know how many times I've read a thread claiming Israel is going to attack Iran at such a point in the future.
Originally posted by Wookiep
Not that I think this will amount to much, but I'm surprised that I haven't seen this on ATS yet:
Iranian media: Iran downs U.S. 'Spy Drone'edit on 20-7-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hp1229
Originally posted by Kram09
The armchair generals and psuedo-strategists are out in force tonight eh?
I believe this topic was already posted....and anyway I don't know how many times I've read a thread claiming Israel is going to attack Iran at such a point in the future.
To be honest, I'm getting bored and not even taking the threads seriously anymore since I joined ATS. So many prophecies, theories, breaking news and OMG's only for me to go WTF?
Originally posted by Curio
Originally posted by nekomata111
Originally posted by Curio
I base this on a few facts. Fact 1: Israel can't live with a nuclear Iran - period. Fact 2: Israel can't do this alone, but the US population won't support another war without good reason. Fact 3: That's how Israel operates.
how can't Israel live with nuclear Iran, yet all other countries in middle east has to live with a nuclear Israel?
Israel existence will be a footnote in history books a few centuries from now, no smallish country surrounded by enemies lasted long, no matter the military power.
You answered your own question
Israel is surrounded by enemies - but they have nukes to keep them at bay. That's what creates the balance. As soon as one of their enemies develops nukes then the scales tip - especially as Iran will no doubt share the technology with other enemies. So Israel will never let that happen - or, as you say, they won't be there in the future.....in their mind, anyway.
Imagine living on hostile land, surrounded by enemies with spears and arrows. But you have a machine gun. You're safe until one of them gets their own gun.....then you're finished. Simple analogy, but essentially sums it up.
The Israelis may be seeking to draw the USA into a war with Iran, but the risk of a much larger war will be very real... Hopefully those in the Pentagon and US government will assess the risks and alert the Israelis that they are "ON THEIR OWN" before they do something stupid.
Originally posted by Jefferton
Finish the wars you started first, then you can have dessert
Originally posted by Jefferton
Finish the wars you started first, then you can have dessert