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Originally posted by moskva666
I don't know if there is any validity to this or not but I am personally sick and tired of war. People walk around living their daily lives in America, completely unaware or uncaring that across the globe people are running from bombs or holding their dead children.
Originally posted by EagleTalonZ
reply to post by camaro68ss
As for Israel striking the match that brings on WW3 - it sounds about right. I'm sick of Israel counting on the U.S. to bail them out of every mess they get in. Why are we supporting that mooch of a nation in the first place? Aside from religious reasons we have no business giving money to ANY nation. Israel can defend itself. If it writes a check it's ass can't cash, it should be their own fault. America should NOT get involved. Let them learn all about cause and effect. I say forget em!
Originally posted by SirMike
Is it me, or does it seem like every few months someone "credible" (which Baer is) predicts imminent war with Iran?
Originally posted by MrSpad
The one thing I love about ATS is the fantasy world that people build when it comes to war and conflict. Israel attacking Iran is a long shot and if it were to happen it would be a simple strike to damage key military facilities that are used for nuke building. How would Iran respond? Most likely they would complain and look for world sympathy. They can not touch Israel. Now lets say Iran is really lead by complete nut cases and that decide to attack US interests over an Israeli attack. They do not have the ablity to take out US military targets but they coud toss SCUD type missles at poplualtion centers in the Gulf States, Iraq and Turkey. This might kill some civilians if they get a good hit. Then what? They get crushed thats what. So unless they were nuts they will do nothing but play the victim. Russia and China are not even an option militarily. They do not have the ability to defend Iran nor do they really give a crap about Iran. In fact they know Iran supports terror groups in both Russia and China. They would complain and then go about doing buisness with the US. Sorry for the dose of reality I know it ruins all the WW3 talk.
Originally posted by SirMike
Sun Tzu aside and Russian "military advancements " aside, the Russians havent built new or maintanied what they have in over 20 years. Russian pilots dont get any time in the air, planes dont have spare parts, infantry doesnt go on manuevers and drills, ships rarely leave port. Nukes, for example, take alot of maintenace to keep in good reliable working order, forego that and you dont have a deterence.
I dont know if Sun Tzu said it or not, but my old CO told us the more you bleed in peace the less you bleed in war.
The Russian army is a gigantic paper tiger. Fantastical top secret super weapons dont win wars, well trained, well equiped, well disciplined soldiers do.
The Chinese have come along way, but they have no way to project outside their borders.edit on 19-7-2011 by SirMike because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Just more tactics to keep everybody nervous. If we all live without fear, then why would we spend all the cash on defense....These days you do not even have to go to war. You just let an "EX" defense official "leak" some crazy "news" and everyone panics.....Were all doomed
Just like the last time and the time before that.........
Originally posted by Castogere
Lets get er on!! Its time for America to come home and clean up its own back yard....if there ever was a justified war....it should be with Mexico for violation of US sovereign rights. Then once we roll through and clean up the cartels, Mexico would make a great 51st state, and a existing tax base.