posted on Jul, 27 2011 @ 03:43 AM
Originally posted by SirMike
Is it me, or does it seem like every few months someone "credible" (which Baer is) predicts imminent war with Iran?
Seems like it to me, too. Looks like 99% of this stuff is designed to scare people and throw us off. Why, I can remember a similar thread just in the
Originally posted by MrSpad
The one thing I love about ATS is the fantasy world that people build when it comes to war and conflict. Israel attacking Iran is a long shot and if
it were to happen it would be a simple strike to damage key military facilities that are used for nuke building. How would Iran respond? Most likely
they would complain and look for world sympathy. They can not touch Israel. Now lets say Iran is really lead by complete nut cases and that decide
to attack US interests over an Israeli attack. They do not have the ablity to take out US military targets but they coud toss SCUD type missles at
poplualtion centers in the Gulf States, Iraq and Turkey. This might kill some civilians if they get a good hit. Then what? They get crushed thats
what. So unless they were nuts they will do nothing but play the victim. Russia and China are not even an option militarily. They do not have the
ability to defend Iran nor do they really give a crap about Iran. In fact they know Iran supports terror groups in both Russia and China. They would
complain and then go about doing buisness with the US. Sorry for the dose of reality I know it ruins all the WW3 talk.
I'm tired of the fearmongering too.........Moscow may have it's crazies(but so do we!), but nobody would be foolish to start a nuclear attack against
However, though, I am concerned about Iran still.........btw, anyone remember Iran-Contra?
Originally posted by SirMike
Sun Tzu aside and Russian "military advancements " aside, the Russians havent built new or maintanied what they have in over 20 years. Russian pilots
dont get any time in the air, planes dont have spare parts, infantry doesnt go on manuevers and drills, ships rarely leave port. Nukes, for example,
take alot of maintenace to keep in good reliable working order, forego that and you dont have a deterence.
I dont know if Sun Tzu said it or not, but my old CO told us the more you bleed in peace the less you bleed in war.
The Russian army is a gigantic paper tiger. Fantastical top secret super weapons dont win wars, well trained, well equiped, well disciplined soldiers
The Chinese have come along way, but they have no way to project outside their borders.
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True. Still though, I do worry about terrorists getting ahold of stray Russian warheads, though. Just one larger bomb of say, 5 mt or so could
possibly kill almost everyone in Toronto, Detroit, New York, Chicago, Miami, Fresno, etc.!
Originally posted by liejunkie01
Just more tactics to keep everybody nervous. If we all live without fear, then why would we spend all the cash on defense....These days you do not
even have to go to war. You just let an "EX" defense official "leak" some crazy "news" and everyone panics.....Were all doomed
Just like the last time and the time before that.........
Originally posted by Castogere
Lets get er on!! Its time for America to come home and clean up its own back yard....if there ever was a justified war....it should be with Mexico for
violation of US sovereign rights. Then once we roll through and clean up the cartels, Mexico would make a great 51st state, and a existing tax base.
I do hope you're not serious about Mexico, because if you are, it's absolute bull#..........Mexico hasn't tried to invade the U.S. in well over a
century(apart from Pancho Villa's ragtag group of bandits), and that's a fact.
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